*The Official 2011-12 NBA Thread*

94 PPG actually with a mediocre FG% given up, and no, that's certainly not good enough if you want to beat the Heat in a 7 game series.

 

And unicorns used to roam the lolipop kingdom.

Any other fairy tales? Seriously the rap on Melo has ALWAYS been that he's a complete ballhog. I had heard that one to death long before he went to the Knicks. Hell before he was drafted.

 

R.J Smith to NYK according to LeBatard.

 

I can't see the Knicks beating the 76ers in a 7 game series. Maybe if Hawes is still injured because we go full ****** on offense without his ability to run the offense from the high post. But if we're healthy, our offense and defense will be too much for the Knicks, though they would probably win a game or 2 for the first time in ages.

 

Beating the Heat is one thing....beating the 76ers is quite another.

 

If the Knicks don't go back to being the Knicks again when they start playing real teams, we may be able to test that theory.

 

Your right. There may be a better chance they DONT mesh than there is that they do....but IF Carmelo fits in and these guys play together they are arguably the 2nd most dangerous team in the East.

 

2nd most dangerous team in the East, which is quite the stretch in and of itself, does not equal being the most capable of beating the Heat. I'll take being the 8th best team in the East so long as my team is constructed to beating the Heat in a 7 game series.

 

Bro, we were 8-15 about 10 days ago...I would be just fine with feeling like we are the 2nd best team in the East??

 

derrick rose disagrees with you

 

We have as much defensive talent as any team. I wouldn't expect a Knicks fan to consider defense as talent though, even though defense wins championships in the NBA. We're 20-10 beating bad teams, The Knicks are 15-15 with the easiest schedule in the league. We'll beat any team in the East except the Heat and maybe the Bulls in a 7 game series. I like our chances against the Bulls as we've matched up well with them. The Knicks are nothing more than playoff fodder as their roster stands now. A practice series for whatever team is lucky enough to match up with them round one. Believe me, the Sixers aren't scared of a chucker like JR Smith, and Jrue Holiday is licking his chops at the thought of being able to go up against a turnover machine like Lin. Might break the record for steals in a playoff series if that matchup happened. Shumpert, who cares. Not like we rely on one person to score anyways.

Looking forward to watching the Knicks losses pile up again when the empty stats superstar returns.

 

There are alot of "ifs" in my posts.

 

You suffer from the same sports delusions as many New Yorkers I'm afraid. The Knicks are what their record says they are. A mediocre team in perhaps the worst conference in the history of the league. Playoff fodder. If they make the playoffs maybe they can win a playoff game. It's been awhile.

 

I got a good chuckle out of that, thanks. Like I said, the Knicks are what their record says they are. They might give the 76ers a little scare by winning 2 games. Either way it's irrelevant since the Knicks will remain a 7-8 seed so they will get swept out the playoffs by the Bulls/Heat.

 

One thing I've learn is to never underestimate.

 

The problem with the Knicks, prior to the surgence of Lin, was the lack of PG plays. Now, with Lin, they most likely go over .500.

And this Carmelo Anthony-blackhole-ballhog-PG-thing... forget it. It's 2012, not 2005. The Knicks will do fine with Anthony and Lin on the court.

 

Alot of blatant disrespect for the Bulls and Sixers IMO.

The Bulls...forget it. if they are healthy...we are just wasting time till it is Heat/Bulls again.

But the Sixers, are one helluva defensive team. The reason the Heat own them is because the Sixers don't contrast well, with the Heat. They mirror the Heat and the Heat win matchups all over the court, so the games become elementary. But the Sixers can absolutely beat the Bulls. In fact, I would pick them to upset the Bulls.

So it is not crazy to think that the Heat and Sixers could meet in the ECF's.

As for a Knicks / Sixers series?

Guess what, there is a very good chance that they could meet in a 3-6 or 4-5 matchup.

I think Lin would need to keep his TO's to a bare minimum, to not allow any Sixer transitions. As of now, I think it would be a very competitive series, with the Sixers winning in 6.

 

Lin and Cole added to the Rookie - Sophmore game.

 

whoa...some strong hate out there still.

We love you Cleveland.

 

The Knicks match up well with the Bulls for whatever reason....and yes I respect the Sixers depth and team play, but they are no threat to win an NBA title imo.

 

I see Boik is on top of his duties lol

 

Not even close. Wow.

 

I think we all know the Sixers aren't a threat to the title. The point of this season is to win a series or 2 and try to attract Dwight in the offseason. Sixers land Dwight, we'll have as good a chance as anyone to beat the Heat in a 7 game series. Our defense would be absolutely ridiculous. And that's how I feel you need to beat the Heat, by matching their elite offense with an elite defense. You're not going to beat them in a shootout.

 

I think you have this backwards. When the Knicks prove themselves to be anything more than mediocre, then maybe I'll take this seriously.

C'mon Boik. I wouldn't pound my chest because you've beat a bunch of terrible teams in a row AND ARE STILL .500!

 

What's wrong with you people? Me nor Boik are pounding our chests, I know I said best case scenario we are the 2nd scariest team in the East. Nobody is pretending NY has arrived, look beyond your own tears and read what's actually wrote please.

 

and then you have to contend with the Heat's elite defense. LOL.

IMO adding Dwight to Philly makes them leap frog the Bulls.

 

Boik basically wrote "Knicks are better because we beat them in a meaningless regular season game. Philly is only 20-10 and we're better because we beat LA and a ton of terrible teams."

Minimizing Philly's 20-10 and then propping up the Knicks with "LAL and Utah plus beaten Minny, Toronto, Washington and NJN" is indeed chest pounding and hilarious.

 

Clearly, Miami is the team to beat in the East.

Chicago is a likely #2 seed in the East and I expect to see them in the ECF this year.

Philly is a great, young team with a lot of promise. They are playing great ball this year and should be commended how much they have improved in a year. This team is definitely not a fluke.

New York- started off the season miserably to say the least. If Lin keeps up his play, then in my opinion NYK can be a top 4 team in the East. I still have a problem with the Chandler signing-- I really don't think he was the best signing to pair with Stat. However, I will say the Knicks have been playing much improved lately. I don't care who they are playing, you can't fault a team for beating teams they should beat.

 

We've beaten plenty of good teams including the same LAL you're pounding your chest over. I'm seriously seeing you pounding your chest over beating Minny, Toronto, Washington, and NJ? LOL. What we haven't had, aside from the Nets game, is all the losses to pathetic teams that the Knicks have. The Knicks have beat 3 teams with a winning record all season. We have 6. So get out of here with that nonsense. Easiest schedule in the league thus far, .500 record. You are what your record says you are.

As for 2 meaningless regular season games, who cares. Those games mean nothing come playoff time. Especially considering the injury situations won't be the same. You played the Sixers last year with an Iguodala dealing with knee and achilles issues, and played the Sixers this year without our most important offensive player. We play Lavoy Allen and Vucevic a lot of minutes, that wasn't the case when you played us. Likewise we'll be playing the Knicks with Lin and whatever other situation arises. It's irrelevant.

 

And that's reaching. Beating them once in the regular season is absolutely meaningless.

Hell Boston and Chicago went a combined 6-1 against Miami last year in the regular season. Worked out well for them.