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Here's the REAL perception about our team..

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    I am withholding judgement until after the draft. But if they don't get us a good young QB, I am done with these losers. 40 years is too long to wait while these clowns figure out how the NFL works. I can outplay David Garrard. Terrible move.
     
  2. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    LOL your boy Henne can't even outplay Garrard.
     
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  3. Aquafin

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    ARE YOU F ING SERIOUS Matt Moore and David garrard are third string players and that is all they are. please if you think Miami is a good team then you better lay off the bong.

    Hartline, Bess, Garrard and Moore wow the whole league is trembling in there cleets. I Dont understand why any logical dolphin fan would be happy with these players .

    these guys may get us to .500 there is no way in hell we even sniff the playoffs.

    sure we can improve but realisiticly other teams made a real effort to get better Ireland is just dicking around . I have to say i dont see many fin fans wanting to get better and many fans seem happy as hell with not having playmakers on this team. :pity::pity::pity:
     
  4. Vinny Fins

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    The koolaid drinkers here piss me off. Clearly, David Gerrard is destined for greatness.
     
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  5. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    By the end of the season you will be wishing we kept Henne. Save this and remember it.
     
  6. GMJohnson

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    Nah, he shoulda called 1-800-FranchiseQB. 30 minutes or less or it's half price!
     
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  7. Bulldog

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    Can you link a post where anyone came close to saying this? I've only seen where people are saying that Garrard will be a back-up and a good insurance policy. I aree.
     
  8. Rocky Raccoon

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    LOL at koolaid drinkers. Garrard is a cheap signing for depth and maybe he will be starting at some point if Moore struggle/gets hurt or Garrard just lights it up in camp.

    There is absolutely no reason to dislike this move unless you just want to ***** for the sake of *****ing. Which many people these days seem to do here.

    We will still draft a QB.
     
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  9. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Is this comment serious?
     
  10. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Again, it wasn't me that made upgrading the QB position the Dolphins top priority this off season. It was Ross and Ireland that made this the teams top priority. If you are satisfied with Garrard being considered an upgrade, good for you. To me I see this as no upgrade at all.

    Ireland has had four years to find a quality QB for the Dolphins, not just this one off season. He has failed to do any better than Henne, who was a bust as a Dolphin QB. Moore was decent against bad teams last season but he certainly isn't the long term answer at the QB position for the Dolphins. Garrard is merely a QB who seems to be signed just to show that they could sign at least one veteran QB in free agency. The fact that Garrard was not on the list of other teams in need of a veteran backup QB, seems to be of no consequence to those who are just happy to see the Dolphins sign anyone at this point.

    If Ireland had just been hired as the teams GM and this was the best he could do at the QB position, I would understand. Unfortunately he has been here for four years and he still hasn't done anything to upgrade this position for the long term.

    I agree the Redskins will be in a tough situation if RG3 ends up a bust. I just don't think he will be a bust and I would have had no problem with the Dolphins making this same type trade to move up and select him in this years draft. In fact, since I don't think Tannehill, Weeden, or any of the other QB's, after Luck and RG3 are worth risking a high draft pick on. I would have no problem with the Dolphins making a similar trade as the Redskins did this year to move up into the top pick in the 2013 so they can select Matt Barkley.

    I just hope that whomever has the first pick in the 2013 draft, if it isn't the Dolphins, will be as willing to trade this draft pick, as the Rams were this year. If it cost the Dolphins what it cost the Redskins and Barkley is a huge success, it will be well worth whatever picks they give up for him. If he comes to Miami and is a bust, I will admit I was wrong about him, but nothing else the Dolphins have done since Marino retired has solved this QB problem. So it's not like the Dolphins will have a lot more options than Barkley in the near future. Obviously the QB situation isn't going to be fixed in 2012. Perhaps a New GM will be hired after the season and he will have more success at finding that long term answer at the QB position. Ireland certainly doesn't appear to have the ability to fix this major problem.
     
  11. unluckyluciano

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    I don't understand all the hate for garrard. Pre injury he was a solid qb.
     
  12. jw3102

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    If the Dolphins had the chance to draft Luck or RG3, I would agree with you. I just don't see any of rest of the QB's in this draft class ever being anything more than mediocre QB's in the NFL. The vast majority of them will be lucky to make an NFL as a backup, IMO. A lot of people on here seem to like Tannehill or Weeden. I just don't get it.
     
  13. Bulldog

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    Do you think Garrard is an upgrade? Do you think Ireland or Ross does? Do you know that we only have one QB on the roster with any game experience? Would you have rather they signed Vince Young as the back-up? Think that would have worked?

    Henne was never coached properly. If you think he was then you also must think Sparano was a good HC. The truth is, we don't really know what Henne is or will be. Why? He was screwed over and mentally ****ed with too much.

    Who, besides a few fans, has said that Moore is the answer? If he is the answer then why would Ross and Ireland (the latter of which who never speaks to the media) publicly announce that they were going to find a different QB?

    Garrard was on other teams lists. That's a fact. He was brought in to back up. His contract proves that much.

    The best he could do? Again I ask you, what else do you want him to do? Force Manning my gunpoint to come here? And it's obvious that Philbin, the guy who coached him for 4 years, wasn't high on Flynn. Would you rather they just sign him anyways? Sign a career back-up and give him starter money just to appease some fans?

    I would have had a problem with making a trade like the Redskins did for anyone not named Dan Marino, P. Manning, or Johnny U. in their primes.

    Is it Ireland's fault that Barkley decided to stay? Is it Ireland's fault that after RG3 there are some big what-ifs left in the QB pool?

    Has Ireland been calling the shots since Marino retired? Since Ireland has been calling the shots what great/franchise QB's have we had a legitimate shot at and missed out on? I can't think of a one. Can you?


    In summary, you're blamming Ireland because since Marino retired the Dolphins'a have had no QB, it's his fault that we're picking 8th in the draft, Ireland made it so picking 8th in the draft would require teams to mortgage their future for the next decade to move up and last but not least...poor coaching.

    Does that cover everything?
     
  14. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    He was a very average QB on a very average team in the NFL. That is exactly what the Dolphins already have with Matt Moore. So how exactly is Garrard the upgrade at the QB position which Ross and Ireland promised a few months ago? As a backup for Moore, he is certainly qualified. As the long term answer at the QB position for the Dolphins, not a chance.
     
  15. unluckyluciano

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    That still doesn't explain the hate. And his team being avg has nothing to do with his play. The only troubling thing to me about him is his fumbles. All other stats are not bad at all. And I didn't hear anyone come out and say he was our future. His contract suggests he's anything but that.
     
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  16. jw3102

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    I admitted he would be an adequate backup and that seems to be why the Dolphins signed him in the first place. I certainly don't hate him, just as I don't hate Moore. I just don't think either of them are the answer at the QB for the Dolphins over the long run. Also Garrard certainly isn't the BIG upgrade at the position Ross and Ireland said they were going to go out and secure during this off season.

    Garrard is what he is, just as Moore is what he is. Both are stop gap QB's who fill a need at this time, but neither is the QB you want on your team as the starter if your goal in to win a Super Bowl. If you are happy with another 6-10 or possibly 7-9 season, Garrard and Moore are fine as your QB. If you are actually attempting to become a true playoff contender with aspirations of making it to the Super Bowl, neither of these QB's are going to get you there, IMO.

    My aspirations are obviously higher than some others on here who seem satisfied with Moore and Garrard as the QB solution for the Dolphins at this time.
     

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