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*The Official 2011-12 NBA Thread*

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Boik14, Dec 26, 2011.

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  1. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Good, the Knicks record is 7-0 since Lin is in. Enjoy that. You will be looking up at them in the standings by seasons end. Your team is not that good. Now thats beating my chest. Sig bet on it? You have a 5 game lead.....And youre not hanging on to it for very long.
     
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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Actually it was twice if you go back to last year. The same Igoduala he was touting a few pages back is allowing 29 and 10 RPG to Melo in the two games.

    Its not the same...Miami is actually good. I hate Miami because Im a Knick fan and thats how this works. I hate Philly because I hate all teams Philly because ther fans make NY look normal.
     
  3. Mainge

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    Delusion at it's worst.
     
  4. Mainge

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    Why are we counting last year again?
     
  5. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Sig bet it is. The Knicks are mediocre garbage, and by seasons end, you'll be telling me how I was right about black hole all along. That his stats are empty stats, and that he's not somebody you can win with as evidenced by his time in Denver where he couldn't even get out the 1st round.
     
  6. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Funny how just averages it up to make it look like Carmelo was great in both games. He was downright awful against a healthy Iguodala this year. He had his way with a banged up Iguodala last year, whoopy.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    I had to chime in.
     
  8. Section126

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    Philly is #1 in Def. Eff., #8 in Off. Eff., and #1 in taking care of the ball (least TO's).

    THAT is very good.

    Now the red flag.

    They are #22 in Reb. Rate.

    The Sixers are very good. There is no way around it. Their issue is rebounding.

    The Knicks however are #8 in Def. Eff., #23 in Off. Eff., #27 in TO, #20 in Reb. Rate.

    Make of that what you will.
     
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  9. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    We should be at least an average rebounding team when Hawes ever decides to man up and play. It's bad enough that we shoot like 4% worse from the field when he doesn't play. That's a pretty significant percentage.
     
  10. Boik14

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    Whatever you say chief.

    Why not? Thats how this started. He said Igo was better then Anthony and could check him. He cant check Anthony. He cant even sniff his jock. Its like a bad joke.

    LOL, its mighty convenient of people to forget about that trip to the WCF in a loaded western conference. Id love to have seen how he could have rolled through the east if the east was as weak now as it was then.

    I know Melo looked horrible when he was dunking and hitting turnaround jumpers on Igo all game earlier this year. Lest we forget...

    http://youtu.be/5lU730C-hLk

    http://youtu.be/tw5cAsMeEAI

    http://youtu.be/UiXYmidJHkA
     
  11. Clipse

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    You forgot the part where he was 9-24 with 5 turnovers. Show those highlights while we're at it. And no I didn't forget that WCF trip. I've brought it up several times in this thread. One time out the first round in his career. Awful. But that tends to happen when you're an empty stats superstar.
     
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  13. Fin-Omenal

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    Can't wait for Rd 1
     
  14. Section126

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    If you give me odds...I'll take them..that we have a Philly-New York Matchup in the 1st round/.
     
  15. Clipse

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    I would love that. Praying for Boston though that probably won't happen. My hatred for the Knicks isn't in the same galaxy as my hatred for Boston. Would love to send either team home in the playoffs.
     
  17. Boik14

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    oooh look 8-4 averaging 26 and 7. That Melo, hes terrible. Suckadolla cant even contain him.
     
  18. Section126

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    win-loss records don;t matter in H2H comparisons. They are not boxers.

    and 26 ppg on 21 shots is all kinds of terrible.
     
  19. Mainge

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    Because we're talking about the 2012 version of this 6ers team. They're much improved over last season.

    I don't mean to be disrespectful but I'm definitely taken aback that y'all feel so strongly about being better than Philly when there's nothing empirically to suggest that. Forget a sig bet, let's make an actual bet. If Philly/NYK happens in the playoffs, we'll deposit whatever the agreed amount (nothing crazy, broke college student lol) is into a trusted 3rd parties' Paypal account, and then whoever that is will send the winner their earnings.

    What do you say?
     
  20. Mainge

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    Oh c'mon.
     
  21. Clipse

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    Pretty much. And Carmelo has been trash against Iguodala the last 3 years.
     
