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Taylor-Parcells not talking bother you?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ATVZ400, May 19, 2008.

  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    LINK
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/
     
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  2. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    IMO, Ricky has been more straight forward with Parcells. Example, hes only going to play for another 2 years and wants to do it in MIA. JT has been "dancing" around questions for too long.
     
  3. jason8er

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    Parcells' 11th QB commandment was "Thou shall not be a celebrity!" He HATES what JT is doing, but will love him again when the pads go on. :up:
     
  4. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    BP is all about football 1st, all other bull**** 2nd. All JT has been reported talking about (maybe thinking about) lately is acting/dancing. Of course BP is going to have an issue with a situation like that.
     
  5. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Parcells is not a very forgiving man. Taylor better be in the shape of his life come training camp or Parcells might well fire him on the spot. The way things are going, I expect an ugly ending. This has "power struggle" written all over it and Parcells isn't going to lose it. I don't think that Taylor will be traded and I don't he'll play for us this year. I firmly believe he's going to be cut as soon as he provides Parcells with a good enough excuse - such as not performing stellar in training camp because he missed the conditioning program.
     
  6. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No he's not the coach. JT is talking to the coach. Bill is ownership, it doesn't matter if they don't say two words to each other all year. This is nothing going on, I want to sell papers, so lets over hype something stuff.
     
  7. The Rev

    The Rev Totus Tuus Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box Club Member

    Thanks for the correct link, brother. :hi5:
     
  8. DOLFANMIKE

    DOLFANMIKE FOOTBALL COACH 32 YEARS Luxury Box

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    Well, we dont know what is going on...that's for sure. However, if the staff told the players they expected them all to particpate in the off season program, and JT or someone else made decisions to do something else, then my guess is the staff would not be happy with that person. Maybe that's where all this is coming from.

    The staff doesn't work for JT, they are his superiors, and the responsibility is his to be subordinate to them and their plan for the team.

    I like Jason Taylor, but being a coach myself with an off season program to run I've been down this path myself on the staff end. The bottom line is they are trying to build a winner and they are going to do what they have to in order to get us there.
     
  9. PhinsRock

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    1. JT definitely WILL be in the shape of his life, my wife is a professional dancer and trust me, JT is in better shape now than ever. JT even said it himself he is in better shape now than he was when he won DPOTY.
    2. BP is upper management, there is NO need for BP and JT to talk. all JT needs to do is get his butt into camp ASAP.
    3. Once JT does get into camp, he and Parcells will very likely become best of friends, it is Parcells nature to develop close relationships with his best players. I see no reason for that not to happen with JT when he gets back into playing/practicing football.
    4. Man I am so sick of this topic, I can't wait till JT gets done with DWTS and starts getting into strength conditioning at Davie.
    5. Thanks for the thread, nothing else to talk about much this time of the year. :lol:
     
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  10. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    Two problems with that.

    1. Taylor signed the dancing with the stars contract and made the committment before this staff was in place. It's not like they said not to and JT did the opposite, instead they were never in a position to be consulted.

    2. The staff (i.e. Sparano who runs the workouts, training sessions, and the depth chart) has no problem with JT dancing. In fact Sparano has given his blessing.

    The ones who have the problem are Ireland and Parcells, and in my opinion they should focus more on the personnel moves and acquiring talent then worrying about Jason's dancing.
     
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  11. alen1

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    Honestly, I could care less if they are talking or not. You would like your players to have a good bond with all members of the organization but if not, so be it. What seems to be forgotten in all of this is that Tony Sparano is the HC, not BP. As long as JT is communicating with the defensive coaches/Sparano and is producing, I am fine with it. I know he and Sparano have been talking, texting each other according to Sparano himself, thats all I need to hear. I am glad Parcells is here and he is making these moves but hes not the HC this time, its Sparano.
     
  12. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Exactly, nice post.
     
  13. Boik14

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    I dont care that they arent talking. I do care that JT is not with his team at OTA's. Those are voluntary in name only.

    And for the record there is a massive difference between being in shape and being in football shape. Its a massive difference. Dance shape is more cardio whereas football shape would be more power and agility related.
     
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  14. DOLFANMIKE

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    These are both good points, and show how entangled and complex all of this can be. However, his first contract was with the Miami Dolphins. His first Committment is with the Dolphins, and his big paycheck comes with the Dolphins. Even if the situation changed in Miami expectation wise, that happens all the time in most fields.

