Bill Cowher only interested in joining a team with a really good QB situation?

This is really interesting on a bunch of levels. It definitely assuages my fear that Cowher won't look for the best QB play possible. But how do we know he's as high on Luck as the rest of us, or that he'll consider starting Luck as a rookie to be the best QB situation he can step in to? I know he started Big Ben as a rookie but still.

I really want to know more about how he'd approach personnel, especially with this persistent Omar Khan rumor floating around.

 

When you pull back to get some perspective on our situation, the one thing that becomes apparent is that it sucks to be us, more than any other team, I think.

If we keep Sparano and keep losing, we risk alienating the players and fanbase to heretofore unheard-of levels, even for a team which has had Dave Wannstedt, Nick Saban, Cam Cameron and Tony Sparano at the helm the last 11 years.

If we fire Sparano and it rallies the team to some unlikely wins, we would only hurt ourselves since Henne is NOT a deep-playoff/Super-Bowl Quarterback and we'd be a bad team picking in the late 20s next draft.

If we fire Sparano and win a few games but not enough to make the playoffs, we screw ourselves by being a bad team picking around 15th next draft.

And if we lose and lose and lose, even that might not be enough in a world with someone as unscrupulous as Pete Carroll in it.

God damn it.

 

He didn't start Big Ben. Charlie Batch was the starter but suffered an injury in the preseason. Big Ben was promoted to the number two spot, behind Tommy Maddox. Then in the first game of the season, Tommy Maddox suffered an injury in the 3rd quarter. Big Ben took over, and never looked back.

What if we don't land Cowher, but we draft say, Matt Barkley. Will he be good enough?

 

It already feels like 2007 again and we're only 0-3 right now. Feels worse actually, because there is little hope and no direction right now. I just don't feel like we'll lose enough games to get Luck. They'll probably win 4 or 5 games...which wont get the #1 pick.

 

In the end, Big Ben made it out there.

And Barkley is perfectly fine. May even be a better QB than Luck in the end.

 

I've chosen to loo at this as....Wohoo, an interesting offseason is coming.

 

Yeah, anyone with the first pick in the draft next year will be able to get any available head coach it wants. Luck is a perceived Golden Ticket.

 

As a result of injury. Not because he had the balls to start a rookie.

I think we end up with Barkley, Jones or Luck, he'll come. This team has talent, especially at the skills positions. It'll be more than enough for a QB to come in day one and start.

 

If it is true what this article insinuates, that Cowher only wants to go to a team with a good QB situation, I wouldn't want the guy if that is his thought process..If your not willing to take the position and tasks that come along with it, and do what you have to do to win the championship, then your showing holes in your committment level to the process..

The question I have is, what openings might be available that cowher has interest in, or any openings for that matter, and do they really have to be geographically correct?, and if so, doesn't that narrow it done to us? lets see, east coast teams.

Jets..nope

He's mentioned the giants... probably not gonna be an opening.

Carolina...nope..

Atlanta..nope.

Washington..probably not

Those are the only teams on the east coast..

Well, Jacksonville might be in the hunt, and they have gabbert, and their closer to his home?

I just think its a red flag on his committment level if he really did say that no?..

He would be my first choice if this regime change happens so I hope he didn't say that.

 

Hmm...sounds to me like the coach understand you have to have good players to be successful. I'm shocked..shocked I tells ya.

 

Well, if there's any truth to this report, I'm not interested in a coach that needs to be handed an ideal situation to take on the challenge of coaching again.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure what the attraction to Cowher is. While he is a better coach than what we have had since Jimmy, Cowher is simply more of the same......i.e....play it close to the vest, run the ball, limit mistakes in the passing game, play defense, and win in the kicking game. Bill Cowher doesn't strike me as a guy who understands the direction the NFL is going in when it comes to offense, and as a result, defensing those offenses. Where is the adapability?

Plus, unlike Jon Gruden, I don't see Bill Cowher having yearly meetings with Chip Kelly, Urban Meyer, and Will Muschamp among others in an attempt to pick up new, good ideas from the college game. In fact, I highly doubt you would see much spread at all with Bill Cowher as the head coach.

 

As opposed to pulling a 2011 Colts and yanking some QB off the scrap heap to start? Cowher went forward with Roethlisberger rather than dress a veteran for the sake of dressing a veteran. Give him some credit.

