Merged x 1 Billion: All Things 'Suck for Luck'

Luck has one of the best lines in the FBS, I believe they were rated #2 last season overall. He has all day to throw, rarely gets any pressure. He would be KILLED by our line.

 

Come on dude, everybody knows the Pats have had one of the best lines in the NFL for years. That's common knowledge. It all starts with the line, that's why Parcells took Long.

 

Are you saying you would rather have Henne?

 

I would rather have Henne with the best O line in the NFL, than have any other QB and the worst O line.

 

Did you see how much time Rivers had today??? He barely had any pressure the whole game.

 

Oh stop already.

 

Why can't we have Luck and a great O-Line? We want a complete team, that's how you win a Super Bowl. We have Jake Long (who will be healthier in 2012) and Mike Pouncey, if we get some solid players with them the O-Line should be much better. QB is still more important anyway. Look at the Colts. They have a pretty good O-Line, an all pro center, and they suck now that Manning is gone.

But we still need to draft a QB in the first round. 1983....that's the last time this franchise did that. It's about damn time. If we get a top 5 draft pick and draft an offensive lineman I'll cry.

 

Just face it.

 

Well, it seems to me that Colombo was not the issue in this game, S and Cb was, we get Vontae back and Jones is either benched, or the staff is happy to be fired for his poor play, but Clemons will solve that issue as well.

imo, the players are there, for whatever reason, imo coaches are playing favorites, they won't play them or they are out with injuries.

 

I would rather have Luck and so should you but I will not root for the team to lose just to get him.

 

EXACTLY!!!

How bad would the Raiders be if they didn't draft Russell #1 or the 49ers draft Smith or the Texans draft Carr or the Browns draft Couch or the...

 

There's no denying that a Qb is the linchpin to a great offense, it seems as if guys like Peyton Manning can win on will alone.

 

Ah yes, let's discount the importance of QB because of a few busts. How come you don't cite QBs like Manning, Rapistberger, Rivers, Rodgers? Oh wait. We've neglected the most important position in all professional sports for almost 30 years. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. It's a passing league. An elite QB covers up a TON of warts (see: 2010 vs. 2011 Colts).

 

Yep I agree 100% but I really hope we get luck over the other guys.

 

Bingo

 

Are you saying that a #1 draft pick QB will suddenly turn this franchise around and immediately put points on the board so that we don't have to worry about the rest of the team's sloppy play?

How is that working for the 0-4 Rams who have scored the 2nd fewest points in the NFL (23 less than Miami)?

How about we stop the delusional thoughts of acquiring the next savior Marino as if he's some sure thing despite never winning a SB? How about we focus on what we DO have rather than what we don't?

 

Young man! You need to learn some respect.

 

Because every other position is guaranteed to produce an all star except QB? No, you're right, let's not even try. I like your plan!

 

You draft a frachise qb and build team around him.

 

Manning, Big Ben, Rivers, Rodgers...only ONE of the players listed were even the first QB taken in that year's draft let alone taken #1.

Did I say I don't think it is wise to draft Luck? NO! Does Luck look the part? Oh yea! If the draft were today of course Luck is the guy to take.

However, drafting a QB does NOT make a good football team in and of itself. There are MORE misses in the 1st round than hits on QBs if the criteria is to get to and win a Super Bowl.

There are numerous examples of FRANCHISE QBs coming out of college that set a franchise back.

Let's see...Marino was the 6th QB drafted, Montana taken the 3rd round, Brady in the 6th round, Brees in the 2nd round...

6 of the past 12 starting QBs for the Super Winner were NOT 1st round draft picks and 13 of the past 24 starting QBs in the past 12 years were NOT 1st round draft picks.

Drafting a QB with the #1 pick DOES NOT guarantee the football team is going to be good. Take a look at the Rams right now.

Take Luck with the #1 pick if the draft were today...ABSOLUTELY. Would Luck make the Dolphins a good team? Nope.

 

Yes that is exactly what everyone is saying. We draft Andrew Luck and then just pass on the rest of our picks because we are set. We can pass the next few years as well for good measure. And we can just ignore FA. You hit the nail on the head there!

Under no circumstance do we need to waste valuable front office time attempting to build a team around a franchise QB with "other draft picks" and "free agents".

Luck means Super Bowl year one.

 

And 15 years ago one of the best QBs in NFL history never won a SB. QBs don't solve all the problems. Never have, never will.