    If the brass simply can't handle him being gone, they should move him and be done with it.
     
  15. finsincebirth

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    Yes he was under contract with the dolphins and his priority is to them, but this is his offseason. Normally he would be playing golf and smoking cigars, instead he's dancing.
     
  16. Straz

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    I didn't like how Taylor said on ESPN this morning that he would rather be thought of by people by his acting in ten years, instead of football.
     
  17. ToMaHaWk

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    I truly believe that this situation has been totally blown out of proportion and it's bothering me that Taylor-Parcells not talking is bothering people...
     
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  18. emocomputerjock

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    Oh, it's bothering me, but only because it's the only Dolphins news going on right now. JT has given over a decade to the Dolphins and gutted through times when we had some of the worst front office personnel in the league. I don't care what he does during the offseason. I don't care what Parcells thinks of the situation either. I'm just sick of all of the faux drama.
     
  19. THCMAN

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    I haven't read one single quote from either Parcells or Ireland talking about them having a problem with JT. I challenge anyone to produce one because none exist so far...

    JT is whining to the media because he wants to get traded. Parcells has publicly stated that he wants to keep JT a number of times. JT is the one who is trying to negotiate through the media. He doesn't hold the cards, he is signed and under contract. He should know better after watching Chad Johnson publicly make a fool of himself for the past few months..
     
  20. alen1

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    I believe there was an instance when Jason walked in to the film room and BP gave him the cold shoulder.
     
  21. THCMAN

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    I read that, but I'm sure you know the only reason any of us know that happened is because JT told a reporter about it...
     
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  22. finsincebirth

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    Granted it's not a direct quote from either source, but we aren't making stuff up. And this isn't a trade me ploy by JT, because he hasn't requsted a trade in all this. He's only stated his displeasure at being ingored by Parcells. Besides, it's not like Parcells is innocent in this whole game anyway. Because he's been sending mixed signals throught this whole thing.
     
  23. DOLFANMIKE

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    What has Parcells done to send signals on JT that is different than how he's treated any other player? The only thing he or Ireland did that I can think of is comment on whether or not they listened to trade offers. What am I missing? It seems like JT is making all the noise.
     
  24. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    True.
     
  25. rafael

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    The only part that bothers me is that BP giving somebody the silent treatment sounds more like something a pissed off girlfriend does than something a great leader does.
     
  26. rafael

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    I haven't seen a single quote from JT about Parcells giving him the silent treatment. All I've read is articles citing people close to JT. Has anybody ever seen any complaint from JT regarding this?
     
  27. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I haven't seen JT personally say it, just the sources you stated.
     
  28. finsincebirth

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    He takes offers for JT and shops him around like an old pair of shoes, and then claims JT will be a dolphin until he retires. But if you believe Parcells then I have a timeshare to sell you.
     
  29. jdang307

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    JT didn't tell any reporter about it. He hasn't said much about it publically. It was "sources" that told reporters about it. And really it started with Salguero.

    If I am wrongm], I'll admit it. But find a quote from JT discussing this.
     
  30. ToMaHaWk

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    Well after watching the excerpt from the Sunday Conversation on Sportscenter, JT hinted at what happened because he said he had only seen/met with Parcells for "30 seconds" and that seems to reinforce what the reports are saying. I still think it's way overblown though because it's the only news that's coming out of the Dolphins that's worthwhile, or any team for that matter.
     
  31. THCMAN

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    Didn't Salguero come out and say he spoke with JT at the start of that article?

    Regardless, if JT doesn't tell anyone no one would be talking about it because there were only two people in the room.

    Can you imagine Phill Simms telling reporters everytime the Tuna was abrasive with him? :pointlol:

    JT needs to get his priorities in order. The Tuna is never going to be nice to him, crying to the media about it will only make everything worse. Football is a man's game.
     
  32. Lee2000

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    What bothers me is that this is an issue to start with. While I am not a big Jimmy Johnson supporter, I agree with his answer regarding Taylor and the whole dancing issue. At this stage of his career I have no issue with it. It takes a lot of skill to perform those dances and he gave it his best shot. I didn't watch because I was not interested, but a man can do what he wants, regardless of the opinions of others. We really must be 1-15, because crap like this just floats to the top.

    Lee2000
     
  33. GRT8

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    what you have to understand is Taylor is getting the message that Parcells isn't going to afford him any special treatment and is less than impressed that he isn't at the facility. So be it, Parcells plays head games and this is nothing new. Don't make to much out of it.
     

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