The Judge doesnt set heavy instructions.......the instructions are the same on any crime that emcompasses reasonable doubt, or any crime for that matter...........as you said the state couldnt prove it, and they did a great job honestly with what they had....
This.... All it proved is that she loved cameras, social media (I dont know why), enjoyed slamming Taco Bell, peeing in parking lots, getting bent, and like to party.....wow.....stop the presses...
If you want to go around getting torqued up because Nancy Grace wants to ratings whore something, be my guest. Not my cup of tea.
I have never seen or heard Nancy Grace in my life. I'm not 'torqued' up, whatever the hell that means. I just give a **** that a little kid was murdered for nothing.
They found it in place that smelled like a decomposing body. Where else would they need to find it? What else smells like a dead body in a trunk, and would chloroform ever be found in someone's car under other circumstances? Serious question. The defense admitted from Day 1 that she was involved. IMO she just got really lucky.
Exactly... Should every child that is murdered have the same media attention as Caylee? Of course. My fear is that other mothers and fathers will believe they have a means to an end where they too can get away with murder. That is disgusting.
Gotta disagree with you there. Nancy Grace is not interested in ratings, she is just that much of an *******. She is a vile human being.
The ***** was guilty as sin. I hope she dies a slow horrible death stemming from a horrific accident of some sort. I hope the accident happens tonight. The sooner the better.
This is just a sign of the ****ed up priorities of America today. There is no reason this trial should have lasted 6 weeks or should have created this media firestorm. You know, we're possibly about to default on our national debt and it gets less coverage than this sensationalism. I don't care if you people don't watch Nancy Grace -- you should at least recognize that it's the sensationalism of people like her that generates the hype that led to you hearing about this case. It's a screwed up world.
Dude the chloroform evidence was very weak. It was present in in-determinent amounts, and "smells like" isn't the same as "is". There was way too much conjecture to seal a murder 1 conviction. He'll, I thought she was guilty from day 1, and listened to nearly the entire trial. I walked away with the feeling that the judge was tilted heavily against her. The prosecution got a long leash to run with hypotheticals that were shut down foe the defense. The judge didn't allow a few testimonies for the defense, sustained nearly every state objection, allowed a very iffy "animation" of Ducttape being placed in Caylee's skull, gave a very damning direction on pivotal testimony against the defense that I though was overboard, allowed never before utilized science as evidence, and they STILL lost the case. There would have been many grounds for appeal, and a mistrial had she lost here. But the fact of the matter is, the prosecution didn't get it done. Even I walked away saying "no murder 1". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The scariest thing to come from this trial was the Mob mentality it created among Trial "enthusiasts". there are jackasses all over message boards DEMANDING..one more time for emphasis....DEMANDING that the jurors be made available for "questioning" for the media. That has now moved onto cable TV where talking heads are musing about how the jurors MUST do interviews. Scary.
The part that bothers me, is that people are going to use this to reinforce everything that is wrong with our judicial system, when this really showed what is right with it.
I agree, I told my wife this as we were watching some of this trial that the prosecution was horrible and they never should have gone to trial with this evidence. They should have played the angle of her misleading the cops and lying to the police about the death of her child, to me that would put her away for a good amount of time, but 1st degree murder with this evidence was just not going to get a conviction. Sad that we will probably never know what really happened and that this woman will go onto fame and fortune down the road, but the prosecution and police put together a terrible case.
There was a lot of things wrong with the demands of the mob in this case. They demanded someone be found guilty with no evidence and they demanded to see and hear from the jury, to me those people are not Americans, they just live here.
Agreed D, the system worked to perfection here....The state didnt prove where, when or how this little girl was murdered, it is that simple.....all it proved was Casey was a party girl chick, and when Caylee went missing she did some dumba*s things that didnt paint her in the greatest light in the court of public opinion.....however not being looked at in the greatest light doesnt convict you of capitol murder, and THANK GOD for that..... Also I am kinda pissed off she wasnt released on bail yesterday...the only thing she is guilty of is 4 misdemeanors at this point, of which she is a 1st time offender.....there is NEVER any jailtime for that, JJ can back that up......The only reason I can think is for her own protection.... Tomorrow she will walk into court and if she receives the max she will get 4-1 year dispo's for a total of 48 months, to which she has served something like 30-36 months, so she should get sent free on time served.... You will know if the Judge will have/had it in for her, if she sentences her to consecutively, not concurently.......she should get concurrent....to get consecutive sentences would be ballbusting in my eyes.....
Living here in Orlando, and having to navigate that mob at the courthouse several times over the last few weeks for my "unimportant" matters, was a wake up call as to how ridiculous the American people can be when a circus comes to town. The people who went to disney and then to the trial, like it was some kind of show, make me sick. They really do. The legal system, which I took an oath too respect, has been turned into a game show by people like Nancy Grace, who is a disgrace to lawyers everywhere. When the media is running down the list of "winners and losers" after a murder trial like it was a season of Survivor is just maddening
Interesting that an alternate juror said the prosecution didn't lay out a clear motive, which I don't understand. If Casey Anthony didn't have a motive, then neither did Susan Smith. At least Smith got on TV and cried when her kids "went missing". Anthony not only didn't tell anyone, but went out and partied. The (alternate) juror also said that Casey's lies started well before Caylee went missing, so her lies regarding Caylee didn't have as big of an effect. He ALSO said that the Anthony's were a dysfunctional family so that dynamic wasn't a big factor either. If the other 12 jurors were as short-sighted (Re: Dumb) as this guy, the verdict is really no surprise. I guess what I'm saying is, Casey Anthony is single now, right?
