I don't see what the big deal is here, I think this is blown way out of proportion. This is professional football in Miami and they are honoring a school in Florida, a school that has a ton of players in the NFL. People are just making a mountain out of a mole hill here, its silly.
I still think this is way worse then if the dolphins end up 0-16 Miami is a bigger canes town than dolphins town
It's still better than the proposed "National Illuminati Day" in San Francisco. Where the cult will be honored at halftime by having Steve Young ritualistically sacrifice a homeless Raiders fan over a red and gold pentagram with the sharpened tibia of Bill Walsh. Not that I mind that but instead of using the blue angels to do the traditional flyby, they're gonna use unmarked jumbo jets to chemtrail the stadium with the ashes of Al Davis...That's just wrong.
I am a University of Miami season ticket holder and what Dee did, does not bother me one bit. In fact all those in South Florida who will be able to sit at home and watch the game tomorrow should be thanking Dee. Because without this tribute to the Gators, this game would have been blacked out in the South Florida market. Dee was smart enough to realize that fans would not show up to watch two losing teams without having another reason to attend the game. He came up with the idea of honoring the national championship Gators with Tebow. Now the game is on local TV. Like it or not, Dee is responsible for getting as many fans in the seats at Dolphin games as he can. This was a very intelligent marketing concept by Dee, as far as I am concerned.
pretty myopic to think that this "stunt" made us the laughing stock of the NFL. We've been the laughing stock (except for our wildcat season) pretty much since Marino retired. In the last 5 years, I'd be hard pressed to think of another team that has been more embarrassing than ours.
If you think its intelligent to become a distraction to your own football team, an embarrassment to your own players and a lot of fans, and hurt the image of your franchise from a national perspective, we have different ideas of intelligent marketing and how to change a culture.. The goal of mike dee is to change the culture inside the stadium, and in this town, this promotion is doing the opposite.
From high school football to professional football, it is all about the money. Why do you think the better high school football teams in the nation travel thousands of miles to play another team? College coaches get paid millions of dollars a year to put fans in seats and get their team on television. The NFL is all about the money. That is why so many rule changes have been made over the last several years to protect the QB. The owners realize that to get fans in the stadium, they have to keep their most important players in the game, as much as possible. Since the QB position is the most important position on the team, the owners have changed the rules in a effort to keep their big money players on the field. Owners say these rule changes for the QB, along with other rules changes, have been made in an effort to prevent injuries. While I agree that the owners don't want their best players injured, these changes were made more for the protection of the bottom line, than they were for the concern for players safety. To most of the owners, players are nothing but a commodity, which once used up is merely replaced by another commodity. Since the vast majority of us played football at some level when we were younger. We remember playing football for the love of the game. So fans generally look at the game from a very myopic viewpoint. As a game, many fans get to relive their youth by rooting on their favorite football team. Fans see the game from a perspective which is far different than the owners of NFL football teams see the game. To owners, it is first and foremost a business, in which their ultimate goal is to make as must money as they can. Most owners prefer to have a winning team because this is what puts the most fans in the seats. But when all is said and done. Win or lose, all that really matters to the vast majority of owners in the NFL is whether or not they made money during the year by owning their team.
DJ, I was upset when I first heard of "Gator Day" and posted as much. I've read and heard local and national media, analyst, and players calling the promotion embarrassing, very bizarre, hard to believe, etc, etc. It's just something new to give some another chuckle when talking about Miami Dolphins football, and that's not going to change this year. Like it or not, it's something that has to be accepted. The game is not blacked out, and that is a good thing. With that in mind, I'm wondering what we can come up with for the Wash, Buff, and Oakland upcoming home games to fill seats. Howszabout a "Welcome Back Beck Day?" Any other ideas?
lol..lets just make ''no life'' the first duet stadium..We can make it like the red river shoot out every game with the opposing team...''No life'', the first neutral site stadium in the NFL..
