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round 1-3 grades

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by bran, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. bran

    bran Senior Member

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  2. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    If it were me, I'd probably go...

    Tannehill - A
    Martin - A
    Vernon - C+
    Egnew - B

    Overall - B+
     
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  3. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    THIS YEAR
    Tannehill - F
    Martin - B
    Vernon - D
    Egnew - C+
    Overall - C-

    NEXT YEAR
    Tannehill - B
    Martin - B
    Vernon - C+
    Egnew - B
    Overall - B
     
  4. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I'm not going to put a grade until after I see what they can do but I'm really not excited about the Vernon pick.
     
  5. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Tannehill- A
    Martin - A
    Vernon - B-
    Egnew - B

    B+

    Vernon is the only one that concerns me. However, I think he's a lot more athletic than people are giving him credit. If he can reproduce those games where his motor does not stop, we'll be in business. I feel good about guys like Wake and Dansby teaching him as well.

    Martin should be a solid contributor from Day 1 and Egnew not too much further behind.

    Tannehill at 8 doesn't bother me but I'd prefer to sit him for as long as needed since we're fully-invested.
     
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  6. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    basically what i would give right now i would give egnew a B+ though
     
  7. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I don't like that they gave Egnew a D because of Clay. Clay is an H back, and a different type of player. The grade should be about whether Egnew will be a player for us or not. He filled one of many needs.


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  8. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Couldn't be mad at that. I think his potential for us is exactly what we've wanting on for a long time. might take him a little while to get there though.
     
  9. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Based strictly on value relative to the board:

    Tannehill A-
    Martin A
    Vernon C-
    Egnew B-

    Overall B
     
  10. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'm sitting here drinking a couple beers reflecting. Love our draft. A++++
     
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  11. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Vernon is the kind of guy that makes you wish the NFL had a D league.
     
  12. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    yeah i agree thats why i miss nfl europe they need something like that for players like vernon and wake who could need more developement.
     
  13. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, sort of thought we'd take Vernon, just thought coming off of the knee issue he'd slide.

    Not in love with the Martin pick, imho we have waaaaaaaaay over invested in the offensive line as it is, adding a second rd pick to it is sort of bad GMing imo

    Literally, every player on our OL will have been a high draft choice, good teams managed to find OL talent without investing that heavily in the OL
     
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  14. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Martin has been our best pick. Solid value and fits a need. Can play LT if Jake ever goes down.
     
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  15. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    So who are our projected RG and LG? Incognito at LG?
     
  16. ScottishFin

    ScottishFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just woke up . pretty happy with all the selections
     
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  17. Die_Nasty

    Die_Nasty Well-Known Member

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    I really like our draft. We targeted needs and I think each pick had value where we selected them. I won't give a grade till after we see them on the field, but I'm extremely excited.

    Watch this and tell me you don't like Martin, I absolutely love how confident and intelligent he comes across. [video]http://www.miamidolphins.com/media/videos/Jonathan-Martin-Speaks-With-The-Finsiders/33ce1b51-56fa-4392-9947-2f9deefcaf44[/video]
     
  18. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    one thing we can say is that each of the positions drafted were targeted.

    the only question really is Vernon in RD #3 ... but like Tannehill - if he turns out to be a stud in 2 years, no one will complain then. Right now today - eh ... it 'does' appear that only 1 of our 1st four picks will line up and start day 1 - Martin. In the grand scheme of things ... that just won't and shouldn't 'grade' very well. 2 years from now - it could mean something totally different.

    expect WR (McNutt/Streeter), CB (Steed/Bethel), TB (Cadet/Rainey/Miller); but a name such as Cam Johnson (DE) might be hard to pass up in RD 4. As are there several 'Day 2' OL (T/G) still on the board as well.
     
  19. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I'm driving the Brandon Boykin bus for round 4 now. Too talented to pass up.
     
  20. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Disagree Bro, hmm...John Jerry ring any bells?
     
  21. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    This exactly. Vernon was the only one I wasn't extremely happy with. Not that I think he was a bad pick, but he wasn't as good as the other 3.
     
  22. FanMarino

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    Ive heard Egnew is the 4th best rated TE in the Draft. Thats not a D in my book. Dumb ranking IMO. Plus hes a player we need!
     
  23. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Tannehill - C+
    Martin - B+
    Vernon - C-
    Egnew - A-

    Overall - C+

    Obviously any player can turn out to be good, but Vernon's spot should have went towards a WR in my humble opinion.

    Also can't give this particular QB selection a high grade simply because I think he's a project that didn't deserve to go at #8. Doesn't mean I don't have high hopes for him, but if I was drafting I woulda skipped QB this year simply because it seems like a weak class outside of Luck, and maybe RG3. Obviously as a Miami fan I hope we can develop Tannehill and he will turn out to be great.
     
  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Vernon has a knee issue? Can you be more specific? I've not seen any injury problems at all associated with this player.
     
  25. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Martin and Jerry are not similar players.
     
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  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Some analysts rank him 3rd TE. The one in my signature block does and also ranks him as the best hands among this crop of TEs.
     
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  27. jw3102

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    Grades at this time mean absolutely nothing. You really can't judge a draft class until you see how these players adjust to playing in the NFL. All I know is that this draft class better make a bigger immediate impact than the last four draft classes with Ireland as the teams GM, or this may be the last time he in conducting a draft for the Dolphins.
     
  28. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    No offense to you Padre but I hate when people do this.

    They are different players with different abilities and different mindsets. It's pointless to compare like that.
     
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  29. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    He's not just coming off a knee issue. He was injured a bit earlier in his career but this year the games he missed were suspension due to improper benefits.
     
  30. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    From what I've seen, the issue a lot of people have with the pick is the lack of production on the field the last 2 years, not his athleticism.

    One of those high upside/high risk picks.
     
  31. texanphinatic

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    Egnew is the kind of physical freak that might be a beast in this league. Finley/Graham type of player maybe. I am excited we finally took a guy at the TE spot with that kind of ability.

    Martin himself I like, but I generally agree with Padre. So much invested in that line, it is kind of hard to swallow. We really lack difference makers at a number of spots because of it.

    Vernon ... eh. I don't know enough about him to comment but it doesn't really excite me.

    Tannehill, hopefully we have found our QB for the future!
     
  32. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Well at least this time the reason were doing OL is because were changing schemes. We at least don't have guys beyond Incognito who got larger contracts but wouldn't fit the new zone blocking scheme and their preferences for OL in the 295-320lbs and athletic.
     
  33. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    As a Cane fan I'll say Vernon has the ability to be our best or worst pick so far. I'm really not sure on him. He definitely has all the tools, it's whether or not he can develop them.
     
  34. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Overall, I'd give the Phins a solid B+ right now. I think we addressed areas of need with talented players who weren't reaches. I would rather have had a WR or two instead of Vernon or Agnew but I will give Philbin the benefit of the doubt for now.
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Exactly!!! I totally agree.
     
  36. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    just for fun & it's not over yet

    Tannehill - A+
    Martin - A-
    Vernon - A-
    Egnew - A-

    Overall - A-
     

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