Dave Hyde - Is Tannehill's time sooner rather than later?

I'm giddy

 

Darlington has said as much for weeks on NFLN even though everyone keeps not paying attention. If he can't beat out an old injured QB or a journeyman, that would be pretty disappointing. Aaron Rodgers may have been ready, but regardless, it was Brett freaking Favre.

 

So far, I have enjoyed what I have been reading

 

I have confidence that our staff will handle this situation correctly and I'm excited to see how this all plays out. Can we finally have our

franchise guy? Man I hope so.

 

The problem is that he won't have a chance to face the combination of real game speed and defenses that are schemed against a rookie QB at any time before the regular season, so whatever "beating out" he does will be on artificial grounds.

He could very well "beat out" Garrard and Moore in camp and the preseason and still be the wrong choice at QB during the regular season if this team is trying to win games.

 

I think this 'new' situation says a lot more about Tannehill than the coaches or anyone else. Whether it's true or not, I'm sure he heard just like the rest of us that he was being placed on the back-burner, and the competition was 'really' between Moore and Garrard. He obviously didn't take that lying down. He took it upon himself to work his butt off, and go out and win the job. That says an awful lot about that guy. Things like that make me more and more confident that the Phins actually may have finally found... 'The Heir.'

I must say, I wasn't expecting Tannehill to actually compete for the starting spot. The only reason being that he merely started 19 college games at QB, and for that reason I tempered my expectations. I knew physically and mentally, he could do it. I just didn't expect him to have the maturity, the confidence, and the swagger right out of the gate.

Now... I still fully expect Garrard to win the starting job in the end. However, what I HOPE happens is... Tannehill kicks all their asses, and wins the job outright.

Go, Tanny!!

 

Take the training-wheels off, baby!

 

Keep it up!

 

^ Is that Bubbles from The Wire?

 

No, it's Morris Claiborne, duh.

 

The coaching staff would be a failure if it wasn't throwing those type of scenarios at him in practice going forward. Now obviously it won't be game speed or the same, but I don't think it's as big an issue as you're implying.

 

Not sure if serious.

 

I agree. There has never been a case that I know of, where a highly drafted QB was not played as a rookie and had it hurt his long term development or lead to him becoming a bust. While some highly drafted QBs play as rookies and do well, there are just as many cases of rookie QBs being thrown into the fire and have it basically ruin them for the long term. With Tannehill, I'd err on the side of caution and bring him along slowly, no matter how well he does in practices. JMO.

 

Uhm, yeah, 3 TC throwing sessions.

Heck, he is a HoFer already, why wait, 19 starts?

Shoot, he is Joe Montana and Drew Brees all rolled into one...seriously folks?

 

No-one in this thread has said anything even close to any of those things.

Anyway I remember a while back reading a study where they found starting vs not starting your first year had no impact on the long term success of a first round QB.

 

I would only be disappointed if he wasn't starting by mid-season. I'd love if he was our week 1 starter. part of it is how our new right side is performing. If they are up to speed and looking good in the preseason games, I'd be more likely to let Tannehill start. If they are lacking cohesion, then just hold off so Tannehill doesn't get killed.

 

This is where the coaches make or break their careers. They have to have the knowledge to know if he is ready or not and then make a decision. If they start Tanne, then they are staking their future on that decision. At some point if you like the coach and think he is the qb guy alot say he is, then you have to have some faith he wont start Tanne if he isnt ready to face a reg season defense.

 

That article just got me hyped a bit..

I just don't think this is a normal situation, the variables in play demand us to look at it from a different perspective, the guys talent level demands us to rethink what's going on here relative to his competition..Personally for me it has nothing to do with playing him now to get his bad reps out of the way..

It has everything to do with who gives us the best chance to win.

