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2012 MLB Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Fin-Omenal, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    yeah I wont disagree, I am just saying it wouldnt shock me to see any of them win....I bet the odds are the longest on Pitt and Wash and they still have a good shot..
     
  2. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ugh pitchers, cant win wihtout them, but they are so risky....

     
  3. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    You know I don't get...why didn't they catch that injury the first time he was hurt? Why does it always seem like pitchers have issue. Then start rehab, then after a month of rehab, they feel discomfort, then the next day guys gotta get tommy john because a so and so injury. Makes no sense
     
  4. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I BELIEVE!!! :yes:
     
  5. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Something to consider for off-season moves as clubs try to earn compensation for a potential free agent:

    Of course the bigger risk is the player accepts the qualifying offer and takes the 1yr $13M+ offer!!!
     
  6. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Sometimes it creeps on you, sometimes it doesnt feel that bad, sometimes they arent 100% truthful (Pedoria)....is my guess bro...picture you are a pitcher, you feel a tinge but it isnt that bad, you throw 99, all it takes is one pitching movement that generates that 99MPH pitcher to ruin it, think about the torque you know? then bang torn ligs.....

    I injuried my shoulder last October, swinging an axe, at the time no big deal, did my normal routine, pain got bad about a month ago, went to the doc, had an MRI....torn labrum and I probably need surgery now....to this day it still doesnt hurt that bad at all....
     
  7. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Right, but like Feliz for instance. His arm was already hurt for a month+. But they obviously diagnosed it wrong. But realized it this time around. Seems like it happens like that everytime.
     
  8. Jt0323

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    what a game between the Angels and Rangers tonight. How did the Angles blow that one...wow
     
  9. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Right that much I agree definitely....samething with Pineda.....you wonder where they get these docs from sometimes....
     
  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Okay so BDH, what does this mean, so every time you offer arbitration IF he accepts, that is the payout? and obviously if they dont then they get the draft pick...


     
  11. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Exactly, if you offer the required minimum contract in an attempt to qualify for compensation, should it be turned down, the offer has to be at least $13M/yr. The risk to the team offering it, is the player accepts it....especially if it was really an attempt to earn draft compensation.

    A team should not offer $13M unless they are willing to have the player accept. These are basically 1 year deals...not multi year deals...although I would think the average would still need to be at $13M, just not 100% sure if multi year offers are handled this way, etc.

    The point is you can offer a less than $13M/yr but no draft compensation would be earned if turned down.
     
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  12. finyank13

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    Gotcha...this has Swisher all over it, if Soriano opts out....will be interesting for sure..
     
  13. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ...
     
  14. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Yeah, lots of players will go on waivers now its past the "non-waiver" trade deadline.....doesnt really mean anything - FO's use it to gauge interest, etc.

    FYI, Crawford was put on waivers yesterday too....again, ehhhh, no news for now.
     
  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ohh I didn't see that...yeah but nobody is going near that contract or even him for that matter...but with Lee it will be interesting cuz the ability is still there, they have to talk numbers...

     
  16. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    for anyone interested....

    Teams can still deal after the July 31st trade deadline passes. This explains how trading in August works:

    • Teams have to pass players through "revocable" waivers to trade them after the July 31st deadline.
    • Players acquired after August 31st can't play in the postseason.
    • Teams will often put most of their players on waivers to determine interest, since they don't have to give up every player who's claimed.
    • Unclaimed players can be traded to any club in August (or even September - but again past Aug, and no postseason play).
    • Teams don't have to trade players who are claimed. If they want they can simply hand the player and his salary over for nothing in return.
    • If a team places a player on waivers after he is claimed, but not traded, the team loses the right to pull its player back. In other words, the waivers are revocable at first, but not revocable on the 2nd attempt, etc.
    • Clubs have two days to deal claimed players, but they can only negotiate a trade with one team.
    • If only one team claims a player, he can only be dealt to that team.
    • If more than one team claims a player, he can only be traded to the claiming team in his league with the worst record.
    • If a player's only claimed by teams in the other league, he can only be dealt to the claiming team with the worst record.
    • Teams cannot pass players on the disabled list through waivers.

