Our franchise is officially a joke.

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  1. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Double Rainbow...all the way.
     
  2. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Personally, I think it IS justified in regards to Ireland. Ross I'm willing to cut a little more slack, only because I think he may have gotten some bad advice. He's not a football guy (clearly), so he relies on the advice of others. Maybe he's kept him as long as he has as a favor to Parcells; I don't know. What I do know is that he's losing/lost A LOT of credibility with the fanbase and if he doesn't do something quick, Budweiser might feel differently about buying a lot of tickets next year.
     
  3. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Honestly I think there should be only one way Jeff Ireland could save his job and that's by finding a franchise QB in this draft. Think about how hard that's going to be given our draft position.

    The good news is the bean counters are going to be explaining to Stephen Ross just what a terrible job Jeff Ireland is doing. When the season tickets sales continue to decline, hopefully Ross will get the picture.
     
  4. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I really wish you guys had been there with me to see that rainbow. IT STRETCHED ALL THE WAY!
     
  5. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    You could apply arbitrary lists such as this to almost any team in the league.

    Surely you don't see Broncos fans complaining they whiffed on Paul Soliai.
     
  6. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Too bad with most QBs it takes some time to know if its a franchise guy. So that gives more Ireland defenders ammo to claim he should stick around to see if he grows into a franchise QB.
     
  7. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    I thought they were a joke 2 years ago.
     
  8. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Start overpaying for free agents/big names. Trade away draft picks.
     
  9. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    And I'm still laughing that someone would take the time to visit a message board just to cry about how bad the team is lol

    That's hilarious.

    And I don't make playoff predictions in March, which is probably due to the fact that I'm not an idiot.
     
  10. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    How about continue going 6-10 and 7-9? That do anything for you?
     
  11. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    LOL at arbitrary. Legit LOL.
     
  12. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Yes. Have a hug. You get it. Winning is the name of the game. We from the 11-5 season, have gotten worse each of the last 3 years. People act like irleand built a perenial powerhouse and had a down year.
     
  13. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Not really. My evaluation of Ireland is not based off W-L record.
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Da Fins, If you really think that Philbin did not lead the Matt flynn situation, and advise Ireland to not sign him, then of course you would be right about a lot, It would be the most irreparable GM decision I have ever heard of, absolutely a fireable offense, and if I was a reporter, this would be the story I'am trying to break..If we get word it was the case that Ireland overruled Philbin, with his offensive history, with that kind of intimate knowledge, we should all go to headquarters and beat the sh&^ out of him...

    Problem is, I'am 100 percent confident no'one who holds that position, is that stupid, in that situation, with those type of variables and inside information available.
     
  15. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Seems legit.
     
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  16. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    Is it how he dresses?
     
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  17. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I believe part of the criticism against Ireland is that because he's disliked, he has to overpay to lure quality free agents.
     
  18. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    That makes sense then.
     
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  19. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    how bout turning two 2nd rounders into two 3rd rounders in exchange for two seasons of good WR play?
     
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  20. Mk2

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    Complain away, you have every right to man.
     
  21. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Who has he overpaid?
     
  22. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Clearing cap space for a player that will only touch the ball 3-4 times in the new offense; that is under investigation for hitting a woman; and coincidentally has serious psychological issues.

    I do agree, two 2nd rounders was too much to pay. Hopefully Ireland learned his lesson from that move.
     
  23. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Everybody he has ever signed. How's that for an answer? Have you seen the Fins cap situation?
     
  24. Stringer Bell

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    Pretty damn awful.
     
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  25. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    BS. "Clearing Cap Space" should be the last reason you use to make that trade that makes your original trade even worse.
     
  26. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    No, the salary cap is not just a myth. It actually exists. Marshall isn't worth his contract in the new offense.
     
  27. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Just a fact.

    Show me the guy that they got for good value. I can find ONE. Matt Moore. That's it. Even their best signing for the production (Reggie Bush) they paid premium for.
     
  28. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    You'd have to ask the folks making that claim. Personally, while I think he's overpaid for plenty of free agents, I don't think that it's a result of his personality.
     
  29. PhinsRDbest

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    Dansby, Gibril Wilson, Ernest Wilford, Justin Smiley, Grove, Incognito, Hicks, Marshall.
     
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  30. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    Marshall would have only touched the ball 2-3 times....A GAME??? :?:
     
  31. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    "The new offense". WHAT NEW OFFENSE? They haven't played a game yet.

    Wait till Greg Jennings contract is up. They already paid him a fat contract in 09' for his production.

    That is still not the point. They are paying more than half of Marshall's cap charge this year. SO they are paying him 5.8 million to play for Chicago, while getting screwed on the deal overall. That is just stupid.
     
  32. Stringer Bell

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    Cameron Wake

    Randy Starks

    Jason Taylor

    Matt Moore

    Either way, I'm fairly opposed to spending much money in free agency in general. But if you look at the guys that he has spent premium money for, they've at least played up to their pay, if not exceeding it (Dansby, Bush). Certainly its been better than paying Santonio Holmes or Antonio Cromartie or David Harris premium money for **** play.
     
  33. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Oh, that money they are paying Marshall this year? Could have paid for Reggie Wayne, and given themselves a real chance at enticing Peyton Manning.
     
  34. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    No, because his $10M next season isn't going to be an issue next offseason. And $5.8M in dead money is pretty good for this type of situation. There are teams that routinely get stuck with a lot more, and have no options but to stick with the player.

    And Greg Jennings got $16M guaranteed over 4 years. He's making $4M this year. I'm not sure how thats considered "fat". Either way, in that offense he wasn't any more valuable to Jordy Nelson last season.
     
  35. Stringer Bell

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    Dansby is not overpaid.

    The rest were, and somehow the team managed not to get stuck in those contracts. I wonder how???
     
  36. Stringer Bell

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    3-4 times, yes. Brandon Marshall had over 30% of the team's targets last season. That was second-most in the NFL. Nobody from GB was even in the top-30 in % of team targets.
     
  37. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Jennings will have earned 26 million over the 4 years he signed for. That was a FAT contract in 09' for his production.
     
  38. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I think Richard Marshall's contract was a good one as well. However, the above list of Grove, Smiley, Wilson and more certainly outweigh the good ones he's had. Also, we haven't heard about Wake yet - he's deservedly in need of a pay increase.
     
  39. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Wake they paid the most out of everybody that went after him. That he produced is great, but they outbid everybody.

    Randy Starks was a good deal, but now he is gonna take credit for that one? So all the good deals are his, and the bad ones to Parcells?

    Jason Taylor? LOL.

    I gave you Matt Moore.
     
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  40. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Yes he is. The guy has not made a pro bowl, and for the money he has made, and is gonna get, he should be a perennial pro bowler.
     

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