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New Marshall in Town!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by BlameItOnTheHenne, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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  2. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    can u tell me more about him? For some reason I've never heard of him. What position does he play?
     
  3. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Sean Smith just got demoted, and he doesn't even know it.
     
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  4. MikeHoncho

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    Did they also manage to sign Manolín Rampañolo?
     
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  5. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    New starting CB opposite VD.
     
  6. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    that sounds like a good deal. I hate it when we sign someone for depth. I'll welcome any upgraded starter. Where did he come from?
     
  7. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Not at all.
     
  8. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    What's the cap hit?
     
  9. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Bad OP! You missed the chance to use the phrase "New Marshall in Town!".
     
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  10. CANEPHINS

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    He played last season in Arizona, but Carolina before that. Dude can play and make plays.


    http://www.nfl.com/player/richardmarshall/2495894/profile
     
  11. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    fixed :up:
     
  12. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Marshall played safety last year guys.

    I'd assume that's the idea.
     
  13. CANEPHINS

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    Smith is going to have to compete, and right now he is not the player Marshall is.
     
  14. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    nice move
     
  15. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Whats his QB rating?
     
  16. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    Wish he had more int's on his resume.
    Looks like he only had 3 or 4 each year. 6 Seasons 17 int's.
     
  17. seabass0795

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    Last year he got game time with the Cardinals as a starter after Rolle got injured, so it shows that he can play FS. I think they move him over to FS, and fill a hole we needed to fill
     
  18. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Now they are learning how to do it.
    To bad Mannings plane got away.
     
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  19. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Big number.
     
  20. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    27 years old with 9 sacks and 17 Int. He can get his hands on the ball. 52 career pass defenses in 6 seasons. At those salary numbers he either replaces Smith or is the new FS.
     
  21. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    That's a serous signing he must be a definite upgrade.
    Atleast this is in a place that needed it.
     
  22. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Rhodes? Rolle is with NY now.
     
  23. seabass0795

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    My bad.. Yes I meant Rhodes. For some reason I get the two confused
     
  24. ToddsPhins

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    This is a good pick up for us.
    He's a versatile player and a good locker room guy IIRC. Marshall was tabbed as Zona's defensive MVP by coordinator Ray Horton.
     
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  25. Rouk

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    wow really 16mil seems like we over payed I hope we have plans to restructure some deals
     
  26. ToddsPhins

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    I don't think we over payed TBH.
    If Zona weren't caught up with Peyton, Marshall likely would've cost us more b/c the Cards didn't want to lose him.
     
  27. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Arizona's starting free safeties were Kerry Rhodes and Rashad Johnson. Adrian Wilson was the SS.
     
  28. seabass0795

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    Rhodes went down with an injury last year, they made some shifts and Marshall played FS for a handful of games
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The first 8 games he was nickel corner and AJ Jefferson started at corner opposite Peterson. The last 8 games, Marshall started at RCB six times and LCB two times.
     
  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Where did Rashad Johnson play after Rhodes was hurt?
     
  31. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    OMG, a DB that can actually hang on to the ball, Championship!
     
  32. seabass0795

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    I remember reading somewhere that he started at FS. He is listed in many sources as a CB/FS, and maybe he didn't start at FS but they did play him there last season. Either way he could come in and benefit our lack of FS
     
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  33. mracer

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    I never heard of this guy. Is he Allen's replacement?
     
  34. seabass0795

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    I have not personally seen the game footage of the Cardinals last season nor do I follow the Cardinals so I am going to take the guess that Johnson started at FS and Marshall was moved there at times throughout the game
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    My guess is Marshall played a sort of FS position in the nickel or dime, while Jefferson played the boundary. I saw some Cards games early in the season but cannot recall where Marshall lined up, so just going by PFF.
     
  36. Alex13

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    yeah signings for depth are purely overrated...he wont start he is a nickel corner or a FS


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  37. ToddsPhins

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    I hope you're not saying he's not a good signing b/c he might not "start".
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    In today's NFL the nickelback gets a lot of playing time
     
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  39. Killer Bees

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    I Love depth/competition in the secondary
     
  40. ckparrothead

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    I've just been watching a bunch of Richard Marshall's 2011 tape.