Marino was in 4 AFC Champ games in like 16 years.
Sanchez has been in 2 in 2 years.

Just saying. How 'bout we hold ourselves to a higher team standard like NY does and try and win more games as a team since a future elite QB isn't guaranteed. (or else most of the NFL would be on that waiting list).

 

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I wish this werent true, but I've seen 3 Rams games this year, and if there's a team that's actually more inept than the Dolphins at this point, it's the Rams. Their offensive line? Worse. Receivers? Bottom of the barrel. I'd like to give Steven Jackson some sort of credit, but it'd be completely based on his past accomplishments. That team is flat out horrible. Bradford was hit or pressured on over half of his dropbacks today - I'm not making that up. I know the Dolphins just lost their 4th game this year as well, but they're not as bad as the Rams. No one in the league is.

 

So if you had the number one pick who do you take?

 

Adam, this is like a replay of last year where half the fan base thought Ryan Mallett would be the answer who immediately turns this organization's sloppy play around. Now he's presently the 3rd string QB who cant even win the backup role.

 

Because what we do have isn't getting the job done. I'm not saying that getting a Qb is the end all be all, but you have to start somewhere. We have tried getting better recievers, drafted and aquired linemen, and for what, all the same problems remain, we can't punch it through in the red zone, at some point you do have to look at the one position that touches the ball every play.

 

We're talking about the same Jets team who seemed to feel the QB position was important enough to trade up for right?

 

I t hi some of you are forgetting that Luck is not the only qb in this draft . Laundry Jones , Brandon Weeden who had a real bad game vs A&M but that wasnt his fault. the reason I love Weeden is that he has a quik relese and is a real good leader plus his experince would fit in and it wouldnt take long to get himup.

my point is we dont have to take Andrew Luck but we dont need to keep drafting 1st rd picks on the oline either we need to start drafing the best player period

 

I'd be trying my darndest to NOT be drafting #1 in the first place considering the talent this team currently has. I'd want to win now rather than be a fair weather fan praying for us to lose so that maybe, just MAYBE 1 guy turns an ENTIRE organization around.

We're not a #1 draft pick team. There's no excuse for us to be playing like it.

If we play our asses off and still end up picking #1, then I'll absolutely be welcoming Luck..... but I'll STILL be holding the rest of this team and organization accountable for finishing last in the NFL despite the talent we have. Luck doesn't change crap unless this team and organization become respectable. The sooner you understand that the better my friend. Bradford looked like the most promising QB drafted since Rodgers, yet his offense is being torn to shreds.

 

Who cares if they traded up. They didn't make it to the AFC champ game twice b/c Sanchez was playing like Marino. Don't do that bro. Don't disrespect what an entire team & coaching staff did 2 years straight despite one of the worst QBs in the NFL during that time. It doesn't matter if it's the Jets; just don't do it man.

 

Well would you draft luck or not with the number 1 pick.

 

Because what we don't have is keeping us from winning. That is a good QB. We have a chance to acquire a special one, so we should be thankful.

 

Were taking a QB come April. New coaching staff new regime new face of the franchise. We are getting a new QB.

 

Yeah... Dan Marino didn't have a defense to carry him like the Jets have with Sanchez. Nor the running game. And the Jets are NOT getting back this year because their D is suspect and their running game is trash. Unlike Marino, Sanchez can't carry an entire team to 4 AFC championships.

ATEOTD, Miami has had numerous QB since Marino retired and none of them were good long term answers for the MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN ALL OF SPORTS. And yet we actually have people on this board arguing against drafting a potential superstar at the most important position of all. I don't get it... It's like living in the twilight zone. Miami is clearly a team with tremendous problems at multiple positions. QB talent on the roster is clearly average at best. And since it is the most important position in sports, you have to address it. Once that happens, you build around. Does it always work out? No... There are plenty of busts at the QB position. But you miss every shot you don't take. Risk vs. Reward. Simple, right?

Miami needs to rebuild again... AGAIN. And unlike the 3-4 other times we've rebuilt since the Marino era, we need to start doing things the right way. That means no more hand me down QB from FA, 2nd round, trade, whatever other dumb **** we always do. We suck, we're getting a top 5 pick, and we should draft a QB. Hopefully Andrew Luck.

 

You mean not Ronnie Brown?

 

Or Ted Ginn? lol.