If I could paint a picture with my eyes on what stood out the most to me from RT, it was this hellbent attitude he had the moment he took the field, (to steal a line from Lebby) he basically pulled out his dong and waved it all over the place, and didn't give a sh&$ who was looking, it was the fact that he was worried about and working on ball placement, while his competition was working on getting the ball out on time, one of my favorite moments of him directing the 2nd team like they were privates in his platoon, was in 2 min offense, thigpen finds himself in the wrong position, RT grabs and throws his *** back into where he was supposed to be, two seconds later, he was pitching him the ball for a sweep left..Also the fact that the accuracy displayed was ridiculous, also that the velocity and trajectory is ideal, also, the mobility and ability on the run to improvise is off the charts..sorry. Had to get it all in that paragraph.

Sherman was right, he missed two early throws, but he also threw the ball really well..

IMO, if he doesn't get the start week one, it's because they are taking the approach that Rafs and Clean continue to point out, no matter how good he looks, you still take the slow approach. .

I believe that this dude would totally disagree with them on this subject though, cause he's surely not being bashful about wanting the job, and I think we all can agree, that's a reason to be very excited, competitive nature is there.

If that's what we wanna do, then the standard for the vet is to have a winning record at the bye week, or he's toast..

 

If the plan was to start him right away the articles would be:

Greg Cote: Tannehill should sit right away & Dave Hyde - Is Tannehill's time later rather than sooner?

Some QB's excel with time, some QB's excel with being thrown into the fire. None of us or the sportswriters know which group Tanny falls in.

I will say, has waiting ever killed a QB, because I think cases can be made that starting them too early has?

 

I'm always the optimist, but I'll have to agree with FinNasty, that even if he is ready, will the team around him be. That will be the biggest thing. Obviously if you have a legend playing in front of you (Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre) then you have that luxury of time. If the receivers look pretty good (which I honestly expect them to, as I really think it is a good group), and RT looks good throughout the preseason... then why wait?

Of course he will need to play lights out or very solid to keep the naysayers to keep from giving the "I told you so's", but if Sherman and Philbin, and Ireland all believe he is ready, I say why not. Not to mention that RT seems confident enough to come back from a bad performance, which Henne never really did.

 

I agree with you two. I would love for him to start (as we've all said) and this article gives me hope for a decent season. However, I just hope if/when he's ready, that our team is ready too. I'd hate to see him have no one to throw too and just get hit.

 

My hopes. They're up.

 

We're excited, not anointing him as a HOF QB...smh

 

Much of that talk may have something to do with Irelands posturing in the contract negotiations.

 

Personally, I'd ride his current hunger out a little longer b/c that's probably his most powerful weapon right now.
Besides, I wouldn't mind seeing a year (or even half a year) of him truly developing his strengths and fine-tuning his craft rather than weekly preparing for the upcoming opponent.

 

I think he needs eased into it, now you guys or getting me confused suggesting he might be ready. Is our O line ready to keep him from getting hurt while he figures out NFL game speed? Mentaly and Physically?

 

He sounds like he is dead in the middle of the competition to be the starting QB. If by the end of TC its as close as being reported, then he should start.

But its hard for me to get excited when he hasn't even put pads on. Once he has live rushers coming at him, it will be another test for him. Then after that test, he'll be tested with an environment that isn't so controlled. There will be a number of tests. So far it appears he's passed the test of looking good in shorts.

I have 0 expectations. I'm just going to take it as it comes.

 

There is no way to prepare for game speed other than playing in games. I'm not sure exactly what some people think sitting on the bench does. Obviously it has benefits, the major one being that you have a full season to digest the playbook, learn the scheme and terminology and so forth. That is the advantage Tannehill needs much less than other young QB's.

The other obviously is working on mechanics and fine tuning your game. Every young player needs this. At the end of the day you can either adjust to the speed of the game or you can't. If he is the best man he should start.

 

Yeah, thats what I was getting it mainly. I think thats probably the toughest part of being a QB in the NFL today - maintaining your eye level when live rushers are coming at you. With the proliferation of spread offenses you put a lot more pressure on the QB to essentially have his eyes in multiple places.

 

Just a joke. ^^


Agree, it sounds like stating the obvious.... but is it me or do NFL teams not always recognize it?

 

This has me even more excited to be able to see our week 2 preseason game against carolina in person. Should see a heavy dose of TanneTHRILL on the field!!!

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