Nah she's looking for attention, clear as day. I'm going to accuse her of it at some point, should be funny. It's easy getting under her skin though. She is an ice cold volcano under a cute 5-1 frame.
The person who cares the least has the control..... and you obviously care the least, so hopefully you fixed the problem.
This is on a completely different note: - Guys I think this girl is trying to get me into a harassment suit.
Beat her to the punch. Go to HR, get your complaint on the record. She is the boss and should know. On a side note, most women are crazy, so be careful out there buddy. Good luck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Stick it in her butt then complain to HR that she threatened your job if you didnt. Its one of those win/win deals if you play it right
This is what happens when you work with women... Except in the workplace you can't just freeze her out. You see her everyday and she's your boss. Oh dear...
If you think she's the conniving ***** type then do what Laces said, beat her to the punch...... or at least get something on her and blackmail her. if it's one of those things where it's you or her, gotta choose you, right? A lot of people would be like, "Oh, but you shouldn't stoop to her level, blah blah blah". Screw that. As soon as she decides to open her mouth you're screwed.
you don't run into that problem when they're wearing an apron. Who are they gonna complain to? The oven?
Freeze out? You can maintain your professionalism at all times and DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!!!! Stay on point, stick to the facts and make sure you have witnesses. That way when you go to HR, you put their ducks in a row for them. One more thing, when you do go to HR, emphasize that all the unwanted attention made you uncomfortable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
She is HR... I think she's been doing exactly as you've said as all her flirtation whatever you want to call it can't be documented. I will do the last one, no question. There's something on her mind. 24/7 she's dropping sexist (feminist) bombs and so are quite a few women on the floor. I ignore it, but I think they're trying to get a rile out of me (maybe for fun, you don't know).
While you are right, flirtatious cant really be documented, but they can be witnessed by a 3rd party. And that 3rd party can lodge a complaint. Sexual harassment isn't limited to the participating parties in many states, and even witnesses can make a complaint if it makes them uncomfortable. Document the interactions where she is being sexist, do not use exact words, as it is difficult to prove. It blows my mind that a member of HR would be dumb enough to put the company in an actionable position when their job is to avoid situations like that. Just remember, even if she is HR, everyone has a boss. Here are some helpful guides http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/fs-sex.cfm http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sexual_harassment.cfm Good luck man....I hope that it doesn't come to needing a lawyer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
women win millions in lawsuits when men create a "hostile work environment". Get advice from an attorney if you know one. If not, go to whomever has the most to lose if faced with such a lawsuit. Tell them you like working for them but Miss X is creating a hostile work environment by doing such and such. Tell them you've addressed her regarding the problem. Say that you thought addressing the problem would solve it b/c, as an HR person, you thought she'd be familiar with employee's rights established under California Labor & Employment law such and such (look up the specific law itself or call a Labor Law attorney's office and ask them). However, addressing the problem has left me more fearful of retaliation than it has the situation being resolved. Then say "Like I said, I like working here and the last thing I want to see is the company affected by the poor actions of one employee, but if comes down to either my rights as an employee or the company that I enjoy working for, I'll begrudgingly choose my rights." But first I'd definitely try to get a witness who would support you, especially if Cali is a no fault state.
Before you do the above, call the EEOC and formalize a complaint. If that means making an appointment at your local EEOC office, then make one. Get your ducks in a row, and this is the first one. It also establishes a nice timeline so that if you're fired they can't really call you out for retaliation as an attempt to discredit you. The 2nd duck is getting someone who would have your back and reaffirm your accusations if contacted by the EEOC. I'd tell you the next duck is getting an attorney, but I think this type of thing might have to go through the EEOC before you can privately sue. IIRC they'll objectively do some half assed digging to determine whether or not there's enough grounds for wrong doing to sue on your behalf. If they rule there's not enough evidence, they'll dismiss it and issue you a "right to sue" at which time you can privately do so. Any Labor Law attorneys here, please correct me if I'm wrong. If Cali isn't a no-fault state, then any subsequent firing could look like malice or retaliation on Miss X's part, so she might be a little apprehensive to pull that trigger.
