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Throw Sparano and Season under the bus?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Triggercut, Sep 22, 2011.

What should Ross do?

  1. Retire Sparano

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  2. Hold to the Bitter End

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  3. Don't Care Anymore

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  1. Triggercut

    Triggercut Well-Known Member

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    What do you guys think... After a couple more losses should Ross force an early retirement to Sparano, and via the confusion, put Miami in the running for Luck/Barkley?
     
  2. aesop

    aesop Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
  3. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    ..can't find my unclick button..
     
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  4. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I don't really care what they do with Coach Dummy. I bet he picks up a couple wins to save his job over the next month or so, but the end result will be the same mediocre pile of 7-9 garbage. I'm for whatever is best for us to hire the best candidate at the end of the season. If firing Coach Dummy sooner makes that happen, then I'm all for it.
     
  5. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I wouldn't make a decision until the season ends. Would probably lose a good portion of the locker room firing him mid-season, and I don't really see much benefit.
     
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  6. thisperishedmin

    thisperishedmin Well-Known Member

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    We might be on the path to loosing most of the locker room by mid season anyway...

    Not entirely sure what to think at this point...I dont think this is a winning regime though. That much is becoming clear.
     
  7. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    If you take a look at recent examples of mid-season coaching changes, then canning an unsuccessful HC put the teams in question far out of reach of the #1 overall selection.
     
  8. Xiidaen

    Xiidaen Premium Member Luxury Box

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    ...because the next group of FAs will love to play for an owner who tells them to mail it in for a higher draft pick.
     
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  9. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I would have fired him 3 minutes after he said he was baffled and didn't have any answers. The 3 minutes would be needed for me to get all the cursing at him out.
     
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  10. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    This is for you.

    :bag:
     
  11. Triggercut

    Triggercut Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the sentiment, but if you haven't noticed there are at least 3 articles rounding the local newspapers suggesting the idea posted here. One with insider information that hints to just the mid-season firing suggested. Also, you'll notice that I choose to stay with Sparano through the season's bitter end, not because I have a bag over my head, but because mid-season firings rarely work out, and make an owner seem desperate (not that Ross didn't reveal that during the offseason).
     
  12. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    For a Head Coach to admit publicly after an 0-2 start that he doesn't know whats wrong with his team does not instill much confidence. I said last week that the Texans was a must win for them to restore confidence of the team and in the fans. It was also needed to show the team they could win a game and win at home. This week a win can restore the confidence of the players and begin to restore the confidence of the fans at least on the road that is. Another loss will erode more confidence and will tighten the noose.
     
  13. Larry Little

    Larry Little Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I heard the ultimatum was, if the Phins have a losing season, Sparano loses his job. If that's what Ross told him, 0-4 is not a losing season. I'd wait until the Phins lost 9 games, then let him go, respectfully. Ross would've held to his word.

    The very next thing I'd do is call Bill Cowher, Jeff Fisher, and Jon Gruden. In that order. Don't *****-foot around this time.
     
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  14. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, Sparano should've been fired after the 38-7 loss to the Patriots. Ross wanted to, but didn't pull the trigger when he didn't get Harbaugh, and his refusal to pull the trigger likely cost him Cowher. I'd just say at this point, it's getting harder for me to care, because I could easily see this team ripping off a few wins, only to choke again down the stretch to finish 7-9; which in my opinion, is the worst thing that could happen. Either Sparano gets it right, and turns this team around (highly unlikely) or you go down swinging with him. I mean, are Mike Nolan and Todd Bowles (whose been considered a HC candidate by a few teams, probably to satisfy the Rooney Rule sadly) really going to do something that Tony Sparano isn't if he's fired midseason to turn it around? Realistically in the AFC, the Dolphins probably have to go no worse than 11-3 or 10-4 to even have a shot at the playoffs this season. I just don't see it either way, so I've tried to make myself numb to it in hopes that Sparano and Ireland either make good on this season, or are ousted the minute this season ends.
     
  15. sws84

    sws84 Season Ticket Holder

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    If I were Ross, I would give Sparano the whole season because I doubt Cowher or Gruden would sign-on if we fired him now. I think after the Sparano fiasco last year Ross should be careful. A bad reputation as an employer could hamper his ability to sign the best available coach and setback any hopes we have for a competitive team.

    Steve :)
     
  16. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Man this Ignore button is getting a workout lately.
     
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  17. rtamigo

    rtamigo Season Ticket Holder

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    Well, if you take the quote out of context like all the publications did, sure. But in context, per Omar's blog-

    "The question was: How do you explain being 1-11 over the past 12 games at home?

    Sparano’s answer was: “It’s baffling to me, it really is. I don’t have an answer for it. We’ve just got to do a better job,” Sparano said.

    He then continued, without delay: “I told you before if you look back last year its turnovers, and a high turnover ratio. Today [vs. Houston] we turned it over twice and I don’t know if we [got a turnover] so its two more in the hole. Last week [against the Patriots] we wound up one behind, so you’re minus three in turnovers again, and those things [turnovers] hurt you. There’s some other things out there that we have to take ownership of. There are some things out there that we left out there on the field that we’ve got to take ownership of. It starts in practice and our team has to do a better job in practice.”

