Dolphins trade up, 4th round... Lamar Miller, RB Miami.

Miller was talked about as a late first round or early second round draft pick after the college football season ended. Because of a concern regarding his knees and a shoulder, he dropped considerably in the draft.
If his knees and or shoulder turn out to be a problem once he gets into the NFL, this pick may end up being a bust. Yet if Miller can overcome these concerns about his knees and shoulder, this may be the steal of the entire draft.

While I agree that the Dolphins still need a WR in this draft. I can find absolutely no fault in them drafting a potential game breaker with their fourth round selection. Miller runs the 40 in 4.3 and he is a threat to take it all the way, every time he has the ball in his hands. I was not a fan of the Daniel Thomas pick last year but I love this pick. Giving up two sixth round picks and trading spots in the fourth round is a bargain, as far as I am concerned.

 

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Wr's remains to be seen, they may like Marlon Moore/Lil Beast Wallace more then we know.

 

I remember a few cousins out in SF that were furious along with some others with Bill Walsh and that regimie shortly after they took over, and NE fans not being very happy with BB for a while with his choices..we just never know.

 

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Thomas hurt last year. Bush stayed healthy first time in career. picture Slaton as starter. Nuh said. Great pick. Great Value. Miami drafting great. Get Marvin Jones in 5th and we are golden

 

We as fans or we as in the FO?

 

What exactly do you expect out of this team right now? relistically? a superbowl? playoffs? its new systems coaches and there will be a draft next April (barring the Myians being right) its a rebuild retooling re-whatever you wanna call it, flat out simply we need to have some patience.. i dont agree with every pick either but i'll see how they play this year and form my opinion from what they do on the field not in the draft.

Top 10? Maybe,,top 15 for sure.

 

Wait.....why do you all assume Bush is gone. Think of the match up problems...both of these guys on the field present....I mean...Imagine...a 2 TE set with both of these guys in the back field.....with the TEs we now have...you could go single back...3 WRs....it gives a ton of flexibility....

this is about...creating mismatches on the field

 

Careful with "you all" lol. I see the potential..yes i dooooo.

 

Good point.

And if our new RT plays as advertised we wont have to leave Bush (Fasano, etc) in for pass pro so he just might be up there close to 90.

 

I would not be surprised if the Dolphins draft in the top ten again next year. Tannehill is obviously still a project and I don't see him starting until 2013. I think the defense will take a step back next year with Nolan no longer the DC. I felt going into this draft that the Dolphins were at least two drafts away from being able to fill most of the holes on this team.

While I certainly feel they have upgraded the roster with their selections so far. I still feel they are going to have to find a top WR, safety, LB and another pass rusher before they can be a legitimate playoff contender. I don't see them being able to fill those positions in this years draft, but they will be nearly fifty million dollars under the cap after next season and if they once again have a top ten pick, they should certainly be able to fill most of their needs at that time.

I have always felt that the Dolphins are looking to 2013 as the year they will begin to turn the corner as a team. Unfortunately we will probably have to watch them lose more than they win next season, but at least it finally appears they are starting to draft players which can help when this team finally becomes a legitimate contender in a few years.

 

Well, the Niners have Jacobs, Gore, Hunter, Dixon, and LaMichael James. Guess WR is not our focus just yet.

 

I may be misunderstanding something here but;
Didn't we have two picks in the 4th round? We only picked once, so must have given up a 4th too.

 

As for WR, maybe our brass just doesn't see anyone who can come in and beat out who we have. No sense taking a player at a "need" position who won't even make the team.

 

We only had one 4th.

 

We only had ONE pick in the fourth round. We had two picks in the third round, which we used.

 

Bush will probably line up as a receiver a fair amount of the time.

Every year around this time fans of all teams start to obsess about one position their team hasn't managed to fill, and elevate the remaining possible draftees at that position into can't miss starters that their team has to take or the draft and the entire offseason is a failure.

We aren't going to have a big name receiver this year, yes hopefully we add some more talent to the position but what matters most in rounds 4-7 is finding players with talent regardless of where they happen to play. Miller's talent would appear to be a pretty rare find this far into the draft.

 

Hmm that makes sense. The NFL draft tracker had us with consecutive picks at 8 and 9 in the forth minutes before the draft started. My mistake. I feel much better about the pick now lol

 

I suspect with this selection we will see a lot of Engew, Reggie and Clay split out wide. This gives us a lot of options with our backs and TEs. I really like this pick. We need Better #1 and #2 WRs, I agree. But I dont expect championship this season. Rome wasnt built in one day.

 

Considering the jests invested a higher pick on that scrub from USC that fumbles all the time and can't get on the field I like the pick in comparison.

 

Also if there really was something to Sherman's 'hidden talent' comment, which may just have been something to say in an interview, then our actions since suggest it's probably aimed at the receivers we still have on the roster. They may well think more of Hartline than most of the fan base does.