    Thanks to
    Cot's Baseball Contracts and this article by ESPN.com's Jayson Stark.
     
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  17. Ray Finkle

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    Can we just do everyone a favor and not post who gets put on waivers? Every player does, it's not news nor a big deal until a player actually switches teams. Hell, I just got put on waivers an hour ago (although I doubt I get claimed).
     
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  18. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    No.
     
  19. Jt0323

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    Breaking News: Ray Finkle has been traded to Jetsnation for a poster to be named later... More details to follow
     
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  20. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Should have traded him a few years ago when he still had value....:wink2:
     
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  21. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    These three post were great. Well done guys!
     
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  22. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Memo to Ryan Dempster......this isnt the NL Central anymore.....
     
  23. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    The latest odds to win the World Series have been updated by http://www.bovada.lv/, in light of the moves made prior to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline.

    Current vegas odds to win the World Series


    New York Yankees 19/4
    Texas Rangers 5/1
    Los Angeles Angels 15/2
    Washington Nationals 9/1
    Cincinnati Reds 10/1
    Detroit Tigers 10/1
    San Francisco Giants 12/1
    Atlanta Braves 14/1
    Los Angeles Dodgers 14/1
    Chicago White Sox 20/1
    St. Louis Cardinals 22/1
    Boston Red Sox 25/1
    Pittsburgh Pirates 25/1
    Tampa Bay Rays 25/1
    Oakland Athletics 35/1
    Arizona Diamondbacks 45/1
    Toronto Blue Jays 45/1
    Baltimore Orioles 55/1
    Cleveland Indians 75/1
    Philadelphia Phillies 75/1
    Miami Marlins 90/1
    New York Mets 100/1
    Milwaukee Brewers 225/1
    Minnesota Twins 500/1
    Seattle Mariners 500/1
    Kansas City Royals 600/1
    Chicago Cubs 750/1
    San Diego Padres 750/1
    Colorado Rockies 1000/1
    Houston Astros 1000/1
     
  24. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I put in a claim for you, unfortunately I have a strong record this season. Sorry.
     
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  25. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Haha just as long as I get paid.
     
  26. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I should drop a dollar on the Astros LOL even though it's probably impossible for them to even come within 10 games of the playoffs.

    I suck at reading odds but basically $100 on the Pirates would pay $2,500?

    LOL $100 on Houston would pay $100,000?
     
  27. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Actually to tell you the truth I have no clue what those odds mean either. I would *think* you're right but really have no idea.
     
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  28. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Someone should chime in, because I'd consider putting down $100 on Pitt and Oakland just due to their odds and the fact they have legit shots to make the postseason. Once you're in anyone can win.
     
  29. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Im actually thinking of putting $100 on TB and Pitt to win it all
     
  30. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Someone should pick two AL teams with decent payouts and someone else (me LOL) should pick two NL teams, and if either of us wins split the money.


    That way if our teams were to meet in the WS we both win. (Maybe overall winner gets 60 or 70%) plus it gives both people four chances.
     
  31. Ray Finkle

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    Really not bad ideas if you have the money to spare. Everyone knows anything can happen in the playoffs.
     
  32. BigDogsHunt

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    ^degenerates:tongue2:


    actual - yet perhaps less interesting to the above - news:


    The Athletics traded catcher Kurt Suzuki and cash considerations to the Nationals for catcher David Freitas, the teams announced. It sounds like the A's are picking up most of Suzuki's 2012 salary and a bit of next year's salary, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports (on Twitter).



    The Dodgers acquired Joe Blanton from the Phillies for a player to be named later or cash considerations, the Phillies announced.
     
  33. GreenMonster

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    You guys would be correct. I am here to answer all degenerate gambling questions.
     