We have pretty good WRs, but I think you're overstating our 2012 roster a little bit. For example, the right side of the OL is entirely vacant in 2012; Carey is a free agent after his contract was redone, and Colombo simply will not return. We have a left tackle and a center, but our left guard may get Carey'd and have his contract redone out of nowhere, assuming the new coach even wants him around at all. (Wouldn't blame him; Incognito is pretty average even with the MMA training.) We have no depth at TE, and Fasano will be halfway through his extension. Hartline will be up for a new deal as well.

Frankly, I think a new regime will have its hands full immediately with trying to fill in all the starting spots Jeff Ireland's negligence has left open.

 

well said.

 

First of all, "Suck for Luck" is a really awful idea. "Can't miss" draft prospects frequently do, and I realize that the draft bobbleheads are expressing that they're really, really serious Luck is can't miss, but it frankly doesn't mean a whole lot in the context of history. The "best prospect since Peyton Manning" tag affixed to him should be note enough considering Ryan Leaf was 1B to that.

I don't know what job Cowher is expecting to get if it's true unless Kubiak is fired.

 

We're already getting excited for the offseason... I'd pay... cold hard cash for a year in which the offseason was not the highlight of football for me.

 

I'd worry if Cowhers heart is truely in it or not. Its not a half *** possible job. I KNOW Gruden would be in it.

 

Is Cowher also only interested in joining a team with a HOF defensive coordinator?

 

I would rather have Gruden. He really believes in Henne.

 

He also really believed in Chris Simms..............

 

Which is why he doesnt have a job right now, he's not a good talent evaluator and ran the Tampa Bay franchise into the ground with his personnel decisions...great coach though.

 

Cowher: "Yeah, if I had to settle for a place to end up, I'd pick New Orleans or Green Bay. Either will do."

 

Its baffling to me how people can want to bring in a guy like Cowher. The biggest problem this franchise has had over the last 15 years has been putting faith in a singular person to bring success to the organization.

 

I don't think Gruden had personnel decisions. It was originally Rich McKay and then Bruce Allen.

 

It was well known in the Tampa area Gruden had personnel decisions.

 

Well, when Gruden took the Tampa Bay job, he inherited a situation that was salary cap hell and a team that didn't have a first round pick in his first two years there. His drafts there weren't that bad. A lot of the players they have had some success with recently were guys he and Bruce Allen drafted.

Personally, I would love to see Gruden brought in and for him to bring Ruston Webster in as the GM.

 

It just shows that Cowher gets it, and we should focus on what this implies.

Cowher knows that in order to have success, you need to have a stud QB. Cowher couldnt get over the top until he got Big Ben. The QB is more important than the GM or the coach. Just look at the Colts. With Peyton, they are a playoff team with a genius coach and GM. Without Peyton, they are a team picking in the top 5 of the draft.

I really dont care who the coach and the GM is as long as the realize first and foremost that they need to find a QB for this team. That is the number 1 priority.

 

There is a reason why Gruden is out there trying to sell himself as an NFL HC.

 

Problem for Cowher is going to be teams with great QBs are going to make the playoffs or play well enough to not get their coach fired. If this is really what he wants, he must not want to coach very badly.

 

I brought this up on my radio show last week, what do you guys think about Tony Dungy ?

 

I would love Gruden to, as I've said I think he's a fantastic coach. However, I would only like him if we have a GM over him with full control. Gruden was not a good personel guy. At all.

 

I thought about him too...I just can't see his heart being in it...

 

There are flaws, sure. But, we have more than enough for a rookie QB to come in and play well. Marshall, Hartline, Bess, Fasano, and Thomas.

 

I want whatever coach is out there that can have a chess game with Bill Belichick and win.

 

I'd love to have him, but I don't see him returning to coaching. Good thought though.

 

If he wanted to return to coaching, **** yeah.

 

No it means he values the QB position and would like to go to a team where he has a good chance of being able to take care of that position right away. Because he knows nothing is more important than getting your QB. He'll have his choice of jobs, he's earned that. Why would he take a job that puts him in a harder position to acquire the most important position on the field? Why would he do that when there are alternatives? As of right this moment Bill Cowher doesn't owe the Miami Dolphins jack **** so I'm not sure what commitment has to do with anything. I will be thrilled with any new regime that values the QB position because I'm sick of people in Miami bargain shopping for it.

 

I've watched the kid play a lot. He is the REAL DEAL HOLYFIELD... the real mccoy....... the real....i ran out of cliches.

As good of a QB Prospect in past 15-20 years as anyone else, easily. Including Peyton Manning.......... some people had doubts he would continue to succeed after losing key staff members and some key players on the team, and yet Luck goes out and still does it.

 

This is correct.

Bruce Allen actually had final say over the roster. But Gruden was heavily involved and won out plenty. It was a weird dynamic.