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The Lions building a better team then Miami

Discussion in 'SoapBox - Rants forum' started by jpep13, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. electrolyte

    electrolyte New Member

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    My comments were directed at LOTTERY picks.

    If you want to play semantics with me because I said "later rounds", it could easily just be understood as "later picks that are not in the lottery"


    and I will argue that Aaron Rodgers developed because he got to sit behind and learn everything from Brett Favre.

    Same with Tom Brady... sat behind, studied, and learned from Drew Bledsoe.
     
  2. texasPHINSfan

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    Henne sat behind, studied, and learned from Pennington. :up:
     
  3. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sparano worked under him in Dallas. Please don't tell me this is news to you Stringer!
     
  4. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Talk about not seeing reality. You must be related to Sparano. All he has said for the last three years is that all the problems with the team are fixable. Yet, they continue to stop drives with offensive penalties, and also don't seem to be able to go through a game without at least two or three penalties on special teams.

    If the problems with the Dolphins are as fixable as you and your buddy, Sparano, say they are. Please explain to me exactly why the problems which have led to the Dolphins being 1-8 at home over the last year are not fixed yet. You may think that my comments are emotional garbage, but the fact that I am one of more than 10,000 season ticket holders who did not renew our tickets this season, shows that there are thousands of Dolphin fans who also want Ireland and Sparano fired.

    Like you, I prefer to win games and build something. I just don't think Sparano and Ireland are effective in their jobs and as long as they are in Miami, the Dolphins will remain nothing but a mediocre team.
     
  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    How can I not see your posts as emotional garbage when you write things like that.

    Last season the Dolphins were the 2nd to least penalized team in the NFL.
     
  6. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    You remind of my best friend and his desire to see the Dolphins retain Sparano as the Dolphins head coach. Of course my best friend also happens to be from New York and is a fan of the New York Jets. He keeps telling me that Sparano really isn't that bad a head coach and that the Dolphins should sign him to a long term contract. Of course he always has a big smile when he says this, because he really doesn't want the Dolphins to actually hire a coach which can build the Dolphins back into a winning organization. Personally I think a lot of the people on this forum who are happy with the job Sparano and Ireland have done are secretly fans of the Jets, Patriots, or Bills. Because there is no way a real fan of the Dolphins could be satisfied with the job either one of these men has done in the past three plus years.

    You and Sparano both say that the problems with the Dolphins are fixable. Okay then, FIX the problems and start winning some games. A 14-19 record over the last two seasons and one game this year is certainly no evidence that he has any idea how to repair the problems on this team. He is suppose to be an offensive line guru and after four years to get it right. The offensive line is still one of the weakest offensive line in the NFL.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    See, there you go again. I am the one acting like a troll?

    Of course I think they are fixable. The Dolphins are a young team. Both 7-9 years came with tons of injuries and no Aaron Rogers to cover the problems. Plus Sparano isn't the offensive line coach, he is the head coach. I find this as a common mistake with people when they discuss coaches. Just because someone was good at something as a coordinator doesn't mean the problem will magically be fixed because he is a head coach.
     
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  8. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Again I state, if the problems with this team are fixable, then FIX them. Also I never said Sparano was a good offensive line coach. I merely said that he was suppose to have been a good offensive line coach. In fact, the last game I saw him coach with Dallas, I thought his offensive line looked very average. If not for Parcells, I doubt that Sparano would have ever been hired as a head coach in the NFL. Also, if he is not retained after this season by the Dolphins. I don't think he will ever be given another head coaching opportunity in the NFL.

    As far as the injuries you refer to as the reason for the last two 7-9 seasons, this again is nothing but another excuse. Injuries are part of football and the best coaches find ways to adapt, even when these injuries occur. Other than Long, who continued to play when he was injured, I don't remember any major injuries on the team which would account for the teams 7-9 record last season, and especially their 1-7 record at home.

    I get it. You think Sparano and Ireland have done a great job and they should be given the benefit of the doubt. I don't agree and obviously there are thousands of other, FORMER season ticket holders who also don't agree with you.
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    You do not think having the entire front line injured isn't major or having to play the third string center?
     
  10. jw3102

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    No, I think you are just looking for excuses for the lousy coaching job Sparano has done. As I stated, injuries are part of the game. Funny how the Packers had far more injuries to major players than the Dolphins but they won the Super Bowl last year. The fact that the Dolphins had back up players who couldn't come in and play effectively goes right back to Ireland and Sparano. Besides, the fact is that even before the injuries on the line, the Dolphins still had one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL.
     
  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Packers have Aaron Rogers.
     
  12. jw3102

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    You are correct, they certainly do. They also had back up players who could actually come in and play effectively in the NFL. Unlike the Dolphins who seem to keep back up players who have no idea how to play when they are actually forced to play in an NFL regular season game. This all comes down to the GM selecting players who can step in when the starter is injured. It is also the responsibility of the coaches to prepare these back ups as if they could enter the game at any moment.

    The Dolphins may not have Rogers, but the fact is that injuries are no excuse for going 7-9 and 1-7 at home last season. Bad coaching and terrible player personnel decisions are the reason this team is and has been only mediocre over the last two seasons. Sparano has 15 games left to prove you right and me wrong about his coaching ability. I hope you are right and Sparano is the coach you think he is. I just don't believe he is and therefore I just don't see the Dolphins having anything but another mediocre season this year.

    My question to you is this. If the Dolphins finish with a record of 8-8 or worse, do you still think Sparano should keep his job? Personally, I don't and unless the Dolphins finish with a record of 9-7 or better, I don't see how any real Dolphin fan could want him to return next year.
     

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