    DOES THAT SOUND LIKE: I DON’T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT?"

    Heck- we started the season with two of the best teams in the AFC. I expect a pretty big win this week. Actually I expect to be up 3-2 after the Jets game. My two cents. Vent away though.
     
  18. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I love it when people pretend to use the ignore button.
     
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  19. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I never understood what the love for Harbaugh was last Season, other than a new young face as a HC in the NFL...

    Maybe it was because none of the other ex-hc's were willing to come over to MIA... and maybe none of them are still willing to come on over, anybody thought of that???

    IMO, we still need some stability and all this talking (media, and fans) over the last year or so is showing up on the team's performance...

    This is a team who's players and coaches are in pins and needles, even if they say that they don't pay attention to what is being said outside of the organization...
     
  20. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    It would have been nice to have a football coach with an IQ over 85.
     
  21. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    If they go 0-4 or something, you still need to ride it out with him I think. Why promote a temporary interim coach like Daboll or Nolan? It might get a few cheap wins, but who wants that?

    At the end of the day if we fail he's going to look for a big name new coach like Cowher, Gruden, etc or give a well liked guy like Rob Ryan a shot anyway. Stick with Sparano until January, and if the team is 8-8 or worse than look elsewhere.
     
  22. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    I refuse to use the ignore button. Reading every post and watching the pain and some of the "opinions" on this board are both comical, sad, insightful and Shakespearian.
     
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  23. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Come on Monst there's nothing to support "how smart" our coach is other than your perception of him. I've never seen an article or even a mention anywhere questioning our coach's intelligence other than by members of this board.

    From the way that he prepares for games, including meticulous charting of statistics and play counts, I find it hard to believe that we should call his intelligence into question.

    Not everyone is going to be a mad scientist like Bill Belichek.

    If you want to criticize a specific part of his football management skills - say for example clock management - that I can get behind. But I don't think we would have hired him in the first place if he was Forrest Gump, despite the fact that he was annointed by Bill Parcells himself.
     
  24. DJ Teknision1200

    DJ Teknision1200 New Member

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    Why should we tank for Luck? Is Henne the reason why we are losing now?
     
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  25. pitted151

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    I say get rid of Sparano no matter what. Even if we go 9-7! He's a below average coach who never should have been fast tracked to HC. Huge mistake by the overrated Bill Parcells!
     
  26. pitted151

    pitted151 New Member

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    Ask yourself this. How were the Indianapolis Colts before Peyton Manning?
     
  27. DJ Teknision1200

    DJ Teknision1200 New Member

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    Hey I also like Luck, but the problems we have go deeper than just QB. We need new leadership. The things I've seen this season (players not conditioned, 12 players in the huddle) goes on the head coaches table. I use to back Sparano, but it looks like he is over his head with this job.
     
  28. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I know this isnt the smartest fanbase in the league but how blind are you to think that QB is the only need we have?
     
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  29. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    I quadrupled my number of people on my ignore list. From 1 to 4.

    Or even the main need at this point. Our biggest weakness through 2 weeks has been our secondary. Followed by our O-line. Then comes Linebackers.
     
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  30. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I have another solution.

    Ross makes Tony gain every pound of weight back. Fat Tony was a good coach.
     
  31. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    If Ross fires Sparano before the end of the season he will always be an also ran as a NFL football team owner. I hear the prime candidate for Sparano's job is the DC of the worst defense in the NFL. Doesn't he already have enough on his plate already?
     
  32. Stitches

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    There made the playoffs 2 of the 3 years prior to Manning's arrival (1995 and 1996).

    They made the playoffs in Manning's 2nd and 3rd year (1998 and 1999), but not 1st or 4th.


    The real question is, how much "better" were the Colts once they got out of the AFC East.
     
  33. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Romeo Crennell is the prime candidate for Sparano's job?
     
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  34. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    This year?
     
  35. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Well he is commanding the worst defense.
     
  36. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Miami WILL NOT be in the running for Luck, we are much better than the Colts, Chiefs, and Seahawks. I'm okay with Ireland staying on, but Tony has very nearly worn out his welcome. The OL is still a mess, the players are only now rounding into playing shape, and the Tony still cannot manage his timeouts. I'm fine with seeing what Nolan can do with the rest of the season if we go 0-4 before the bye-week. The players will be motivated since they must now impress the next coaching staff to remain part of the team going forward.
     
  37. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    That's a close call. I expected way more from Nolan's D than has been on display so far.
     
  38. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Shouldn't Sparano know whether or not his team forced a turnover off the Texans? I mean, seriously...come on.
     
  39. Jaj

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    Root for the Dolphins this weekend or no....? Ya can't go against them.
     
  40. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    If I was TS, I'd tell Ross to go Phuc himself. Thanks for the extension and after you left me out to dry, I'd take your money and run.
     

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