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  34. Jt0323

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    When I left work at the Palms today, Yankees were 7/2 and have been for a while. I put 100 on them a couple of weeks ago at 6/1
     
  35. Ray Finkle

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    Anyone want to play a fun game with numbers?

    Player A (21 years old):
    153 PA
    128 AB
    9 R
    18 H
    1 HR
    9 RBI
    .141 BA
    .281 OBP
    .242 SLG
    .523 OPS
    51 OPS +

    Player B (22 years old):
    138 PA
    129 AB
    16 R
    40 H
    9 HR
    23 RBI
    .310 BA
    .348 OBP
    .550 SLG
    .898 OPS
    139 OPS +

    Any idea who the two players are?

    Player A is Anthony Rizzo in 2011. Player B is Anthony Rizzo in 2012.

    How about another one:

    Player C (19 years old):
    135 PA
    123 AB
    20 R
    27 H
    5 HR
    16 RBI
    4 SB
    .220 BA
    .281 OBP
    .390 SLG
    .672 OPS
    89 OPS +

    Player D (20 years old):
    396 PA
    350 AB
    86 R
    121 H
    19 HR
    58 RBI
    33 SB
    .346 BA
    .407 OBP
    .597 SLG
    1.004 OPS
    182 OPS +

    Any guesses on these players?

    Player C is Mike Trout in 2011. Player D is Mike Trout in 2012.

    Granted in both cases it's a small sample size but this is exactly why you don't write off a 19 or 21 year old prospects after less than 160 plate appearances. Not everyone hits from day one like Ryan Braun or Albert Pujols.

    Just thought it was an interesting look.

    EDIT: Here's a bonus player.

    Player E (21 years old)

    484 PA
    413 AB
    72 R
    92 H
    16 HR
    48 RBI
    36 SB
    .223 BA
    .330 OBP
    .416 SLG
    .746 OP
    103 OPS +

    Player E is Barry Bonds at 21 years old in 1986.
     
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  36. Anonymous

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    Wasn't it Padre who called Anthony Rizzo a bust?
     
  37. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    :yes:
     
  38. BigDogsHunt

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    Baseball Prospectus Playoff Odds..

