3rd down and inches - AND WE THROW THE BALL DEEP????!!

I think we got that covered.

 

If you can't take anymore of this then don't care at all.

 

Honestly, that was not a bad call by Daboll. The bigger issue is Matt Moore. Why is he throwing the deep ball when he has the flat threat wide open? It drives me nuts when quarterbacks work very hard to make the big throw. Settle for the easier throw and let your players make plays. People say Tom Brady is the standard at the quarterback position, and it is something I agree with. You know what Brady does great? He knows who to go to and when to go to them. In that situation, you have to dump it off. Brady is excellent at that. Manning is excellent at that. Brees is excellent at that. Should I continue?

 

Matt Moore is not Brady

We already knew that

 

When two players names are put in the same sentence or paragraph, it does not immediately signal a comparison being made. Perhaps its a contrast? Maybe you will understand now.

 

It's clear that Sparano knows that this offensive line is incapable of any push at all when the team needs a yard or two. That is why we throw on third and one. Everyone knows that. The question is why he keeps running the same plays with the same personnel and keeps expecting a different result.

 

I believe the definition of that is "insanity"

 

Kinda makes you wonder why we traded Lousaka Polite, huh?

3rd and short...Polite was money!!!!

 

How many times have we seen a promising drive end on 3rd or 4th and short when they should have ****ing converted? How many points has this team THROWN AWAY over the past however many ****ing years? I'm so fed up with this.

 

funny last year I was reading complaints on how Miami kept running the ball.

 

I was one of the ones complaining that we WEREN'T running the ball.

Don't know who was posting those complaints. Only complaints I remember reading last year was all on Henne.

 

the counter argument is that Clay would have scored us a TD earlier in the game if Moore would have looked up from his first read. the guy was wide open waving in the friggin endzone. Polite could not have done that. Our problem is not necessarily our weapons, but how we're utilizing them (or not) and the crappy QB that is Matt Moore

 

Which is precisely what makes this a bad call, mate. Sure, if the call was made in a vacuum, then it has some merit. But it was made by a Matt Moore led 0-4 team in 4 down territory. Give it to Moore - who is a backup QB for a reason - and missing wide open WRs becomes part of the equation. It's a nice little call when you have Tom Brady behind center. It's a really dumb idea when you have Matt Moore. Just run it twice (heck, it was inches, just QB sneak twice) and live to play another three downs.

And it drives me equally nuts when play callers work very hard to make the smart call instead of the one that has the highest probability to produce the desired outcome based on the personell available.

Daboll called plays like this all the time in Cleveland, too. Sure, you can look back and say, creative dude, some nice little tweaks, some gutsy calls, but the game doesn't award points for good looks.

 

We didn't trade him though. We just flat out released him.

The playcall wasnt bad, the execution was. The first down was there to be made.

 

It appears that the entire team has jumped on the, suck for Luck", bandwagon. Because if there is one obvious fact after their first five games this season, it is that the Dolphins truly SUCK.

 

And in the end zone it was either Clay or Hillard that were wide open. Moore does not see the field at all.

 

The play was not "throw to Marshall deep", it was a series of routes in which one was chosen by Moore incorrectly. I don't really care who your quarterback is, he should be able to find and complete a pass to Hilliard in that situation, back-up or not.

 

The execution was poor. However, the call makes little sense if Miami doesn't go for it on 4th and inches from the Jets 40. I was completely OK with the call at that point, but then flabbergasted at the decision to punt. Was there communication between Daboll and Sparano there about the call on 4th down? There should have been. The play was there and had Matt Moore seen Lex Hilliard on the highest percentage of passes, he would have picked up 15 yards at the least.

 

Well, if you are going to risk the throw on 3rd and short you have to be willing to then go for it on 4th on short if you do not make it, Sparano was not willing to do so.

 

Yep, your o-4, so if you try and pass on third and an inch in Jet territory and don't make it, you go for it on 4th and an inch.

 

in 08 and 09 and 10 he would have went for it, in 11..0-4..we punt?

WTH to Sparano?>

 

Didnt mind the 3rd down play. As soon as it was done, first thought was, they are planning on going for it on 4th down. Extremely disappointed when I saw the punt team come out.

To me that was the perfect opportunity to say to the players, the Jets, and everybody else, that we are here to win. Line up on 4th down and punch them in the mouth and get the first down. If by chance, they didnt get it, then to me it shows that you are telling your defense that you have faith in them to hold them at the 40 yard line and get the ball back.

Instead it looked like a total lack of any confidence in the offense to pick up 6 inches, on what could have been 2 chances to get it. All that money on the offensive line, and dont have the belief they can get that first down. Says alot.

 

It's also funny that at the same time with the ball in Jets territory we punt it. 45 seconds to go in the half, one time out (yeah, I can't figure how we even have one left either) and we run out the clock. On a third and twelve, dump it off to Bush.

 

The play call would have worked if Moore actually looked off the primary read and went to Hilliard who didn't have a Jet within 10 yards of him.

 

It Was actually a pretty good call lex hillard was wide open and had atleast 10-15 yards if matt Moore sees him but instead he locked on Marshall early and didn't let go. Just put in Devlin and see what's he's got

 

3rd and long, we throw the ball 2 yards.

 

Was Moore ever not locked on Marshall when he dropped back to pass? He was having flashbacks to Steve Smith in Carolina.

That guy makes Henne look like Brady.

 

It's not a bad call, simply put. One could argue that the odds were higher they would get the first down doing it the way they did, than running the ball. Its not a design fault, it's not a play call fault. If you have a quarterback that can't find his outlet/leak, then you know what, you need to consult the guy who is hiring these players to play for the team. And frankly, it wasn't the first time Moore missed an open receiver. He's terrible.

I agree with you, but that's not the case.

Execution is the bigger problem in this case.

 

I think if the wr is that wide open down field then you have to say in this situation the play worked, it just wasn't executed properly.

 

It is no sure thing that Clay would have made the catch even if Moore had seen him and passed him the ball. Clay was wide open later in the game and Moore threw him the ball. What did Clay do with the pass which was right in his hands? He dropped it of course. The fact is that the majority of the players on the Dolphins fail to make the big play when it is needed. That is the reason this team is one of the worst teams in the NFL.

 

I'm not trying to start anything, but is it ironic that this team has a plethora of former Dallas Cowboys, and they struggle to step up when needed?

 

Actually, I'd have been happy if we threw the ball deep, but they threw a 15-20 yard out.


But the whole basis of this call should be that you have decided to go on 4th down. It makes little sense if you don't.

 

Like lookin in a mirror...covered with crap..haha

 

I am certainly no fan of the Cowboys but the fact is that the players the Dolphins now have, which used to play for the Cowboys, are players the Cowboys didn't want anymore. The fact that Ireland has signed so many former Cowboys and they have been ineffective for the most part, merely shows how inept Ireland is as an NFL GM.

 

Sparano doesn't understand logic.

 

It was said over and over that Moore was locking on to his primary receiver, but that one attempt at a side line pattern to Marshall was as obvious an example as you can get. Hilliard was as wide open as anyone could be and he was between Moore and Marshall who was closely covered on the pattern. Hilliard was in Moore's direct line of sight between he and Marshall, but he was so locked on Marshall that he couldn't see a wide open receiver with no green jersey's anywhere close to him. This offense has gone from bad to just plain "inept".