I feel the same way. I'm not going to be at the game sunday actively rooting for Denver or cheering poor dolphins play. I'm just going to enjoy the hopefully beautiful weather and accept whatever result happens
Apropos of nothing, if there really has been a change in how Steve Ross thinks of Jeff Ireland, and it's not all Armando-fabricated nonsense, then I wonder if seeing Orton get benched in favor of Tebow has anything to do with it. From all the reports it seems to be pretty well corroborated that Ireland set up a deal for Orton and was willing to pay the $9 million but Ross vetoed it because he wasn't convinced that a Kyle Orton deserved that much money unless he's a franchise starter which Ross didn't view him to be. I wonder if Ross didn't set up this Gator Day figuring at the very worst even if he was right about Orton not being a franchise starter, if Ireland was willing to pay the man he probably won't be benched for Tebow by Week 5. Between Jeff's continued faith in Chad Henne and his willingness to prop up Kyle Orton as if he's a genuine franchise starter, and the reports that Ross is tired of backup QBs painted up as starters...maybe this is why Ross could be distancing himself from Ireland at this stage.
All speculation obviously, but it could be true. I tend to believe Ross isnt the idiot many people on here claim him to be and he realizes Ireland simply has not done a good job. In many fronts.
Isn't that what happened with Miami 2008 tops AFC East and after that reality sets in and here we are.
I don't think Ross did anything that isn't done in business, you get your replacement before you get rid of the guy in charge, in the NFL the press is watching your every move. I'm sure he learned his lesson.
Jets need to can Shotty and bring in al better Qb....will be interesting to see if they use their top 15 pick on a QB.
I have 0 hope for this season and agree with everything you say here, but why am I wanting to protect the image of my team and others want to bring signs to the game, or call a radio station and profess their stupidity? These media pundits are twisting everything on us, their now saying on first and ten that we are the leaders in the SFL campaign, they actually think WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE TEAM TO LOSE ON PURPOSE..their fu^%in idiots...thats not what we want, being ok with losses is different than wanting the team to lay down and lose on purpose...They can't even get the intention of the fan right, they actually think were asking the team to lose on purpose, un freakin believable.. So now your dolphin team is now associated as the franchise that is leading this campaign as they call it.. I will say it again, your defaming the image of your team...Do you enjoy this publicity?, do you not care?.. There is a reason why the national media is coming down hard on us, and imo its 2 fold, 1 the behavior and attention the fanbase got this offseason which was completely embarrassing, and 2, The national hate for Lebron James...
I can't control what the media does or doesn't do. And I find it hard to believe my talking about Suck for Luck on this website is somehow feeding a media narrative. All I can control are my actions, which have no bearing whatsoever on whether or not we end up with the first pick or whether or not Luck decides not to play here. It's not my personal style to boo the fins at the games or make up signs to get on tv. But if that's somebody else's thing, then I can't criticize them.
In todays world of social media, things are different, what never changes, are human beings emotions...They just showed 1 dolphin fan's facebook page, on national tv, and did 5 minutes on us being a disgrace to our own history..your words have impact and if you haven't noticed, are feeding a media narrative big time.. Schmoot, folks can sit here and say its doesn't make a bit of difference what is going on here perceptually and how our fanbase is acting, but what if it does man, and if there is a chance of it happening, then why not just keep the rooting interest more low key and with a bit of class, for the sole reason to protect the image of your team. I truly hope that you and Des are right, and I'am simply over reacting here, but I'am not gonna embarrass the name.. People who Bood Chad Henne in practice were not only wrong from a football standpoint, they were wrong to bring that attention to our franchise..
They may have been poor fans but the fact is that Chad Henne controled that process going forward. All he had to do was win games and the booing and media attention to it would have been put to bed! For Good! Just as Elway and Fox are treating Tebow. This kid will prove either them or denver's fan base right, its all in his hands. if he fails then Elway is a happy guy and he looks like a fair minded man, if he suceeds then the fan base is happy and Elway still wins and starts to build around Tebow's skill set!
Thats correct, Lefraud it shall be..Des wasn't the only one that had that guy pegged... I noticed something 2 years ago when it came to that player, pressure directly affects his hands, and his mechanic's on his jumpshot will never prove to be clutch because of the hitch he has on release..His meltdown was predictable...nervous hands...not good in the game of basketball.
Except for all the times he WAS clutch against Boston and Chicago, right? I think I'm in the majority here when I say: **** WHAT THE NATIONAL MEDIA SAYS ABOUT MIAMI. RT if you agree.
You are correct. I meant 1-6. We started 2006 off at 1-6 after winning the last 6 games in 2005. Either way, the point is the same. Going on a good run to end this season does nothing useful for this team if it blocks us from Andrew Luck or Landry Jones
Comes and goes X, but you can't deny that it came hard in the finals, he was exposed, and pressure affected that man...are you gonna give him an excuse for giving up in his last year in cleveland against those celtics?