  22. Boik14

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    Sig bets are all I can make. Staff cant place actual bets...we're not supposed to encourage it. Im more taken aback by the Melo hate though i shouldnt be surprised. Really, who did Philly add to make their team any different then last year? Doug Collins? Vucevic? The Knicks changed up personnel entirely and I said that 58 pages ago so talk to me about having to adapt to different personnel in a shortened year with no practice time. I definitely feel strongly about it.

    Im sorry...I stopped reading after W/L records dont matter in H2H comparisons. I mean what else is there? We're not talking about Brian Scalabrine's record vs Lebron James or whatever. We're talking about two players who generally play against each other and 1 who is 8-4 with 26PPG and 7RPG. Nothing else really matters past that. Melo's efficiency ranking is what it is...he is a scorer and a pretty good rebounding SF. Thats what he does and hes among the best at it. The fact that he averages 4+ APG this year shows he has some adaptability in a role he is not comfortable in.
     
  23. Clipse

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    Sure hasn't done a very good job of it against Iguodala since 2009. And no, head2head doesn't really matter when comparing the 2. Carmelo played on better TEAMS, with much better coaching. Still couldn't help him get out of the 1st round more than once not surprisingly.
     
  24. Mainge

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    They have a myriad of young players that have improved dramatically (Holliday, Meeks, Turner, Young, Hawes). It's how the Bulls and Thunder have improved as well.

    As far as Melo, I don't think I've ever said anything negative against him in this thread.
     
  25. Mainge

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    I can't believe Boik is making me defend a Philadelphia team.
     
  26. Anonymous

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    Orlandooooooo maagiiccc!
     
  27. Mainge

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    Sorry bout Dwight
     
  28. Anonymous

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    It happens. I wanted to trade him earlier in the season so we could tank for Anthony Davis but whateva.
     
  29. gamblerx

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    Signing Chandler was a great signing. The Knicks need interior defense and they knew they weren't getting a center better than Chandler in the offseason.
     
  30. gamblerx

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    Pretty sure they drafted in the top 3 zone to draft their "guy."
     
  31. gamblerx

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    This Carmelo Anthony argument is really getting tiresome. In every basketball forum that I go to and every beaskeball thread that I read, there's always a discussion about "Carmelo is overrated." We already know that he's only considered a "superstar" because of his PPG but I'll still take him in the last 5 minutes of the 4th Quarter.
     
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    I have my reservations on Melo, but man you give a Knicks player any love and be ready for war around here.
     
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    The Irony.
     
  34. Section126

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    They just don't. Melo was on much better teams. How can you pound your chest about a win/loss record built on a 50+ win team beating a Lottery bound/8th seed Philly team?

    and what else is there? LOL. Like everything else that actually matters. Not the W/L record.

    If the teams were evenly matched, then maybe. Not in this case.
     
  35. Fin-Omenal

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    All you do is get on here and say stuff with no susbstance, but whatever makes you feel like you sound cool.
     
  36. Section126

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    Let's agree on one thing...

    The Knicks SHOULD HAVE won these 7 in a row. I can only make a case for one impressive win in the 7. The Minnesota win on the 2nd of a B2B. The Lakers went into MSG on a 2nd of a B2B and let's face it..the Lakers suck.

    Now, on Sunday..that is the first real test (Dallas). That is the first game that the Knicks should absolutely lose. They win that one, I am impressed.
     
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    Like Ive said...when you have watched your team be horrible for 10 years even beating 7 teams you should beat is a pleasent suprise. You are underestimating the expectational standpoint, atleast as far as IM concerned. IF Carmelo somehow clicks with Lin and Co. then the talent is there with the right draw to make an ECF. And if that were to happen I for one would be on cloud 9.
     
  38. Mainge

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    Like I said, I haven't once made any comment towards Melo although I did find it curious that Boik completely ignored the fact that Iggy has made Mello quite the inefficient player.

    I don't follow. What I'm saying was those teams had essentially the same personnel over the last few years and improved significantly as their young players did.
     
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    Looks like JR Smith is gonna be a Knick.

    If they use 4 guards, it can work. if they use JR Smith at the expense of Shump and Fields, then it is self defeating. But I trust that, the stellar coaching staff led by one of the great coaches of our time in Mike D'Antoni will figure that out right away.

    and again...you Knick fans don't deserve Landry Fields.
     
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    I want Landry Fields.
     
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