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Does anybody think we will draft a QB?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Marino13, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. houtz

    houtz New Member

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    Looks great for 2nd day quarterbacks. I wouldn't mind seeing any of those quarterbacks on our team.
     
  2. SMOKE

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    The snag is Cleveland won't let him go cheap. He's definately not worth the tender that Cleveland will put on him him, especially when we'll have the first pick. I like what I've seen of Anderson this year, but the jury is still out on him imo. At least when it comes to giving up high picks for him. I'm also not real excited about trading for another QB. It hasn't worked out well at all to this point. If Beck doesn't work out, we need to draft his replacement, imo.
     
  3. WaywardZest

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    Didn't Mueller say that he likes to take a QB every year? I thought I had heard that before.

    I would imagine that we take a QB late. Next year, Beck and Lemon compete for a starting spot, and the late round rookie plays scout team.
     
  4. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    LOL. Love the avatar. NIIIIIIICE. That's the thing that will interest me. It seems like Beck is going to need at least another two years to develop and I'm not sure how high his ceiling is considering how small he looks out there. I agree that it will be interesting to see if Randy and Cam are willing to address our weakest position after drafting Beck in the 2nd
     
  5. brent

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    Matt Ryan

    After the combine I bet he will indeed move to the top of the Draft Boards. I think is the next Great QB. Looks like Peyton to me.
     
  6. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I think or at least hope he's wearing a Phins uniform next year. Best prospect since Cutler IMO. (Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell have more upside but also more downside)
     
  7. brent

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    I hear you.

    Brohm is somewhat injury phone.

    Colt I think is overrated.

    But Matt Ryan can make every throw in th NFL. He also has really good pocket instints, when to move to buy another split second. Oh yea.....Look who he was throwing to at BC. His Recievers could break any big plays for him, no YAC.
     
  8. DeDolfan

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    Flacco is bigger than any of them. Got a cannon arm and has pretty good poise. Rarely gets rattled. Biggest knock may be his mobility however he does have decent speed tho.
     
  9. Jsbaugh

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    Damn, when are you going to realize the Fins are not going to take Ryan, so stop riding this guys jock. Oh and Cutler hasent done crap so lets not compare the two.
     
  10. Fin Fan In Cali

    Fin Fan In Cali Dolphin fan since 1970 Luxury Box

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    Bro easy on the smack.
     
  11. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Yeah. He throws one of the best fades you'll ever see. Would be a great combo with Ginn. You're right too about the talent level. The guy has nobody on that offense helping him out and he still got them to a bowl game. Unbelievable
     
  12. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    OK great oracle of the draft who are the Dolphins going to draft. And yeah Cutler has just looked horrible his first 18 games
     
  13. big0mar

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    i didnt know ginn actually ran fades...
     
  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    LOL. He doesnt. But i would expect him to run more than the fly next year as he gets more comfortable. Although usually used for running backs you can use receivers. Just have Ginn stop in the flats and then fade down the sideline with the QB rolling out. I think Ginn's speed would make this an interesting and effective option down the road
     
  15. Jimmy James

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    I'm not going to even bother reading this thread because I care more about recording my prediction somewhere.

    Miami will spend a first day pick on a QB. The reason why is that Miami needs a QB even if Lemon is retained and because a team really needs two viable QBs so it's not a tragedy to get a 2nd or 3rd round QB if Beck pans out -- it's simply good policy to have depth there.
     
  16. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Forget Brohm and Ryan. Borat is our QB of the future. :lol:

    If we do address that position, it might be nice to address the lack of a safety valve for our receiving game. Rivers had Gates helping him out, Eli had Plaxico and Shockey, Palmer had Chad Johnson. Romo has TO. Roesthlisberger had Ward and Plaxico. Cutler has Marshall and Walker.

    Otherwise the youngster has no where to go for help. It's one of the reasons Beck failed in his attempts. Ginn's a home run hitter, hardly a consistent go-to guy as of late, Hagan's in and out, and Booker's production is minimal. All new QB's need a dependable, experienced guy who can compensate for bad throws or throws that are high or in traffic and be available (i.e. open) when the heat is on.
     
  17. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Yeah. We have to get some other options right now. Receivers I'm hoping we get DJ Hackett as a compliment to Ginn. I also like Bryant Johnson but he wouldnt be the safety valve you speak of. Dr5aft wise New Mexico's Marcus Smith and Coastal Carolina's Jerome Simpson could be gotten on the 2nd day.

    We need a Tight End but I wouldnt draft one until at least round three. I like Rucker but I'm not sure he'll last that long. Maybe Dustin Keller or in the 7th round you could take a flyer with Mike Peterson from NW Missouri State
     
  18. SarahAnn

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    Yes, but not until a late round.
     