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

    This page is currently grouped by division and sorted by Playoff Pct descending.
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    Playoff Pct
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    1 Day Delta
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    [TD] New York Yankees
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    [TD="class: ctr"].572[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]93.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]68.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]95.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2.7%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]98.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-1.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2[/TD]
    [TD] Tampa Bay Rays
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].510[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]83.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]78.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]16.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]17.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3[/TD]
    [TD] Boston Red Sox
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].537[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]82.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]79.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]10.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]12.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-10.7%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4[/TD]
    [TD] Baltimore Orioles
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].430[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]81.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]80.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]6.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]7.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4.8%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]5[/TD]
    [TD] Toronto Blue Jays
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].456[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]77.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]84.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]1.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-2.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    [TD] Rnk[/TD]
    [TD] American League Central[/TD]
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    Expected
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    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Win
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Loss
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    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Div Pct
    [/TD]
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    WC Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"] [​IMG]
    Playoff Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    1 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    7 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1[/TD]
    [TD] Chicago White Sox
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].553[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]90.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]71.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]65.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]22.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]88.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.8%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]7.5%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2[/TD]
    [TD] Detroit Tigers
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].547[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]88.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]73.5[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]34.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]44.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]78.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]22.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3[/TD]
    [TD] Cleveland Indians
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].471[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]74.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]87.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-6.4%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4[/TD]
    [TD] Kansas City Royals
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].416[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]67.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]94.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]5[/TD]
    [TD] Minnesota Twins
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].439[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]71.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]90.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
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    Div Pct
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    [TD="class: ctr"]
    WC Pct
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    [TD="class: ctr"] [​IMG]
    Playoff Pct
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    1 Day Delta
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    7 Day Delta
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    [TD="class: ctr"]1[/TD]
    [TD] Texas Rangers
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].588[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]94.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]67.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]79.8%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]19.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]98.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.6%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2[/TD]
    [TD] Los Angeles Angels
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].576[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]89.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]72.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]19.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]62.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]81.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.6%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3[/TD]
    [TD] Oakland Athletics
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].474[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]82.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]79.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]14.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]15.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-5.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-17.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4[/TD]
    [TD] Seattle Mariners
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].450[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]74.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]88.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: dkgrey"]
    [TD] Rnk[/TD]
    [TD] National League East[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Expected
    Win Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Win
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Loss
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Div Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    WC Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"] [​IMG]
    Playoff Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    1 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    7 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1[/TD]
    [TD] Washington Nationals
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].561[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]95.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]66.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]69.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]25.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]94.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-2.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2[/TD]
    [TD] Atlanta Braves
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].558[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]92.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]69.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]30.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]47.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]77.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-5.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3[/TD]
    [TD] New York Mets
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].515[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]81.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]80.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]1.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.7%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-1.2%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4[/TD]
    [TD] Miami Marlins
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].418[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]70.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]91.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]5[/TD]
    [TD] Philadelphia Phillies
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].502[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]75.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]86.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: dkgrey"]
    [TD] Rnk[/TD]
    [TD] National League Central[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Expected
    Win Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Win
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Loss
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Div Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    WC Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"] [​IMG]
    Playoff Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    1 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    7 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1[/TD]
    [TD] Cincinnati Reds
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].541[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]95.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]66.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]75.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]19.8%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]95.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-1.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2[/TD]
    [TD] St. Louis Cardinals
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].588[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]90.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]71.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]13.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]55.4%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]68.7%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]5.8%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]10.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3[/TD]
    [TD] Pittsburgh Pirates
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].514[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]90.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]71.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]11.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]44.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]55.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]11.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4[/TD]
    [TD] Milwaukee Brewers
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].520[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]77.2[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]84.8[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-0.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]5[/TD]
    [TD] Chicago Cubs
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].413[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]66.7[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]95.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]6[/TD]
    [TD] Houston Astros
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].366[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]55.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]107.0[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: dkgrey"]
    [TD] Rnk[/TD]
    [TD] National League West[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Expected
    Win Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Win
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Sim Loss
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    Div Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    WC Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"] [​IMG]
    Playoff Pct
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    1 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]
    7 Day Delta
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1[/TD]
    [TD] San Francisco Giants
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].536[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]87.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]74.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]51.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3.5%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]54.7%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2[/TD]
    [TD] Los Angeles Dodgers
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].520[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]86.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]75.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]34.1%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]2.2%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]36.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-3.7%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-13.7%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]3[/TD]
    [TD] Arizona Diamondbacks
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].536[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]83.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]78.4[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]14.7%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]1.6%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]16.3%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-6.9%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]-3.6%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]4[/TD]
    [TD] San Diego Padres
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].467[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]70.1[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]91.9[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: ctr"]5[/TD]
    [TD] Colorado Rockies
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"].429[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]62.6[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]99.3[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: tah4b"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD="class: ctr"]0.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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  39. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

    30,718
    5,415
    113
    Jan 6, 2010
    I was looking at Rizzo's number this year so far laughing to myself thinking how long it was going to take you to post something....hahahahha not long!!!!
     
  40. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

    13,500
    4,315
    113
    Dec 9, 2007
    Like I said before it's still a small sample with him but it was obvious he wasn't ready for the big leagues last year. Writing him off like that was just silly but hey the Padre GM did it too trading him away for an often injuried RPer in Andrew Cashner (who is good when healthy).

    I was actually curious myself to see how Rizzo has been doing because I really had no clue. Just thought it was interesting to compare his numbers and then another player who didn't light the world on fire with his first call up in Trout. That's the main problem with prospects we need to relax if a prospect comes out of the gate slow or even if he comes out red hot. But you can't write off a player that young after a handful of at bats, that's just silly. Likewise for someone like Bryan LaHair who had been in the minors until he's 27 then finally gets called up and has a good few weeks doesn't mean he's the next Albert Pujols either.
     
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