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Dolphins Sign Two; Release Four

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Styla, May 5, 2008.

  1. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    http://www.miamidolphins.com/newsite/news/top_story.asp?contentID=5806

     
  2. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Hah, I was just about to post that, but decided to check the 2nd page first to make sure it wasn't posted. I come back to the first page, and here it is.
     
  3. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Yep, Reece is out (he shouldn't have dropped all of those passes) and Wright is out. Wright was semi-surprising, but I suppose that with the amount of LBs we had on the team, he just wasn't showing what he needed to in order to justify his position.
     
  4. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Im glad it was Abe instead of Rod Wright that was released, that woulda made things awkward.
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I figured this was coming. I'm surprised Abe Wright wasn't released sooner; he just doesn't fit with what Parcells wants to do.

    Scorpio Babers continues to embody the few things that annoy me about the Parcells regime right now.
     
  6. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    He shouldn't have dropped all of those passes. We've already got Hagan to do that for us, we don't need anyone else ;)
     
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  7. SuncoastFinsFan

    SuncoastFinsFan Banned

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    This is professional football. Everyday is judgement day. With Bess impressing, you better show that you have the talent and concentration to play in this league. Reece did not show that.
     
  8. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It was make or break for an undrafted free agent, bro. Unfortunately your boy didn't perform when given an opportunity, hopefully he does well elsewhere.
     
  9. TheMageGandalf

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    I thought he might stick due to special teams but I guess not.

    Oh well, at least Scorpio has a cool name :lol:
     
  10. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    And that would be what?
     
  11. Finominal

    Finominal New Member

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    Wright was a seventh round pick that was part of the Wes Welker trade.
    So what we really got for Welker was Samson Satele.
     
  12. calfishman

    calfishman Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wish we had never made the trade. Not that Welker was not worth the 2nd round pick, but I think it would have been more valuable to us to saddle the Pats with twice the salary cap hit rather than receive the measly near last pick in last years draft. I believed that last year at the time, and would probably feel the same if Wright was still on the team.
     
  13. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    That's reversed - we would have been the ones hit with the cap stick due to the tender the Pats offered. Damn poison pills :pity:
     
  14. calfishman

    calfishman Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No, I was saying just let the Pat's take Welker with their original offer( something like 30 mill over 5 years). We still get the second round pick. What we did was trade him for the 2nd and 7th. Once the Pats had Welker for the one year tender they negotiated an extension of something like 5 years/15million. We were never going to keep Welker. The trade saved the Pats like 15 million and we got an extra 7th round draft pick.

    I felt a huge extra cap hit for our division rivals was worth more the extra late 7th pick. I believed it at the time, and particularly now since the pick is no longer on the team.
     
  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Refusing to draft a corner; refusing to seriously address the position at all in the draft or free agency; targeting players with odd names.

    Right now, our starting corners are Will Allen and Michael Lehan. Allen is a great #2, while Lehan is a nickel back at best. We lack a true #1 CB, and it's going to hurt us in this division.
     
  16. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Ah, I see what you're saying - but them signing Welker to the original offer wouldn't have hurt them at all. They had plenty of cap space, and Welker was quite amiable with a different contract.
     
  17. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

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    I'll make that deal every single day of the week. A very good C > a very good #3 WR.
     
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  18. jdang307

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    If I'm not mistaken, and I'm going off hazy memory, I thought that inflated contract was the poison pill part. In other words, no huge cap hit would have come if he signed the Patriots contract. Then when he came in, he would have to restructure the last couple of bogus years or just get cut.
     
  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    IIRC, there was also a provision in there that if Welker played more than 3 games in Dolphin Stadium the contract became fully guaranteed.
     
  20. calfishman

    calfishman Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Again, The Pats made a substantial offer of approx 30 million to take our tendered player. They had to make a huge offer that we wouldn't match and was greater than what the Vikings would offer. We were never going to match that offer and We would get New Englands 2nd round pick because of Welker's tender status.

    Mueler than negotiated a trade that gave NE Welker with the one year tender salary( about a million) for the 2nd we were already getting pluss the 7th round pick. Because NE owned Wes for the next year with a dirt cheap salary, Welker negotiated an additonal 4 year extension. His final contract was 1/2 what New England originally offered.

    Welker for a second was a done deal with the Pats initial offer. What Mueller's trade did was save New England about 15 million over the next 5 years for a measly late 7th round pick. A pick that probably wouldn't amount to anything, and is no longer on the team

    In the end we need to concern ourselves with Miami. Miami will get better by making Miami better and Mueller did get an extra pick. But having watched New England be a thorn in our side for the last decade, wishing for anything bad( aside from a player injury) to New England is good for Miami. Contract numbers are tricky, but we gave NE an extra 1-3 million per year of cap room for each of the next 5 years. During the recent offseason negotions, what do think the gap per year between Moss and NE was.
     
  21. calfishman

    calfishman Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wasn't aware of that, but that may have been the case. His initial contract seemed alittle high. But still NE must have gotten some value, otherwise they wouldn't have given up the extra pick.
     
  22. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    That's the part I didn't expand upon. Also, Desides got close - it was a 5 game in Miami poison pill contract. They didn't have to pay him anything, and even if they did it wouldn't hurt them.

    NE could very well afford to splurge on a slot receiver like Welker. Bastards always have more draft picks than they know what to do with.
     
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  23. calfishman

    calfishman Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I see. I feel a little less bitter about Mueller, but I hate New England even more.
     
  24. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    It was still Randy's dumbass fault for not hitting Welker with a first round tender. We could have possibly gotten Quinn and Ginn.
     
  25. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    We would have taken Ginn and someone else, or traded the pick.
     

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