Research Report: Ryan Tannehill

How a QB with limited playing experience who had a 29/15 TD/Int ratio, was a projected 2nd round pick at the end of the season and hasn't been able to show off his skills b/c of a broken foot has become possibly the #8 pick in the draft is beyond me. Good athlete "yes" but a huge reach as a top 10 pick.

Only 4 of his 13 games last year he didn't throw an interception and had three 3 interception games. Through multiple picks in 25% of games started and 3 picks in 20% of games started.

 

Just like Matt Flynn, we have the #1 guy in Mike Sherman with insider info on Tannehill. We have to give the benefit of the doubt that if Sherman see's Tannehill as the future he will bang the table and Ireland will listen to him. If they pass on him we should assume Sherman was not that into Tannehill.

 

Tannehill's rise up the board is only a surprise to those who focus on stats rather than skills.

 

I really hope they don't cave in to pressure and draft this guy at #8. As i said before here, i don't like this guy at all, let alone drafting him with the #8 pick.

 

Not at all, this is merely a case of a marginal prospect being valued more highly due to pereceived need at the Qb position. It is sort of dummy thinking in that simply because he plays Qb does not mean he is a good Qb to begin with, that is how reaches happen.

Big Decisions should never be made out of desperation, they should be made with cold, calm, reasoning,

 

How many of those games did you watch? What I saw a kid with 20 starts and a terrible receiving corps. I think I read somewhere that his receivers dropped over 60 passes on the season. I certainly don't think he's as polished as Luck and RGIII but if Ireland has targeted him as a franchise prospect then he needs to do whatever he needs to do acquire the player.

 

If we can trade back and still get him I am all for it.I think he is a reach at #8 and hopefully they don't trade up to get him but
I think he has alot of talent but needs to be developed slowly and not rushed on the field because of his limited experience.
If they draft him at 8 or lower I think will be to much pressure to play him and he will struggle.

 

I would not be thrilled with the pick, as since we are capped out, the draft is our sole means of acquiring ready to contribute players, Tannehill is not ready to start.


That reminds me a bit of the John Beck situation.

 

I wouldn't mind Brandon Weeden who is more NFL ready.

 

Won't take that bait . But I will say, I think Weeden can be a franchise qb as well.

 

Exactly. We passed on Flynn because Philbin didn't think he was franchise material. If Sherman, the guy who has been coaching Tanny, says he's the guy I have nothing else to do but believe him. If not for Sherman, however, I wouldn't touch Tanny with a 10 foot pole. I (a person who has never worked in any way, shape, or form, as an NFL scout) do not see the hype over Tanny.

 

What does he do so well that impresses you? Serious question. I've read a lot of your posts and you seem to do the research to back up your opinions.

 

To be fair, we assume that is the case, but it's the most likely assumption.

 

What if he can be better then Moore then your missing out on Weeden's career?

 

I think our front office is pretty done on Moore. The whole offseason to me reeks of a team that thinks last year was his ceiling.

 

That's your opinion, Pods..... and you kinda used a superficial reason to discredit Raf's belief.

So basically, before all the hype started, anyone who thought he was a top 10 talent was feeling that way b/c we overvalued him out of a desperate need to fill the QB position? That's kind of insulting tbh.

 

See it every yr Bro, a player appears to be desirable, so the normal process of evaluation is tossed out the window.

20 starts, inaccurate at times, and fumbles the ball a lot, sounds like John Beck tbh.

 

How much would our combined salary be between Moore, Tannehill, and Garrard?

 

Ross came out right after the season and said we were getting a franchise qb.

1. Stupid statement. Free information on the perceived state of your franchise to the rest of the league and..
2. An implicit statement that the guy you have is not a franchise qb.

Even if you are right and he has more potential I think the internal view is he was a backup qb who did what he was supposed to. Nothing more or less and that is all he will ever be.

I'm also betting Philbin wants his own trigger man.

 

that's BS, pods. Stop telling WHY I believe what I believe.
He doesn't "appear" to be desirable to me. He IS desirable to me. I said it before the hype started (just as others did including Raf) so stop insulting us.

Thank you for providing a great assessment of Tannehill by the way. I think you should submit that Ireland for strong consideration. Make sure you staple all in proper order, maybe binder it together in nice aqua & orange colors.

