Peter King: Big Factor in Sea over Miami was Vibe...

Channing Crowder.

 

I don't want you to eat any crow, Blitz. I just wasn't fully understanding where you were coming from based on your feelings last year.

 

And how the hell have we ever managed without him?

Really didn't think he was relevant enough to list.

 

Maybe part of my frustration is that I'm fairly certain Ireland still won't draft a QB #1 overall. Maybe there won't be one worth drafting by our pick. Does that mean that just like last year Ireland will get a pass for once again failing to address the position if that happens? It's frustrating.

 

Smoke, meet fire.

 

Frustrating to see a player say something like that about the Dolphins. He talks like he thinks signing there would have been the biggest mistake of his life.

 

2 or 3 players out of the entire league

2 of which are mentally questionable.


I like the odds.

 

He even acknowledges that Miami offered more money, and he still went back to Pitt

 

I'm just gonna stand here...Put the vibe out

 

Your frustration's understandable, MB, and it's not like it's unwarranted.

 

Look...

To me...it looks like they intend to draft a QB...and that was their plan...outside of Manning. They werent goin to sign Flynn.....to what he wanted.

My guess..they werent goin to tell him...he would automatically start.

Im down with the approach of Moore and a Tannehill...or Weeden

 

Yeah players don't usually go out of their way to say stuff like that. It's troubling that he feels so strongly he would put it on twitter. It's hard to just ignore everything that's happened in the past year or so and pretend it's 'normal' and it's happening to every team. I don't think it is.

 

You make it sound like the rest of them actually like the guy, rather than just not commenting. Can you name any players who have anything positive to say about Jeffrey?

 

And you know they don't?

I'm gonna guess Soliai since he just gave him a bigass discount.

 

Also said it was an easy decision.

 

what has gone on?, our franchise didn't spend 30 million dollars on a player that the head coach didn't want running his team...

You have to consider the pressure Philbin was under, I'am sure that this being his first gig and all, he didn't want to settle..Its his *** on the line if Flynn wasn't franchise caliber..especially for a franchise that is starving for one.

 

lol, I think its hilarious people are putting the blame on Ireland for this one..

 

Flynn was persuaded by a Pontiac Vibe?

 

Signing the players he wants, not the ones the fans think he should be signing.

 

You're not understanding what I'm saying. Players NEVER say stuff like this in public. The fact that Clark did, means there are others who feel this say but have chosen not to.

 

One negative issue regarding Ireland, that rarely has been called into question, but likely would have met little opposition if it had, regards his attitude.
Personally, If the guy was selling TV's I'd probably shop elsewhere, and unfortunately, the guy happens to be lead salesman for all our hopes and dreams, every September through January.

If Philbin informed him, "Sure","Matt Ryan can be instrumental in this offense, and can adaquately lead us where we need to go." whereby leading Ireland to reply, "Ok, then leave it to me to acquire him",
I would have serious concerns about Ireland, going up against Pete Carroll in a head to head, come play for my team, shootout.

 

Well, we do have those ugly *** orange jerseys too.

 

I understand perfectly well what you're saying, I just think it's meaningless.

One player in the league doesn't like our GM. How will we ever go on?!

And no, it absolutely does not mean what I bolded.

 

some fans enjoy reliving the Matt Millen Detroit years I guess

 

How people can ignore it is beyond me. Every media outlet reports it, and has been since Ross came around, and since the Harbaugh incident... Most will say its just the media picking on us though. But its not just the media, its even players saying it. Where there's smoke, there's fire... There's a reason we've been missing out on free agents for the last few years, its not just because we havent been winning. The Bucs havent done much winning lately, they got a great FA haul this year. The lions were pitiful, nobody wanted to go there, now look. It's time someone in the organization starts paying attention to the perception theyre giving off, because its clearly not working. How some can deny that, is beyond me.

 

Sigh. You're not comprehending. It's ok. Ireland is awesome. He's built the Dolphins into a Championship contender. Clearly.

 

I understand where Ireland gets fire but honestly I do not see why Ross. He has done what good owners do and stay out of football related decisions for the most part. His only mistake if any has been not hiring successful people to run the operation, but you can't say he hasn't tried with Parcells and Ireland. Also reports are that Philbin was his choice and most of us love the hiring.

 

Sigh, there's nothing more to comprehend bc I don't value your speculation. It's ok.

 

You clearly don't understand the difference between making an offer to someone and not being willing to give them whatever they want.

 

Or they just aren't as high on Flynn as you think. And his 1.5 games doesn't mean he should be paid average starter money either imo.

Marshall will be a FS.

Moore is the only signed QB on the roster isn't he? Might wana add another one either way.

They can't upgrade the QB position in the draft?

Ross and Ireland only come off as fools to other fools who want to buy in to what the media is spinning, imo.

 

lol Yet Flynn wasn't?

We should just go pick a QB off the franchise QB tree. It's that easy, right?

 

lol No you only insinuate it when you say the FO has QB as their first priority and act surprised when they haven't easily found one.

lmao Flynn played 1 game! Nobody aside from Philbin knows exactly how developed he is, no matter how much you want to believe he was the answer.

My argument is there wasn't a great QB option out there so I'm not ****ting my pants bc we didn't add one.

 

That's not exactly true. John Schneider, formerly of Green Bay and now the Seahawks GM, knew about Flynn and his development.

 

I think Miami lost the game of chicken. I think Miami wanted Flynn, and he wanted them. However, Miami was banking on Flynn wanting them a lot more than they did.

Flynn's choice did have to do with the five I'm sure. Not more than the money he was offered by Seattle. But, in essence, he's going to a place with a familiar OC, the system he ran in Seattle, and better personnel, and chance to win at this point. So, I don't think he's lying at all when he says he liked the vibe more. It came down to more money and the vibe.