to add: Well, at the Fins Charity Weekend, hope Sheets can bounce back and that statement about Thigpen and acquiring a Veteran Qb is interesting as in the usual hemming and hawing is not present.
Good info Pappy. I love when you post stuff like this, since I do not follow twitter. This one caught my eye the most: Something no one has touched on previously, that I've seen. Not being able to sign UDFAs right after the draft, gives teams extra time to evaluate them some more. When the time comes that they can be signed, it's going to be like a 2nd draft, but in free for all fashion.
I am guessing the Florida player to be CB Janoris Jenkins who was kicked off the team for repeated pot possesion. He is a very talented player . The Ohio state player could be Terrell Pryor
I would take Jenkins for a 5th Cb may not be a big need but in this league you can never have enough good ones. Put Will Allen or Benny Sapp at Safety if need be.
I like it. We are potentially 5 deep at Cb with SS24, VD, Allen, Carroll, and Sapp. Now we are looking at Wilson as either FS or SS to give Clemons competition most likely (since Jones was brought in last year for Bell long term)
I love that Ireland has the staffs divided between pro and college FA. When football resumes and the BS stops things are going to happen really quickly as teams try and prepare for the season. There will two classes of teams: those who prepared for the post draft FA's and pro fa's and those who only focused on one or the other. Ireland is an excellent GM. I kid you not, he will win a SB as a GM one day soon.
The GM in me would love to know "who" the players are the Staff "is jumping up on tables for". And which members of the Staff feel that strongly about those players?
we could be relatively 'deep' at CB, assuming Will Allen regains form. So floating a late rounder for a high reward - high risk type like Jenkins actually makes sense. If it works, he's a steal. If not, no big deal Pryor though? Goodness, Ireland must see something no one else sees. If you are set on that sort of quarterback, go get Vince Young for peanuts and hope for the best. The learning curve for Pryor is excessively steep, and compounded by the fact that we have a green QB coach.
One has to imagine Herlizch is in that discussion somewhere. He can play in the 3-4, and is a high character guy and has all the other intangibles, but probably needs to 'redshirt'. I would feel a scout isn't doing their job if they don't jump on the table at this stage.
He sees Pryor as the next Brad Smith/Matt Jones/Slash type? I read a GM describe Pryor as a running back or WR in the NFL. That sounds about right. Hes not a QB
All Irish said was "we still have to evaluate" not that "we are interested in", sounds like due dilligence, and fwiw, Janorious Jenkins has said he is going to a Div II school, so who knows if he applies for the supplemental draft?
Meh, I don't think this regime has ever jumped at anyone in the supplemental, if they do it'll kinda signal to me they're getting desperate. However, UDFA is where Ireland shines. I expect him to bring in a lot of undrafted skill players ala Noel Devine and Jeff Maehl.
They have a real fetish for defensive backs, Cb's especially, but I suspect that Bill Sheridan and Mike Nolan and maybe Kacy Rodgers is in his ear as the Defense needs some Lb's to compete as well as DE's assuming we lose McD, Imo they got who they wanted in the Draft but know the D needs some bodies to push other players or to surprise everyone. Right now our Lb corps: -Wake Crowder Dobbins Misi Francis Spitler Dobbins *Rivera on the practice sqaud Typically 3-4 teams carry 10-11 Lb's into Camp, heck maybe more as you need 3 sets of them to give the offense's 3 Qb led units guys to compete against.
Padre, you forgot Karlos Dansby in the LB unit kind of. Dobbins is listed twice. I'd still like them to take a chance on a Mario Addison or Keith Darbut at OLB.
Also AJ Edds, Moses and Dansby. I'd like for them to look at Herzlich and Mario Harvey. BTW here's some recent AJ Edds video: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/videobeta/?watchId=363e71da-8b41-4f19-ba72-f11f4492939b
Counted Dobbins twice, should have been Dansby, and Q is a Free Agent whom they did not make an offer. -Wake -Crowder -Dansby -Misi Edds Spitler Dobbins Francis Rivera We need 2 or 3 more OLB's as Francis really needs to be pushed.
