"Miami Dolphins might shun QB option with first-round pick"

#1. I think Flynn is going to be a Seahawk. Both Packer ties and a team a quarterback away from being good.

#2. You don't sign Flynn to have him compete, that is way too much money on the cap. Signing Flynn and having him lose the starting job would hurt Miami.

 

Trading up for RGIII or trading down and taking someone else later in the first round are options.

 

Now you're just stating the obvious. Sure he makes any team a contender, but why go to a team that will be a contender with him over a team thats already a contender without him? It's not like the 49ers have a franchise QB in place. Sure Alex Smith is playing good but cmon now... Peyton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Smith

Common sense here.

 

No way the 49ers dump Smith. After that win versus the Saints, you dump Smith, the entire team would revolt.

 

I'm pretty sure whatever "revolt" were to happen if Smith was canned, would be easily forgotten once they realize its Peyton replacing him. Its not like they'll dump him for a scrub like Flynn.

 

Well I'm finally conceding to this horrible bland news that we are stuck with Moore. I still want them to bring in Weeden in round 2 or later to compete with Moore and probably be his best competition out of the rest of the draft able qbs. While I'm afraid that most of the Pro-Moore side was wanting to add play-makers around him, unfortunately I see Ireland playing it safe again.

 

Back on topic though. Why would the Fins have to move up to the #2 Rams though? The Vikings already drafted a QB last year in Christian Ponder. So.. Why not try moving up there? Sure moving to #3 rather then #2 would be cheaper - draft pick wise of course.

Anybody else thinking Fins should go to the 4-3? A line with Odrick or Langford(if we resign him), Randy Starks, Paul Soliai(again if we resign him) and Cam Wake would dominate.

 

If we hire Philbin or Clements as HC, we will have both those criteria also.

 

Face it Dolphin fans. We're going to end up with a 2nd round draft pick or a over hyped free agent at QB that will be just good enough to leave us ****ing around in QB purgatory for another decade.

Learn to lower your expectations when it comes to this team and you'll have much less stress in your life.

 

Why? For fear that the Browns/Skins trade up with the Rams/Vikings and we don't get RGIII.

 

Why in the world would SF do that? Seriously Alex smith is a GOOD QB this year and going forward he will have momentum. Yes Peyton is better but 2-3 years of Peyton vs 10+ with Smith is a no brainier.. Peyton will go the the NFC IFFFFFF he ever leaves Indy!

 

Both scenerioes netted Drew Brees

 

The Dolphins will not draft a QB in the first round, if you think so you are kidding yourself. Miami has not addressed this position for so long so why do any different/ As far as Flynn goes are you kidding me? Thr guy played in one game, sure he had a great day but seriously why take a chance on a guy who is so unproven? Does Matt Cassell sound familiar lets not make the same mistake.

 

It's January and the fanbase is already on the cliff.
Let the suicide watch begin.

 

True, one of them would have to be hired first.

Plus Miami would have to change to a west coasty offense and Seattle already runs one.

 

True.
But if either of those guys gets hired, I think it's a safe assumption that we are switching to the WCO. I would also hazard a guess the Dolphins would be a more desirable landing spot than Seattle if Philbin and/or Clements are here.
I don't think we can rule out the possibility that all three could end up here;
HC - Philbin
OC - Clements
QB - Flynn
I'd be very happy if that scenario played out.

 

The exception, not the rule. How well has the strategy worked out for any team since? Compare it to the number of first round picks at QB having success since then, and then tell me if you think it's a better strategy.

And the only reason Drew Brees was a 2nd round pick is the Dolphins were too stupid to take him in the first like they should have.

 

First round pick quarterbacks hasn't worked out perfectly either.

 

I would be as happy with that as not firing sparano and starting Moore. I see little difference.

 

Maybe. Maybe not.
It hard to say because we have no track record of Philin as a HC and Flynn as a starter.
It's still better than the status quo, IMO. At least this we tried to improve, maybe you're right and it doesn't work. But I don't think Sparano/Moore was working either.

 

The thing is drafting an early quarterback is also trying to improve.

I do think Tanninhill, Brock and even Wilson are good options for the future.

 

Wait I just figured it out and were all so stupid! We don't need to draft a QB seriously and this year we already have one just as good as anything out there and a proven winner in college. This year we will have a real competition in camp!

Moore vs Henne......





As sad as this sounds it's quite possible! And if it's happens I will have no problem picking a new team to support.

 

If I can survive AJ Feeley versus Fiedler, I can survive this.

 

I'd rather Flynn over any of those guys.
Flynn will step in and start Day 1. It shortens the time if he's a bust and we don't waste a draft pick.
If we draft one of those guys and they bust, we are set back 4-5 years and a 1st rounder. If Flynn busts, we are only set back 1-2 years and zero draft picks.

 

I will also have no problem with you doing that.

 

Yet, will he be good as a starter? Matt Hasslebeck took a year to become a good starter after his time in Green Bay. He lost out to Trent Dilfer.

Taking one of those guys would only set back 2 to 3 years. Plus there is a chance that they will be better quarterbacks than Flynn due to the fact they are much more talented than him.

I also do not think you are considering the salary cap if Flynn busts. I believe Flynn busting would be much worse because he will get at least 20 million in guaranteed money.

 

Well that's pretty obvious. Nothing is guaranteed. But the success rate is much better. There's no debate there. So what's your point?

 

I am sure a large group of this sites fanbase would have no problem with people who ***** and moan about the Dolphins left as well. Wear your rosed colored glasses and think positive thoughts I tried for 15 years now and we still suck..

 

I disagree with that. Tannehill is 2 years away from even being ready to start. Dude is very raw.

 

Not that I would want to reach for a qb just for the sake of getting a qb. But I would be extremely disappointed if we can't get one in the first round. I'll only be slightly optimistic that whatever player we pick is a difference maker. But if we don't get a qb and take a lineman I might have to switch to being a Jets fan just out of spite.

 

How is the team set back? Nothing stopping them from trying to develop another qb either. Packers did draft Brian Brohm the same type they drafted Flynn

 

after RG3 and Luck which quarterback is worth a first round pick?

 

Here's what I would do: if you feel Luck or Griffin are franchise qb's then do what you can to trade up and get one. If that fails then look at whether you think Tannehill or Weeding is the guy. If they are then take boa, maybe OT, in round one and shoot for them in 2 or trade upback into one.

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IMO, none. At least not at 8/9.

 

Fair enough. But you get my gist. If we draft someone in the 1st it sets us back more than if we sign Flynn in FA. Agreed, or no?

 

Here is the logical choices at this point.

Trade an Arm and leg for RG III or overpay for Matt Flynn.. Thats the two most logical routes we have. Im fine with either route we take if they have the balls for either. If they do this and it fails Im fine with us trying.

 

I'm not sure there is one. Which is why I said we need to realize we're most likely stuck with a 2nd round prospect or a free agent. Unless Jeff Ireland decides to trade up.

 

I disagree due to the contract Flynn is going to get. If Flynn fails that is a lot of cap space eaten up. I think the risk to getting Flynn in FA and drafting a quarterback is about the same. If Flynn is less of a risk, it isn't enough to be significant.

 

So we have to find this years Andy Dalton (of course this years AJ Green wouldn't hurt.)

 

Well if Ireland thinks there's an Andy Dalton in this year's draft, he might better pull the trigger with our first rounder. Because there's no guarantee this year's Andy Dalton lasts to our 2nd pick. I could be wrong, but most think Andy Dalton went late last year right?