Did you watch 'Girl with the Dragon Tattoo'? The scene near the end where Daniel Craig is tied up in Nabo's I mean Martin's torture room is a great example of your situation. Martin asks Mikael why he followed Martin back into the house when his gut sensed something was wrong and was telling him not to. Martin mentioned how the only thing people fear more than imminent pain or death is the fear of offending others, and that all he had to do was politely ask his victims to come with him and they would. IMO, people in your situation often ignore their gut and don't take action b/c they trust the other person will do the right thing, and b/c they're afraid to cause damage to the other person for the small chance the other person might actually stop their wrong behavior & do the right thing. However, all too often the other person could care less about you or your job (hence their actions toward you in the first place), and when they sense something is wrong and their actions have put their own self/job in jeopardy, they won't hesitate a second to sacrifice you to save their own ***. Therefore, if you TRULY fear for you job and your gut is overwhelmingly telling you to protect your butt, then SET.HER.UP. She's put herself in this predicament, not you, so you can't assume she won't screw you over in a preemptive attempt to save her own butt. As soon as she realizes her actions might be jeopardizing her job, you're likely fired and subsequently slandered to future employers to stay consistent with her actions of firing you. Plus, people who are lying typically go overboard in attempt to convince others of it. Hence, if she fears for her job and takes action to fire you, there's no telling what she makes up for her reasoning. Maybe you "groped her while making a vulgar sexual advancement". Don't think future employers will take kindly to that sort of employee. Simply, my rule is--- don't trust your well-being in the hands of a selfish, crazy, or amoral person. It usually doesn't end well. Unfortunately I've learned all of this first hand. During college I had to mastermind a crazy and in depth ploy to clear my name of rape allegations from a psycho chick trying to scare her roommate away from me b/c she wanted me all to herself (despite us not being in a relationship) and was fearful of her roommate and I hitting it off. Her "attempt" ultimately took on a life of its own with a few girls in her dorm wanting her to take it to campus police, so I set the conniving ***** up to where others would see her for her true colors, the real truth. Subsequently, the person transferring to another college in an effort to avoid hatred, embarrassment, and persecution wasn't me; it was her. It was quite devious and some might call it "not morally proper". However, anyone who naively says, "we have laws and a judicial system in place to handle this kind of stuff" has obviously never been on the wrong end of a verdict despite the truth being otherwise. Either that, or they ignorantly believe in some imaginary moral highroad that dictates EVERY situation regardless of circumstance, even if it means damaging their own self while absolving the one deserving punishment. Screw that! I've seen enough injustice to trust that there won't always be justice, so if I can exact justice or prevent a potential injustice without breaking any laws, then I could give 2 sh**s whether or not it's viewed as moral in everyone's eyes. So, Step 1: Get her in a room with you where others cant see you, but where they WILL see you leave it. Men's bathroom would be great!!! Step 2: If possible, do it on a day where she's wearing noticeable lipstick. (If she never does, then ask her "how come you never wear red lipstick? I think it'd look great on you!"..... then sit back and patiently wait for the day she wears it to win your acceptance.) Step 3: Beguile her to kiss you on the cheek. Step 4: Pull the front of your shirt out of your pants. (if you rarely wear something tucked in, start doing so more often to prevent arousing suspicion). Step 5: Immediately storm out of the room for all to see while yelling "!!!What part of NO don't you understand!!" Then call or tell your boss that you need to go home the rest of the day to cool off from this hostile situation she's put you in. ***Hopefully lipstick on cheek + shirt pulled out + screaming + witnesses = perceived sexual harassment = Miss X fired while you antagonistically flip her the bird when no one's looking.
^That was pretty impressive. I've been very professional in an attempt to steer things in the right direction, although I still fear what she might or might not do. I texted her (early we on had done this) asking her a work related question and she called back which is a little interesting. Regardless, she still finds ways of bugging in. I was wrapping up after a large BOD meeting and started speaking to this woman outside the company (attractive). All of a sudden after acting like I was some small potato there is she is butting in that "I finally get to go home" to the other girl, completely ignoring any conversation. Whether it's games of jealousy or not, you don't really know. It's just pretty clear to me her attitude is whatever I can use to my advantage I will use to my advantage. She moves away at the end of April (apparently) to live with her BF (apparently).
Todd that is the type of plan that is so genius that it never seems to work out right I like it though. Any updates?
Cool....can't be any worse than a plan to embarass a woman that I was given. I'll share that through PM as well.
You most certainly can NOT. Now I'm having female issues -_- not with the female herself but just with a whole situation. Though mine isn't as cool/devious as this
She's moved, but still works for the company. Mentioned what our married names would be at some point as a joke by the way (it was in context of something but still)... Umm ya
That will show her who's boss. Use your fingers first to let her get use to it & a no means yes. Of that doesn't work you might have to start thinking of drastic matters but don't use google to search on how to do things or you'll get busted. Just be creative! Creativity always wins you brownie points in the end. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
If you guys are dating someone and you hear some "talk" that if true would be a definite deal breaker, how would you respond to it?