http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...ractice-cb-vontae-davis-returns.html#comments Eh, Vern C is back, not sure if that is a good thing, JT being down...not sure about it, he looked fine in the Texans game, wonder if he was knicked in the browns game?
I hope Jason Taylor sits out this week. I'd like to see if Koa Misi could get more pressure if given the opportunities. People joke about Koa Misi being "Koa Missing" but the simple fact of the matter is theyr'e not letting him rush the passer. Hard to get sacks, hits or pressures when you're in coverage or only on the field for run plays. Meanwhile Jake Long will have the pleasure of going up this week on passing downs against the player Miami should have signed rather than Taylor. Antwan Barnes has 2 sacks, 1 hit and 2 pressures on only 30 pass rush snaps. That's Cameron Wake type pass rush production, except he does it from over left tackle instead of over right tackle.
Crowder mentioned Dansby is playing injured, but he was a full go at practice today. As for JT, I thought it he did fine in the Texans game, nothing in the Browns game, which suggests to me he is dinged, at his age I'm not sure if he should play unless he is 100% as his talent has come back down to earth to the point that 80% JT may not be better then a Ike Francis/Koa Misi combination.
Thanks for reminding me about Barnes... Actually, not sure which is worse, reminding me now during the week or being reminded during the Charger game when he beats our Pro Bowl LT for a hit on Henne? hmm...
The latter will be 10x worse. Especially if Jason Taylor is hurting a little but they force him into the game again and he produces a goose egg as far as getting any kind of pressure on the QB.
It's ironic that I've been talking about how the Patriots game was kind of fluke-ish and for the last two games the defense has indeed played pretty well, when the defense is about to be torn apart by Phil Rivers and Vincent Jackson.
Well, funny to me that he is working with the second teamers though, as was Chris Clemons. JT has 4 tackles and 1 sack, Barnes has 3 tackles 2 sacks and a FF, not sure about pressures, so atm Barnes does have the advantage but not an overwhelming one.
Jason Taylor has played like 250% more snaps than Antwan Barnes this year...and has less production. When the Chargers put Barnes on the field to rush the passer, they get to be fairly confident that he's going to do an effective job at it. When the Dolphins do the same with Jason Taylor, he's not. Bottom line.
They do not play him as extensively as JT plays, for a reason, Barnes is a hand in the dirt player, JT has more responsibilities when he plays. You have access to PFF, what is the actual differences in pressures? Otherwise Barnes is 1 sack and 1 FF up on JT.
I already stated Barnes' stats. 2 sacks, 1 hit and 2 pressures on 30 snaps. You can add the FF in there I guess. Jason Taylor 1 sack, 3 hits and 3 pressures on 70 snaps, and you can add in the defensive off sides penalty that was accepted. The Dolphins are putting Taylor on the field a lot more than the Chargers are putting Barnes, but it's not because Jason has some great array of responsibilities. About 75% of JT's plays have been pass plays, which is almost identical to Antwan Barnes (77%). He rushes the passer 23 times for every 1 time he drops into coverage, which is actually more one-dimensional than Antwan Barnes who rushes the passer 10 times for every 1 time he drops into coverage.
From a production pov, meaning the bottom line, a sack and a FF is the degree of difference between them. Eh, if Barnes had the number of plays that JT had the situation would be clearer, however at the bottom line, how many sacks and pressures, there is not much difference.
But Pads..back in 09 when everyone in the world could see that Wake was more effective than JT and JP combined, we used the very same snap/situational stats that CK is using to back up his claim. Fact is that Barnes is more effective with fewer opportunities.
Disagree simply because more chances does not equate to certainty that Barnes would continue the pace he is on. Which means the most apples to apples comparison is simple production. Now if the argument is who will the more productive player 2 yrs from now, or even next yr, that is a different proposition and one that Barnes would and should win as he is much younger, but potential is different from production.
If Barnes were forced to stop the run consistently would his stats transfer at a reasonable rate like Wake's did from 09 to 10 or would they completely dip?
For the sake of this season I don't think it would matter. JT is a situational guy, Barnes is a situational guy. Barnes just so happens to be a much better situational guy.
