There's a lot of hate going on in the media with LeBron and comparisons to Vick, Big Ben, etc. I thought I'd customize the question for Dolphans. Who, among all Phins players, coaches, or owners, (any era) tops your most hated or disliked list? Who, among all others, opposing players or coaches, a Vick or Big Ben, someone entirely different?
Dolphins: - Pornstache - JT (not because he left) - Sammie Smith - Jimmy Johnson for plaguing us with #1 - Olivadatti Other Teams: - Vick - Rapingburger - Namath - Jim Kelly - John Elway - Rex Ryan I'll add another category, Dolphins I should hate but don't: - Saban - Cam - Westhoff - Ray Lucas
Cam Cameron Ray Lucas Every running back that stink during the Marino years Our entire defense that stunk during the Marino years (minus Cross, Cox, Oliver, and Offerdahl) Olivadotti From other teams: Brady Bart Scott Rex Ryan The rest of the AFC East Cortland Finnegan
I have to add some "dislike" towards Zonk, Kiick, and Warfield leaving. Winning two titles and Robbie being cheap sure does soften the blow but I do often think of the what if's.
Really disliked Joey Harrington. Aside from that obvious performance-based hate, Cecil Collins and Marcus Vick were as good to hate as any, because they just shouldn't have been here.
Reggie Howard Jason Taylor Daunte Culpepper Channing Crowder Thurman Thomas Tom Olivadatti Gary Stevens
Gotta spread a little between Pat White and whoever picked him. He could have at least tried another position before walking away. What's everyone's take on Ricky? I remember a Whole Lotta Hating going on when he quit. Then it all disappeared, with many really liking the guy.
Thurman Thomas - Geez I hated rooting for him Terrell Buckley - SOB was such a F**@N prick in my school. tried starting a fight with every one of us white boys. got his *** kicked a couple of times too. Tom Olivadotti Dan Henning
Agree with most listed. I'll add Jay Fiedler for me. Heard he's a cool dude and we've had way worse QBs since him but I remember being so frustrated going into season after season with him as our QB.
Most of mine, stem from when the Dolphins were good... Coach: Tom Olividatti Players: J.B. Brown Aubrey Beavers Ferrell Edmonds James McKnight Wade Smith Morlon Greenwood Sammie Smith John Avery Tony Martin Joe Nedney Non-Dolphins: Jim Kelly Thurman Thomas Andre Reed Darryl Talley Cornelius Bennett Bruce Smith Jumbo Elliott Vinny Testaverde Jim Harbaugh Natrone Means Stan Humphries Well, that was pretty cathartic...
I know it isn't the thread for it, but some players I loved that weren't big names: Greg Baty Jed Weaver Lamar Smith Jim Jensen Chuck Klingbeil Mark Higgs Bernie Parmalee Scott Miller
20 replies in and nobody has mentioned Joey Porter? lol I'm shocked. I don't really "hate" many players, but I have a feeling that Brandon Marshall could be the first one pretty soon.
Reggie Howard tops the list for me and Cleo Lemon is a close second. Seeing that I haven't watched football as long as some others here, my list isn't too long unfortunately (or fortunately?) lol. I do really like Nick Saban though. He's my favorite coach along with Belichick (shoot me now, I know) and even though I didn't follow Tom Olivadotti while he was coaching in Miami, he does a helluva job teaching pattern reading.
Hard to hate Ginn for me personally. I don't know why. Seemed like he always had good intentions for some reason.
If nothing else, Ginn was a Jet killer, and that goes a long ways with me. I never agreed with trading him for a 5, because IMO a good return man is worth more than a 5 any day. So Ginn didn't see the need to lower his shoulder and try to run over 220 lb strong safeties or 240 lb linebackers. Big deal. No player of his stature ever has and survived long in this league. Discretion is the better part of valor. At least he was a legit threat to take it to the house every time he touched the ball. In retrospect it may have been wise to have kept both Ginn and Camarillo. Once Hartline went out for the year and Marshall was dinged up, it would have been nice to had Ginn and Cam to come in. Down the road though maybe it will pay off having kept Moore and Wallace, but they didn't offer good reliable depth in 2010.