The game is not blacked out due to the Dolphins and top sponsors purchased the remaining 3,000-5,000 tickets left.
It's not unusual for teams and sponsors to do that with that number of tickets. We did the same with 10,000 tickets for the Houston game. It was said that was very difficult to do, and not to be expected again. The estimated 20,000 Tebow Tickets sold, after he was named starter, is the reason the game is on TV.
Here's a point from a gambling perspective. When the betting line opened, Miami was favored by 3. Most know that 3 points is a standard given to a team playing at home, regardless of how good or bad a team is. Now, it is a pick'em game. It's rare to see the point spread change that much. It's almost as if the home field just vanished.
and that were looking at Tyrone culver and gerald alexander getting playing time...The broncos absolutely 100 percent will have the home field advantage in our stadium....lol...whatta fuc%in joke..
I am, because that's who is complaining about this. If you're not a UM fan, you might be the first person I've seen who really cares about this at all who isn't. They continue trying to make it seem It's not a matter of deserving, it's business. UM didn't want it on it, and I don't see why they should get any deference. They're a tenant in a shared stadium, that's it.
DPate, what I'am sayin is, the decision was wrong, because of how it could affect the image of the culture..and to me that's important when your trying to change the culture..The intention of this decision was based on an enemy player coming into our stadium and be celebrated, with full intention that he would bring ticket sales up, which in turn would be putting his home team in a precarious situation by having more fans that will root against the home team.. http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/22/2467020/get-ready-for-the-weirdest-fins.html
Maybe it's because you're the only one that thinks it's a big deal. Just from reading this thread, it seems like the most you've talked about doesn't apply here as most of the people in this thread could really care less.
I care about the image of this franchise, guess you don't, will you be wearing your SFL TSHIRT 2maro?
It's just a symptom of what a total ****ing joke this entire organization has become, denying it means you have aqua coloured glasses on. I want it gutted from top to bottom.
so do I, doesn't have anything to do with what Iam talking about, or why I'am against the promotion of it.
While I can understand some miffed Canes fans at the local level, I really wouldn't worry about this being a significant embarrassment on any national stage, particularly in regards to the Dolphins. I'm far more objecting to the hoards of Jet, and Patriot fans, the dreaded ilk of our immediate division rivals, who swarm the stadium annually, and sap our home field like locusts.
I think the bottom line is that DJ thinks that honoring the Gator's Championship season has something to do with the Dolphin's culture or national perception while most others don't. The only others who are complaining are (some) UM fans.
Raf, everyone is gonna be watching this game, and because of the situation, {the stadium being filled with the opponents fans in unprescedented inordinate fashion} your really going to have embarrassing national publicity onto your city and franchise...I'am not sure why I'am the only one that really bothers.
Speaking for myself, it's b/c that's the situation whenever you have a losing team. On Jet's week we have more Jet's fans, for example. In this case we have two really bad teams. I see it as either having empty seats or fans in Tebow jerseys. I don't see it as any more embarrassing to have a bunch of Tebow jerseys than a bunch of empty seats. In fact, I would say it's less embarrassing b/c Tebow is a rock star. If he fills the stadium then it's more about him than about how bad our team is.
*sigh* No, we don't. You're one of those posters I don't skip, I read everything you have to say. And with all due respect, I've never seen this happen and I go to most games. Sure, there might be a lot of Jet fans...or Steeler fans, even if we never play them. But the whole "more opposing fans" is pure crap.
I dont like the promotion either, but the stadium would be even emptier than it is right now if it wasnt for the promotion.
I'll admit to the exaggeration, but the analogy still applies. I don't think there will be more Tebow fans than Dolphin fans either.
Iam looking at the big picture and how perceptually things can bleed into your culture and have a negative affect on the players.. Pouncey quote'' Its hard to play at home when there is no homefield advantage, its gets you down'' Ross and Mike Dee did have the foresight to see what kind of damage something like this could be perceive by everyone including his own players.