You don't know until you try. Not that it matters. I recommended signing him to play the exact role that Jason Taylor plays for us now. Like I said, they both come in on passing downs. In Miami he would have been in on more of those downs though. If he got as many pass rush snaps as Jason Taylor, his projections say he'd have 5 sacks, 2 hits and 5 pressures. We don't have Jason Taylor out there defending the run. Koa Misi is out there on those downs. Jason Taylor and Antwan Barnes do the same job. Antwan Barnes just does it better.
The Chargers just placed Strong Safety Bob Sanders on Injured Reserve... ...the Dolphins have suddenly and mysteriously excused Strong Safety Yeremiah Bell from practice today for 'personal reasons'... ...the Dolphins and Chargers have a history of trading with one another... ...am I over-thinking this one?
They can't pull him off the IR can they? Or perhaps they can if they're another team, I don't know. By the way I hand't considered this but with the return of Clemons they may decide to put him back at FS and put Jones at SS.
Whoa, what? No. I'm not saying the Dolphins are trying to trade for Bob Sanders. I'm suggesting that the Dolphins and Chargers may be in negotiations with one another over Yeremiah Bell and this could perhaps be why Bell is not practicing. With Sanders going on IR, the Chargers have a need there. They had Steve Gregory replace Sanders against the Chiefs and he's not very good. The Dolphins are 0-3. They are 3 games behind the Bills and 2 games behind the Pats and Jets. Playoffs are not an option anymore and they know it. Time to start seeing what some of the young ones have. Everyone keeps talking about how Reshad Jones would make a better strong safety than free safety. With Chris Clemons looking like he's returning to health, perhaps it's time to find that out. Yeremiah Bell didn't do himself any favors. He was basically the guy that aired Jason Taylor's locker room speech to the media. Other players confirmed it but they may have taken their cues from Yeremiah and thought it was OK. He's supposed to be a leader and yet there he was this weekend getting a Roughing the Passer penalty late in the 3rd quarter.
Gotcha. For whatever reason I immediately thought you meant swapping safeties. I'm not the brightest bulb. I can certainly see what you mean. Slide Jones to SS (where he should be anyway) and give Clemons back the FS...move out YB and get something..anything for him.
Anyone know who we cut in order to make room for Steve Slaton? Also it should be noted that the Chargers didn't fill Bob Sanders' roster spot with another safety, they filled it with DT Tommie Harris.
I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps it's after this week's game that they'll make the move. I would have been surprised had you made that kind of error. It would make some sense for perhaps a fifth round pick or so and the Dolphins did like that other safety they cut a while back. What do you think of Reshad Jones at SS. He's the prototype on paper. Blitzing skills, tackling, makes plays, a good man coverage safety that has some height to take down a TE with that vertical leap.
someone posted in the the slaton thread that we cut ryan baker for him, CK is your sig accurate in terms of draft order ? do we own the 1st pick atm ?
Did Taylor get hurt in the Cleveland game? I'm pretty sure his stat line was all zeros. -Ed- sent from my EVO 3D
I suspect he did, he was doing rehab stuff on the side today and did not practice. The week before he looked good vs the Texans, 1 sack and a couple of pressures.
Yeah we're looking at a relatively small sample size here. That 5 sack projection is just plain silly. So I guess if he averaged the same amount of pass rush snaps as JT over the course of a full season he'd finish the season with over 20 sacks... Does anybody in the league have five sacks right now? Did any of Barnes' pass rushing snaps come against Joe Thomas? I see no need to use ridiculous projections to smear the only Hall of Famer we'll see in aqua and orange for the next decade or so. We get it, he ain't what he used to be.
Well, that also means Colombo was a full go, as was Carey...hmm...just..hmmm JT supposedly had a day of rest, which is not something I recall him doing previously, Sparano maybe lighting a fire under JT?
I can certainly see Bell being traded, one of those older guys we could move (along with Starks). But not before the Chargers game After? Speaking of trades. Would you trade Wake to the Pats if they were going to overpay for him? By overpay I'm talking at least a first and third.
Wake to the pats would be a bad trade, they figure to pick in the late 20's, which is sort of like a high 2nd rd pick, the degree of talent back there is not worth such a move.
I agree Pads, a late 1st is the same as a 2nd. I remember 2-time Super Bowl Champion Jimmy Johnson made a comment that after the first 15 picks in the 1st round, the players are basically the same. Not much difference from #16-thru the end of the 3rd round.