Anyone who compares John Beck with Ryan Tannehill needs their head examined. just sayin.

 

If they like Tannehill, I think they're going to have to grab him at 8 regardless of whether or not its a reach. But then again, if they really think he's a franchise guy, there's no such thing as a reach.

 

Heaven forbid we spend that much this year on the least important position on the field, so Pods is probably right.

 

Maybe you're right. Personally I don't think they view Moore as much but if Tannehill is the pick either Moore or Garrard have to get a chance because Ryan just isn't ready.

If Weedens the guy then that shouts that they don't believe in Moore and Weeden will start day 1.

 

Raf was a scout so he's worth listening to on this stuff.


















He's wrong a lot but still an entertaining read. j/k

 

If Cleveland takes Tannehill and you think Weeden is the real deal, you still have to pull the trigger as you know. It just depends on how Ireland feels about Weeden I guess.

However, considering Moore was Ireland's hand selected guy, and looking at the type of QB Moore is, I'm inclined to think if we miss on Tannehil that Cousins might be the next on his list since he and Moore have a lot of similar intangibles--- athletic, mobile QBs, with great leadership, who don't have an elite arm but just find ways to win. I wouldn't be upset taking him if we miss Ryan. Call me crazy, but if anyone from this draft turns out like a Tom Brady (IE: passed over and then later blossoms into greatness), I think it's Cousins.

 

My wake up at 3 AM in the morning screaming nightmare is that they either don't draft a qb or take one late (like 4-7). we need to seriously invest in the position. I am preying Philbins hiring is the harbinger of us returning to offensive glory as opposed to offensive play.

When we trade down in the first and then draft Jonathan Martin imma have ta kill Ireland.

 

4 fumbles, 1 lost for the season. That doesn't sound like a lot to me.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273654

 

He's top 10 talent so I wouldn't call it a reach for us per se.

When I would call it a reach is if you need that green QB to step in immediately and it's during a previous draft where his heavy cost is eating into your cap while you develop him. Fortunately neither apply to us, therefore it's not a reach IMHO. This is a perfect year for us to take a guy like Tannehill IMO.

 

Wasn't Orton more so and Moore was just the next on the list to back up Henne/compete? A little bit of a reach, no?

 

You forgot the give Moore a big money extension.

 

This video about sums up how I feel about Ryan Tannehill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF54CeamI7k&feature=youtube_gdata_player




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That sounds logical, but it wouldn't necessarily mean they don't believe in Moore. It might just mean they believe in Weeden more so.
And considering we signed Garrard to only 1 season and didn't heavily pursue Flynn or Alex Smith, I'm thinking we do believe in Moore b/c I doubt we'd willingly put all our eggs in the draft basket (or Garrard for that matter).

 

Aqua has any of the posters you've name, came out and endorsed Matt Moore? If you can find the post I would love to read it to try and come to terms with him.

 

The last part of my post is my fear that he will start right away and it will be a case of lost confidence.
I think we can get him later in the draft and add a 2nd rounder in the process and then let him sit and learn.

 

Good point.
To clarify, I just meant that Moore was Ireland's doing (an acquisition that few fans, including myself, believed would've turned out as good as it did), so even if Moore might not have been Ireland's first choice, he was still a guy Jeff liked or else he wouldn't be here. Something about Moore had to catch Ireland's eye to think he would be a worthy backup. If we look at the type of offense Ireland seemed to have in mind when hiring Daboll and subsequently the type of backup QB he brought in for that offense, I just see Kirk Cousins as being someone Jeff might find very appealing (beside Tannehill of course).

 

If he makes it to the Dolphins (they wont trade up), what are the odds they pass up on him?

 

It's funny,

If we drafted Weeden early there are lots here who would e doing cartwheels while Joe Dolphinfan would be going wtf who is this old guy?

 

That likely won't happen. We're taking an impact player. I'd virtually bet my life on it.
If we want RT bad enough to use a 1st rounder, I firmly believe we would've made sure to sign Winston or someone else allowing us to free up our 1st, especially since that 1st is a top 10. Hopefully a team doesn't get many of those, so when you do IMO they should be used on impact players at core positions that you typically don't have a chance to acquire without dropping a $40.0M+ FA contract on them. IMO any GM who uses a top 10 on a RT should be fired on the spot unless it's the only pick you can make and he looks like a HOFer.