It's a shame that the state can't appeal for poor representation, because they really dropped the ball. They should have put more pressure on Casey Anthony in a way that would have FORCED her to take the stand. I would have used the term "31 Days" so many times in that trial the jurors would be mumbling it to themselves in their sleep. Make her account for those 31 days, and make her explain every single photo that was taken with her out drunk and pissing in parking lots while her daughter was supposedly being held captive by a phantom babysitter. It was the weakest character assassination at a murder trial I've ever seen. Hell, Anthony's own defense attorney called her worse names than the prosecution did. Weak.
In the susan Smith case there was physical evidence in the car, that she been there. Also the circumstantial evidence in that case was much stronger. The prosecution lacked any physical evidence in this case tying Casey to chloroform or duct tape. And they never explaiend how this dum-dum managed to cook up chloroform without anybody noticing or even when and where she purchased the ingredients. I suspect that Casey simply wanted the kid to sleep through the night so she could go out and instead of hiring a babysitter or calling her parents like normal, sane people, she used chloroform or some other sleep inducement and things went horribly wrong. Then instead of just fessing up she covered it up. Not murder, but something she should have been convicted for if the prosecution did its job and didn't "go for the kill"
The prosecution failed to 1) Give motive 2) say how the baby died And all this while going for the death penalty. And susan smith they had a motive. She confessed to it I think.
they just didnt prove jack....your own slowpoke medical examiner couldnt even get a cause of death.....listen do I think she did it, I dont know maybe, or at the very least she knows who did it.....she doesnt strike me as the type of person to hatch this cover-up all by herself....so in that case it is a loss, especially for Caylee....I have a daughter, and all I can think about is her head getting crushed in the way Caylee's did, and how insanely horrible it must have been for that beautiful child..... But as far as law, the system, and people's right to innocence first....this case is kinda a hallmark on how and why the system works most of the time...
I am also questioning why they havent been charged with lying to 5-0 either.....as their lies were probrably more egregious than caseys
And yet when the jurors sell their thoughts for $100k each at least, well that'll be the American way... I am disappointed they didn't speak but will be even more disappointed when they get paid off. Not to mention how much $ Casey will be receiving shortly.
The problem with that theory is that she searched for chloroform on her computer numerous times. Someone who did a Google search of that word would find out pretty quickly that chloroform doesn't just knock you out, it kills you. So to say that she just wanted to use it to "put her asleep" would be pushing it. As far as people noticing, her parents noticed. A LOT. How much her parents lied for her or covered up for her may never be known. I think George Anthony trying to kill himself probably tells us that it was quite a bit. EDIT: It is possible to use chloroform without killing someone, but a simple Wikipedia search finds this: "Fatal oral dose of chloroform may be as low as 10 mL (14.8 g), with death due to respiratory or cardiac arrest" Then of course you have to take into consideration that an even lower dose could kill a 3-year old.
This had all the makings of being moved out of Orlando for being consider "not a fair trial" for Casey...I mean how could she get a fair trial right?? Apparently she did get one.....so therefore I think that any number of randomly selected people throughout the country that would have made up this jury of 12, would have had 1 person who said "not guilty" which would have killed the case....the proof just wasnt there.... I am just upset that this will forever go unsolved.......
Personally I blame the bad prosecution on the media. The media attention put so much pressure on the police and prosecutors, that they couldn't have gone with anything less than murder 1.
I doubt that they get that much. They don't owe YOU or ANYBODY else anything. they don;t have to "explain themselves". they did enough, trashing their lives and their summer to participate in this crap.
It's not unsolved though. We know exactly who did it, it just wasn't proved at trial. Did you see the parents quotes yesterday? "We have closure" Case closed.
Actually, "motive" is not an element of a crime, there is "state of mind" bt that has more to do with sanity rather then "they did x because of y", they had to show the time, place, means, and act, and to me they just did not do so. A search for chloroform on the net means -0-, they would have to show 1)she at least had access to it 2) it was used on the child 3) it was the proximate cause of death. They showed none of those things.
Part of the cover up I guess. You have to consider that you're not dealing with an overly intelligent person, who also clearly has some kind of mental/emotional issues. Not to mention her wacky family. I'm not defending Casey. I think she committed a crime that could have been easily proven, the prosecution simply chose not to charge her with that, now it's too late.
You're dealing with a moron, by all accounts. I doubt she has the mental capacity, or frankly the care, to figure out proper doses of chloroform that would be safe but still suit her purpose. Case appears to be a compelte narcissit who lives in the moment. She probably loved the kid but never saw the need or had the desire to change her lifestyle for her. She was also enabled by her parents. None of this is an excuse for what I believe her actions were, but I don't think it was murder.
this is frankly ridiculous, I can personally say if this ever happened up here, that guy would have been dragged into the Judges chambers, scolded, and then would never get another plea deal done again, he would be blackballed......this clown scoldes other lawyers, then acts like a fringing moron himself.... http://www.wesh.com/news/28459148/detail.html