    At this point I'm comfortable saying that he is the Miami Dolphins' new starting Free Safety. I think that's more than a guess but less than a certainty, if that makes sense. The position strongly fits not only his skill set but what he did in Arizona. I watched the Baltimore and Seattle games. He spent more time at Safety opposite Adrian Wilson than any other position, and more importantly that's where he made plays from. When they put him at corner, he ran into trouble.

    As a corner, he can play there but he's clearly very limited. I don't know that hips are a problem, but closing speed certainly is. He's physical at line and can jam the hell out of a receiver but he's a little reckless and off balance, so if the receiver comes out of it then Marshall is in trouble. You can take him deep all day and win more than you lose. He needs to be covered with a safety. In the Baltimore game Anquan Boldin was killing A.J. Jefferson and Patrick Peterson so they decide to have Richard Marshall come down from his nickel safety position and play him man to man on the outside. Mistake. Right away they take him deep and Boldin was so physical with him Marshall got reckless and drew a bad pass interference near the end zone which let Baltimore have a touchdown, helped them come back. Later he had to run one-on-one with the rookie Torrey Smith and he couldn't do it. Torrey got several steps on him and the ball was poorly placed. Then on the final drive with less than a minute left and the Ravens needing 10 or 15 yards to get a field goal, Torrey Smith took Marshall to the woodshed deep again and ran a simple fade, Marshall just couldn't keep up.

    I saw more of that when I watched him try and match up on the outsides against Seattle but by then the Cardinals had wisened up and recognized that playing him in an off cover look was the only real way to go if you're going to play him on the perimeter...unless you're playing cover two like the Dolphins used to back in the day.

    To me, he is a safety and not a strong safety because he's not big or physical enough. He tackles by getting his hands around a bigger player's hips, using his strong hands to pull the player down solidly, or at worst getting him by the feet. But at times when he needs more force, he can bounce off the action like Earl Thomas used to do back in college at times.

    I disagree with Softli on the hips, I think he's got quick hips and some really cool stop-start ability. He showed that at the Combine with his 6.66 second cone drill, 10'9" broad jump, 38.5 inch vertical and 4.42 second result in the 40 yard dash. He shows it on film too. He's got quick hips but he's not a smooth player, doesn't have enough balance to really be a man to man corner. I would also say he lacks closing burst, that 3rd to 4th gear that you see in some of the better corners. The 4.42 shows that he can run, but I don't think he really shows that kind of speed often enough on the field.

    I can't really vouch TOO MUCH for the instincts. What I saw was good, pretty aware of threats to his areas of responsibility and he marries that with the quick hips and stop-start ability to drill down threats until he's got a lock on the ball. I saw him get one really keen interception against the Seahawks by getting a nice read on the quarterback.

    I think the key is someone probably either knows him or knows his coaches. If you did some digging I would bet that's the case. The reason this guy is our Free Safety and not Reggie Nelson would be, in my opinion, mental. I believe that for whatever reason, whatever inside knowledge the Dolphins staff has come across, this is the guy they've decided can be Kevin Coyle's trusted voice in the secondary, making calls and studying film, and leading a unit. He's certainly got a history of being a ball hawk. He had 300+ return yards off interceptions at Fresno State, with 3 touchdowns. He intercepted 9 passes, forced 2 fumbles and recovered 3 other fumbles.

    I think he's somewhat like an Oshiomogho Atogwe.

    I would also like to disclose that before I watched any of the tape I came into it thinking that I would find that Marshall is more of a corner than a safety. If you look at all his PFF stuff that's the picture they paint. In the first 8 games where he was listed as primarily a SCB, he had negative grades in 7 of the 8 games. Then the final 8 games he was listed as a starter at RCB/LCB and he had positive grades in like 6 of the 8 games. I was watching the Baltimore game and he's mostly playing nickel/dime safety, not doing a whole lot, then A.J. Jefferson and Patrick Peterson started getting abused by Anquan Boldin and they put Marshall on the outside against Boldin one on one and I thought this was going to be a revelation, they start using Marshall on the side, he puts people on lockdown, then spends most of the rest of the season as a starter at RCB/LCB.

    That's what I expected but that's not what I found. I saw a pretty limited corner getting abused in single coverage on the perimeter, but then a guy that showed more ability when patrolling the middle as a safety.

    The other thing about Richard Marshall which is a given, is that he gives you flexibility in what you do in your nickel packages because he can play center field, left/right safety, or come down into man coverage in SELECT situations (I'd personally be careful with that based on what I've seen, but he can do it).
     

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