 

Get as many good players as you can and ask questions later .

From what I can tell the plan was to get a QB and shore up the OL. Then a DE as a compliment/replacement/hold out insurance for Cam Wake. Egnew is the seam threat that Philbin talks so much about. Not sure if Miller was a part of the plan or BPA but he's kind of a mix between Bush, who's in his contract year, and Thomas, who was out for several games and is still unproven. Most people had Miller going in the 2nd round so I don't have a problem with it.

Obviously we have some WR issues but we have several non WRs who are dependable targets and we may just have to use the Harbaugh-San Fran model from 2011 until Ireland can bring in more reinforcements next season. Cant fix it all in one year.

 

I see that thought process continuing. You are not filling needs at rounds 5-7. Now you just need players who have a chance to make the team - regardless of position.

 

what Ireland is showing us is that he does in fact like playmakers ...

Gates / Clay last year

Egnew / Miller this year ... we'll add another WR along the way as well ...

So far, the 'positions' have been predictable ... just not the players ... guess they fell in love at the Senior Bowl and UM pro day ... not so much on the private workouts thus far.

 

That should be obvious as they're prioritizing extending him.

 

Thats your conclusion, par for the course as usual !
Did you hear ? I have concluded that the skins just gave up on RG3 because they drafted Cousins in the 4th !!! Surely there cant be two !

 

if another person says Greenbay doesn't value a #1 wr I'm going to break something all there starting wrs and kr are 2nd round draft picks

 

Nice job getting the best offensive weapon available....

gotta love the ..... " the experts keep doing something other than what i think is best, they are clueless " mindset. You dont know jack. We are young and talented at WR. We just drafted Egnew, But oh wait, he's labeled a TE so all the thickheads assume we arent addressing the need for a go to target ! HAHA!

Also I think we're going to jump on Cody Pearcy....

Awesome draft so far, the Vernon pick is goin to have to grow on me tho, hopefully like the hartline and clay picks did.

 

And.....why is everyone forgetting about Gates?

Isnt it possible.....they have him as a better player...then some on here seem to think

 

Don't forget that they drafted a TE...New England showed that TE's can do just as much if not more than WR's in the passing game. I'd expect us to do a lot of short passes to Bush and Miller with Thomas trying to pound the ball. We'll see. I like the pick because they got amazing value rather than a reach on a WR.

 

They don't value a # 1. Green Bay value WR that they can interchange. With a good QB you don't need a #1. Rodgers and Brady do this well. Just have to have dependable guys who can catch the ball. That's all you need. Hartline fits that mold.

 

I stand corrected. I had read reports he ran a 4.3 at the combine, but I just checked the combine results again and you are correct, he only ran a 4.4. Of course this was the fastest time run by any running back who attended the 2012 combine. I know that he was timed below 4.4 while at the University of Miami.

Yes it makes sense that they would trade up for a player like Miller, if they felt he was the better pick than any of the WR's left on the board. The reality is that the Dolphins will probably not be able to draft a top WR until at least 2013 and if that is the case, I am fine with it. They have many holes to fill on the roster and there was no way they were going to be able to fill all those holes in this one draft.

As I stated earlier, I don't see this team contending until at least 2103. So the Dolphins will have one more draft and millions of dollars in cap money in 2013 to fill the #1 WR position and the various other holes still on the roster.

 

I think it was at least as much a product of the system as an inability of Hartline and Bess to do it. Matt Moore was top 5 in the league in air yard %. He let the receivers do the work before he got it to them as opposed to letting them do it after the catch. Both styles can work, as I think Moore showed once he got comfortable. And obviously the more west coast style works since Rodger and Brady run highly productive offenses. When it comes to the receiver I think it's mostly about creating space and getting open as opposed to being really fast and breaking tackles. Though I do share some concern since Bess and Hartline just haven't done it yet.

 

Thomas if anything fits the new offensive scheme better. He comes from a zone oriented scheme and we are moving towards one. But he needs to improve, and you can't really so much count on him. Bush is also in a contract year, and there's a degree of uncertainty with him still

 

None of those guys are the player that Lamar Miller is, though.

Bush was great last year, but this was the first year he stayed healthy (save for the final game). Being on grass definitely helped. But I don't feel we can simply assume he'll be healthy again just yet. Plus he's in a contract year.

Daniel Thomas was hurt as a rookie, but he also wasn't overly impressive.

We're certainly not bare at that position, but we could get in trouble very easily.

With all that in mind, I like the Miller pick. Granted, he was banged up in college. But he's a great runner who can also return kicks (no more Bess or Gates!). Miller could very well be our starter next year. I don't think Bush is going anywhere this year, but he could very well play himself into a bigger contract.

 

very well said i am thinking we may be going to make a trade but who or how I'm not sure.