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Coaches talk up Bess

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  1. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Glad to hear he is focused. Very sorry to hear about his past but I am glad he has overcome his troubles. Seems like a good kid who will give it his all.
     
  2. slickj101

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    After having Wes Welker, I think the Dolphins know what he's worth and Davone could be the same kind of find," Zuckerman said.

    Dolphins coach Tony Sparano realizes that there is a need for a quick, slot receiver with Bess' "good ball skills," but suggested he improve his conditioning.

    I'm confused, did we not just trade that exact kind of player in Booker?
     
  3. Lt Dan

    Lt Dan Season Ticket Holder

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    No, we traded a running back...whole different ballgame
     
  4. High Definition

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    This is the guy I'm rooting for to make the team.
     
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  5. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Your his dad, you should be rootin shouldn't you?:lol:
     
  6. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Great read, it helps you fill in the blanks as to why Bess went undrafted. He's got all the tools, he's just got to figure out how to put it all together. I'm hoping he makes the team, out of all of our UDFAs, he's the guy that has me the most excited. I'd really like to see him make the team and contribute.
     
  7. alen1

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    I know bro, I feel the same way. I loved this guy at Hawaii. I am very pleased to see that hes doing good things, especially with us.
     
  8. alen1

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    :hi5:

    Heres another to him making the team.:hi5::ffic:
     
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  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Nice grab. Reminds me of Marvin Harrison's great hands and footwork in the endzone, specifically against the Patriots a couple years ago.
     
  10. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much. The difference between Booker and Bess, however, is the name of the person who drafted them.

    I suspect we haven't seen the last of the roster moves made for no apparent reason other than the fact that Parcells or Ireland did not acquire a player in question. The theme seems to be to bring in their guys, even if the new players aren't any better than the old ones.
     
  11. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    One other difference is that Booker was a 3rd rounder, while Bess is an UDFA. The other difference is that Bess will be playing WR, a position of need, while Booker was third on the depth chart at RB.

    I do agree that the FO is placing their thumbprints on the team; this is something that all new coaching staffs do inherently.
     
  12. DonShula84

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    I was hoping we'd draft Bess, so I'm glad we got him as an UDFA and it's good to hear that he's doing well so far. It's still early, but the guy always looked good when I'd watch UH games.
     
  13. Desides

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    There was nothing stopping them from moving Booker to WR. In fact, he probably should be just that. He's nearly useless as an actual RB in the NFL. He's too small to run between the tackles, just like Reggie Bush. Get the ball to him in space, though, and he's dangerous. So why not make him at WR? He's got the makings of a great slot receiver.

    IMO, there's no such thing as "value" on the football field. Value's a draft and contract thing. On the field, the guy either performs or he doesn't. UDFAs are a longer shot to make the team than 3rd round picks. Booker performed; meanwhile, there's no guarantee Bess makes the team. Remember, he's impressing at a rookie minicamp. Let's see how he does in July and August.

    Yes and no. Not everyone cleans house immediately. Yes, fine, we were 1-15 last year, but that was due more to bad luck, next a horrible defense, next an internal riot by a bunch of veterans angry that the team was being remade after they failed to perform. That doesn't mean you replace similar pieces just to say "That's my guy." Why can't the guy in place be your guy? Why does it even matter?
     
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  14. DonShula84

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    Maybe they didnt want to undertake the project of moving a guy from RB to WR on the chance he can become a good slot WR, and when a pick was offered for him they decided to move on?
     
  15. Vengeful Odin

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    I see what you're saying, but let me ask you this: Would you rather have Booker and nothing or Bess and Shawn Murphy? Murphy helps to solidfy our offensive line, while Bess offers playmaking ability at a fraction of the cost of Booker.

    Bad luck or not, the bottom line is that we were 1-15 and drastic changes needed to be made. That means cleaning house from the top down. Like it or not, I'm sure Booker won't be the last casulty of the Parcells/Ireland/Sparano trifecta. There will be other players, starters even, that get cut and cause us to debate the merits.
     