  19. Awsi Dooger

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    I didn't see any QB with top pick ability. Not even close. Ryan and Brohm are somewhat limited athletically and neither one has a great arm. I'd hate to depend on them threading 3rd and 10 passes into the teeth of a top defense.

    For one thing, it's always foolish to get carried away with someone who is a late bloomer. For a top pick you want a kid who was always birthrighted to be a star, someone who would have been the first pick at every level and coaches didn't dare keep him off the field. Matt Ryan is hardly from that mold. He redshirted as a freshman and basically didn't play until starting half the games as a 3rd year sophomore. That's the type of pick who will absolutely kill you, when you expect someone who was struggling a few years ago to suddenly be a godsend. There was a reason he wasn't on the field. That's the way I always look at it. He's got limitations and they are destined to show up again. It's like pretending a horse who recently was a maiden or struggling in the allowance ranks is truly a super horse and will sweep the classics.

    Likewise, I'd avoid Brennan altogether. This is a guy who bounced around until he found an ideal system.

    I'm sure we'll take a QB. That's Mueller's theory, as someone else mentioned. Get a guy with the basics -- arm and height and smarts and touch -- preferably someone who was highly rated at one point but circumstances combined to push his performance level and reputation below where they deserve to be.
     
  20. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Hackett would be perfect but he has yet to stay healthy. Other than that, only options are a trade. Draft-wise I would consider if available Sweed, Bowman, or Kelly early in the 2nd round.
     
  21. FinSane

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    I can name several QBs who dont fit that theory of yours. Late bloomers like Tom Brady(6th round pick man!), Kurt Warner(wasn't all Vermeil/Martz), Trent Green(late, late bloomer), Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisburger(only had a good senior year and was overlooked by some on draft day). Not to mention guys who were heralded all the way until their careers flopped: Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Ryan Leaf, Ken Dorsey, Josh Heupal, Josh Booty....
     
  22. adamprez2003

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    I dont even know how this theory of yours applies to either Brohm or Ryan. These guys have been playing well for years. Are you saying only QBs who started as freshman should be considered for the NFL? Ryan had a great sophmore season, played through ijuries in his junior year and impressed enough GMs in his senior year where he's almost guaranteed a top five pick, first overall if we pick him. Brohm was Conference USA's Freshman of the year even though he didnt start because Lefors was ahaead of him. Neither has a cannon but both have more than adequate arm strength. These arent Chad Pennington arms. Have you watched these guys play?
     
  23. adamprez2003

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    If Sweed somehow dropped to the 2nd I would jump all over him. Bowman will probably go round 3. Is Kelly coming out?
     
  24. NaboCane

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    no one knows if beck will pull out of his tailspin with an entire offseason of study practice and camps after having a year in the league. or if he will be just terrific.

    but i do think it would be wise to invest a pick at some point in the draft; maybe second-day, but if anyone interesting falls, even in the 2nd.
     
  25. Big E

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    You cant give a qb half a yr and give up hope on him. Plus look at what he has to work with. We need a qb, but not a starter, well, not an immediate starter. The way Qb's drop in the NFL having a solid Qb core doesnt seem like a bad idea.
     
  26. Stitches

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    Bounced around until he found an ideal system? What the hell are you talking about? :confused2:
     
  27. billsfaninpeace

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    Erik Ainge in the later rounds. That is exactly what I hope the Bills do as well
     
  28. finswin56

    finswin56 Get a mop

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    St. Augustine
    Same guy I've been thinking of for a while now. Accurate with a pretty strong armed passer who has played in a pro style offense; not someone that would need to adjust from a spread attack. I like him a lot.
     
  29. billsfaninpeace

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    Best thing is he was going to be a high pick until this year. IMO..

    I think you are getting great Value in the later rounds heck could be the next elite QB taken in the 6th round
     
  30. adamprez2003

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    Its so funny but the two best rounds to draft QBs in the last ten years are the 1st and 6th. Both have an approximate success rate of drafting a very good franchise type or near franchise type of QB of about 25%. No other round is even close with a few actually having 0%
     
  31. finswin56

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    Not that I know much about where these guys should be drafted, but I would be surprised if he lasted that long. Anyway, I hope we get him and you don't. You have enough QB's ;)
     
  32. Regan21286

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    I don't know if Bowman will go round 3. He's been consistently stellar and has proven himself a go-to WR. The only questions are speed (though he seems pretty decent in that department) and his recent injury. I'd consider him Calvin Johnson lite. And he has been amazingly consistent. Gets his 6 catches almost every game (300 in one game too). True, his competition isn't that great but he's fared quite well against teams like Texas and Oklahoma.

    Bowman highlight against Alabama.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIySCyAAFfE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIySCyAAFfE[/ame]
     
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