Uh, no. Like how Detroit started 2010 2-10, won their last 4 games (without Stafford), and carried that momentum into 2011. Comparing our 2005 team to 2006 is a such weak argument, but nice attempt though. First of all, you have to take the coach involved. A better NFL coach might've taken that 2005 team to an 11-5 record. Secondly, 2006 was a different team than 2005. There was a different OC & DC, 3 different starting QBs, a carousel at Oline, no Ricky Williams, and Chambers wasn't the same.
He stopped being LeFraud when he stopped trying to be Michael Jordan. He was never MJ. Different skill set.
That's an inaccurate statement b/c we're not a veteran team. If we win 7 of our last 11, it will have meant that players came together as a team and showed development, you know---- since we're a team full of YOUNG players. I'd rather finish 7-9 and see our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year starters show improvement & promise than finish 0-16 with a team that regresses or shows no signs of development. Scenario A means we'd have something to build on. Scenario B could potentially mean a ground up rebuild. I love how you want to see the development of Mallett, a QB drafted later than Henne, but didn't want to show the same patience with Henne when he was finally able to be a QB rather than just a puppet carrying out Henning's ****ty plays.
Sure it does. Simply multiply yourself by tens of thousands and the media will take notice, just as Dansby & Luck have already taken notice even though we've only played 5 games. How bad will it be after another 8 weeks and we're hypothetically still losing? If you want to contribute a perception that players despise and the national media uses as a punch line, then that's your prerogative. There's nothing wrong with respectfully & maturely discussing the future of this franchise and potential changes that may occur after an abysmal season (including Luck), but that's entirely different than a Suck for Luck campaign, rooting for your team to fail, and counting down the losses till Luck Day. Do you think the fans of the 1972 Dolphins would've acted this immaturely if Miami fell apart in '75? I doubt it.
So now Nick Saban isn't a good coach? As for the starting QBs. What will our QB situation look like next year if we finish 7-9? Jeesh, I cringe at that thought. Would much more closely resemble the QB situation for the 2006 Miami Dolphins than the 2011 Detroit Lions, wouldn't you say?
if this team can turn itself around and finish 7-9 and add a good HC, then Henne and Brandon Weeden/Griffin lll wouldn't be the worst options in the world.
The worst option would be to keep Sparano and Ireland imo ... this team needs leadership and results from the people entrusted to deliver.
henne deserved patience, but he never really showed anything spectacular. he doesn't have good instincts and awareness. he got better this year being aggressive, but his accuracy has barely improved.
Fair response, but answer me this. Prior to Harbaugh taking over in San Francisco, would you or anyone else for that matter have considered Alex Smith a "franchise" quarterback?
I'm sure the 49er's thought the exact same thing about Alex Smith last year. They're 5-1 to date...with Alex Smith as their starting QB. Just saying.
Even now, NO ONE considers Alex Smith a franchise QB. The 49ers have improved....in a weak division. I think we should hold off a while before we crown Alex Smith. He's getting better though.
They also added that competent coach that Miami wasn't able to add because of Jeff Ireland (Jim Harbaugh). Their defense is also a LOT better than ours is. Alex Smith is a better fit in Harbaugh's offense than Henne would be; but you're fooling yourself if you think that Harbaugh wouldn't prefer to get Andrew Luck in a 49ers uniform if he could. In the realistic, long-term future of the Dolphins, going 7-9 or something like that THIS year, is the worst thing that could happen. The way the roster is constructed is just poor, and I believe the best thing to do is to rebuild the front office, starting with Jeff Ireland being ousted. There are still players that are scheme-diverse enough to stay on the roster for the next coaching staff, but unfortunately for Todd, I doubt Chad Henne would come to mind. And why would Chad Henne want to stay in Miami? I'd think he'd want a chance to start elsewhere.
Michael Lombardi, who is pretty tight with Harbaugh and also interview for the 49ers GM position. He gave an interview with Joe Rose earlier this week. CK had an outstanding summary of it in Club earlier, but I'd think the link is still active. Rose asked him about the Dolphins seeking advice for Mangini; why they couldn't land Harbaugh (Lombardi indicates it was because of Ireland); Andrew Luck; and some other things.
Yea, I read and listened to the interview. I didn't get that from the interview. From what I understood, it was because he didn't know Ireland and wasn't familiar with anyone in our organization. That's what led him to Sanfran, despite the offer being lower.
I love this team with all my heart, we are not turning anything around. We have horrible coaching, we are still out of shape, the worst safety tandem in football and no pass rush....in a passing league. Oh...Matt Moore is our quarterback. For the life of me I can't find 3 wins on our schedule. The entire franchise is a disaster area. Go 1-15, fire EVERYONE, go get a GM/Head Coach combo, draft Luck. Any other combination is just delaying the inevitable.