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  16. djphinfan

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    if you were a general would you like to pick your own guys to go into a battle with or take the guys from another platoon that lost the last battle they were in.

    bookers gonna be a star in that eagle spread offense, here he would of been the fourth receiver, also could'nt be our third down back because thats ronnies job.

    iam havin a hard time dealing with the booker trade myself but we did get a player in murphy who i think is gonna be a player
     
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  17. Desides

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    Question is, who solicited the offer? I can't exactly see Andy Reid sitting there checking out 2007 Dolphins tapes.

    Furthermore, I don't believe Booker moving to the slot would in any way be a project. All he has to do is learn the WR plays. He already has all the necessary slot receiver skills.

    Don't mistake me, I'm not saying having Booker alone would've been better than Bess and Murphy. I'm saying that it seems a change just for the sake of change, just to say "We got our guy in there." Bess may be better than Booker, but odds are he'll be dramatically worse.

    Unfortunately, yes. But I'll relent from the topic due to no one wanting to hear it any longer.
     
  18. Desides

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    George Patton kept a losing division's leadership intact for as long as he could, because he believed people needed to grow into the role of command. When he had to relieve commanders, he was oftentimes more beat up about it than the person(s) getting sacked.

    Furthermore, he hated pulling a losing division off the line because it removed the division's chance to redeem itself and retain its cohesive self-confidence.
     
  19. ATVZ400

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  21. SuncoastFinsFan

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    What an ignorant statement. I don't think anything could be further from the truth... ahem...JT still on the roster because the team wanted a first round and not a second round pick. Kind of blows your theory to hell and back, doesn't it Desides? If it was just about purging the roster, JT would be gone.

    Booker was a RB, not a WR. You may not realize it, but they are different. They require different skill sets. And RBs in the new offense all have to be able to run the base offensive plays. That wasn't Booker's strengths.

    And our draft wasn't about getting (or keeping on the roster) third down backs. It was about getting people in the trenches. So we basically traded a third down back for (by most accounts) our starting RG for the next five years.

    Not only was the trade not an act of narcissism (by only trying to keep players the new FO brought in) but when put in proper context, it made perfect sense.
     
  22. SuncoastFinsFan

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    Why should they keep Booker just to try the experiment of moving him to a new position? People who get paid big money to make these decisions didn't see the logic in what you suggest. Neither do I.

    The debate about Booker isn't about him vs Bess. Its about him and the pick we rec'd for him, which in this case is the RG Murphy. If you think that was a bad trade, so be it. I think you will find yourself on the lonely side in that debate as well.

    While you have the luxury of excusing our 1-15 record as "bad luck" and some phantom "mutiny", Bill Parcells and Co. have the responsibility to fix it. They aren't going to get rid of a player who is a sure bet to help them. That would be asinine. The bottom line is, professionals who have a PROVEN RECORD OF SUCCESS, believe that it was in our best interest to trade Booker and bring in an interior linemen.
     
  23. Dolfan4Life

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    Really sad what's happening in his past, i really hope he makes the team!
     
  24. Alex44

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    That's an amazing story.

    People grow up in bad circumstances and make mistakes, but he has put that all aside and become an extremely hard worker. This part says it all:

    Hopefully he keeps working so hard.
     
  25. dgb11112

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    I'm all for Bess. I watched my UGA boys pound Hawaii but saw this kid make great plays and he just kept coming at them no quit in this kid.

    He will become a fan Favorite to root for:hi5:
     
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    Satele v Welker part II, only instead of Abe Wright, we are looking at Devone Bess or Jayson Foster instead of Abe Wright, an Olineman + someone else vs a potentially very good NFL player.

    Samson really blossomed for us, Abe Wright was a non factor, Murphy is projected to start or come close to starting, and we haven't seen Bess or Foster play for us yet, it may come down to which player can return kicks better, and Foster is ultra quick.
     
  27. MS4FINS

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    If Bess performs well, I could see him replacing Hagan, which honestly won't be hard to do.
     
  28. Swampfox

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    Actually , I think Camarillo is his competition. Bess should be a slot receiver.
     
  29. Marino1983

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    I like the kid!

    The 2 impressive aspect's that Bess brings with him are his solid hands and his route running.

    Now how this translates into him being a success in the NFL is something that competition will only bring out..



    Marino1983
     
  30. alen1

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  31. Kanye West

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    I rally hope we sing him he would be a great pick up for us
     

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