I don't "hate" any current or former Dolphins. Hate IMO is a strong word and I don't toss it around loosely. Players I didn't really like as players would include Sammie Smith and Billy Milner. I guess I could include any 2nd or 3rd rounder who has ended up being a bust. Non Dolphins who I bordered on hating, first and foremost would have been Ben Davidson. When it comes to dirty cheap shot basterds, he made Romanowski look like an Eagle Scout. He was nowhere as talented as his linemate at the other DE, Ike Lassiter, but he had a bigger name. In recent seasons, like the last 15 or so, I used to pretty much despise Doug Flutie. Nothing against him personally except he played for the Bills and Pats. Had he been a Dolphin, I'd have loved little Flutie. Another guy, I used to despise, was the OL coach for the 49ers, Bobb McKittrick, because his linemen used a lot of potentially lethal tricks like leg whipping and double team chop blocks and I believe it all came directly from him. Some of this was used by 49er linemen, I recall it being Guy McIntyre, to intentionally injure and knock Karl Mecklenburg out of the Super Bowl one year. Like the 49ers really needed Mecklenburg out of the game to beat the Broncos. I guess they weren't taking any chances. Interesting that Tim Krumrie's broken leg in the Super Bowl came against that line. I'd have to look at that play again to say whether there was any obvious intent.
McKittrick was definitely behind that. But you gotta admit, he knew what he was doing. Super intelligent coach and great teacher. I know this because Bill Walsh often credited him with the great coaching jobs he did.
I think the hate for him is a little over the top sometimes. When he was given some talent to work with, he showed he could do a solid job. I think his defenses played conservatively because Shula mandated that he not be a risk taker, play the percentages and make teams sustain long drives to score against him. His defense in 1990, before Offerdahl was injured, was one of the most underrated units in team history. If anyone wants to hate on a DC, may I suggest Chuck Studley or horror of horrors, Vince Costello. Also as OCs go, Kippy Brown was much worse at his job than Oliviadotti ever was at his.
Cammie and Sybian would be at the top of my list but the op said Dolphins and I dont consider either of them Dolphins JT for dancing with the stars and being soft Culpeper for signing for the $ and then playing scared, that dude knew he couldnt play anymore and signed anyway (see week one vs buffalo) Henning for being Henning Cox for disrespecting Shula JJ for hand cuffing Dan for his system and then bailing and leaving nothing of value Norv Turner for leaving the rushing title and sack title in the snow in NE with the lead and time on the clock and Ricky in the back field with 3 incompletions and a punt in the fourth quarter Scott Mitchell, really dude? The Jets Chrebet or however the f* you spell it Thurman Thomas for all those fing 3rd downs the Chargers, in shape manner or form, (except Don Coryell and Fouts) Parcells
How did Cox disrespect Shula? JJ did leave some very good defensive players for us. Thomas, Taylor, Madison and Surtain to name a few. Granted JJ was pretty awful when it came to adding offensive talent.
Wow, there's some surprising names on that list... Gary Stevens...Marino's mentor??? Jason Taylor??? Anyhow, is I were to name my MOST hated Dolphins of ALL time, they would have to include... Coaches Nick Saban; for adamantly saying he wasn't leaving Miami to become the head coach at Alabama...then leaving for Alabama as soon as the season was over Dave Wandstadt; Enough said. There's a special place in hell for him and Saban. Jimmie Johnson; For not giving Marino the help he needed in the twilight of his career. Dan Henning; for calling 45 passing plays a game when playing a team ranked 29th in the league against the rush. Tom Olividatti; for making a great defensive squad into a bunch of under achievers Players OJ McDuffie; for wasting his incredible talent on drugs Lawrence Phillps; for giving him a chance and not taking advantage of it Brian Cox; Although I LOVED his intensity, his temper always seemed to draw a penalty Sammie Smith; Butterfingers Daunte Culpepper; For not being Drew Brees
I did too. Our defense was pretty sorry back then apart from a few guys. We needed someone with attitude and he brought it.
Keith Jackson, showboating and making stupid plays. Chris Chambers. Mr Butterfingers and invisible through 3 or 4 game stretches. Ray Lucas
lookie lookie what we have here...A Rush sighting..welcome back bro.. I know you have been entrenched in your heettle love, but now that thats over, hopefully we will continue to see you around.. Not to kick a good man when he's down, but how do you explain a so called superstar, self proclaimed chosen one checking out of a series, quitting 2 seasons in a row..That dudes mental makeup was so predicatble it wasn't even funny?
LOL I've become more of a lurker lately.. I'm all tablet lately, in fact I have 3 right now and it's a PITA to type long forum posts with a tablet.. About Lebron, all the self proclamations and Jordan talk is simply a mask.. His mental makeup evokes sympathy from me more than anything.. Just cause you have all the talent in the world and $$$, it doesn't reverse where you came from.. Crazy, drunk mom and no dad..