He needs to win a playoff game 1st. See if he can put a team on the field that can win a playoff game before annointing him the next coming of a great GM.
Really? We have to have yet another qb debate? I have my opinion of Henne, you have yours. I believe the QB position is likely to solve itself this season. His job is to put the team together. Its the players job to go out and win games on the field. He is doing a very good job assembling the team. His role, first and foremost is talent acquisition. He's doing a very good job in that regard and I look for this team to continue to get stronger
Yeah, pushed off the roster. There's no point in doing a Matt Roth experiment when the player isn't able to use his size to make a positive impact in the run game, and Alama-Francis wasn't very good this year.
Well so far the results are far from overwhelming. 4 games over .500 and that is really bogus because we all know 2008 was a fluke. Putting all the blame on the players is not fair either, good GM's find the players that will win - PERIOD. He has yet to do that in any compelling way to make me think he is way better than the GM many teams around the league. In fact his misses on FA tell me he is not nearly the GM they have for some other teams.
You mentioned Henne, not me. If Henne improves this year then maybe Ireland already has addressed the QB situation. But if he doesn't, then the situation is not adequately addressed and Ireland won't win a superbowl until it is. Is that such a startling comment?
Jake, your better than calling our division championship year a fluke.. There's nothing flukie in the NFL..That team was disciplined, executed weekly at a high level, least amount of penalties in the league, and won 10 of 11 games..Sparano did a hell of a job inspiring a bunch of castoffs and leftovers to believe in themselves..
Omar has been thumping this for a while about Tony Sparano not trusting the man he benched twice and the Dolphins being of a mind to acquire someone big at that position. Omar likes Orton, then Vince Young, then I think Bulger.
Well, honestly cannot say Bro, first yr of a late conversion to OLB from DE/DT, I thought he did okay, not great, not bad, definetely on the roster bubble but with 6 months to work to reshape his frame and workout on his own...who knows?
Pretty much my list as well, add Hasselback and Grossman to it and there it is. Hasselback wants a 2yr deal and it would make sense, if he winds up starting we will want a bridge Qb, but Orton/Grossman/Young can beat Henne out and have a future beyond the 2011 season.
A success in this context should be readily apparent. I'm not judging him on pass rush, or coverage, or anything like that. He's a 280 pound veteran player going against guys significantly smaller than him. It's a mismatch, there should have been at least some circumstances where he physically dominated them in the run game. And he wasn't very good in Detroit to boot. It's more likely he's just not very good than it is he's transitioning. Next. Go with Phillip Merling, or someone else.
Well, I'm just not ready to toss in the towel on him just yet, he is Bill Sheridan's guy and he has had a couple successful conversion types of players, and as we saw with Randy Starks, moving a guy to a different position can have a bad effect out on their play as they learn the new gig, Ike had to lose 20 pds to make the switch and he had to use a weighted vest to get down to that weight, add in learning the new job and he should have a shot at competing. And TBH, he did not play all that much after his illness, and I've yet to really see his PFF numbers posted, but we were #7 against the run so it is not like he was being abused when he did play, cannot rush the passer worth a darn as of yet though.
This probably should have been mentioned in the Matt Moore threads from a while ago, we talked about Ireland and Sparano's experience with Moore. I didn't realize Karl Dorrell also has experience with Moore from UCLA. Moore was the QB there and I believe due to injuries was thrust into the starting job as a true freshman and won his first game. But it became clear (to him) during his first year that Dorrell didn't like him. He threatened to transfer and his dad talked him out of it. In his second year it became apparent that Dorrell was favoring Drew Olson. In fact, Moore overheard on the headset Dorrell saying as much to his offensive coordinator Steve Axman (I guess he didn't realize Moore was listening) during the USC game. Moore came into Dorrell's office and asked to be released from his scholarship, and even though it left UCLA thin at the position Karl didn't even really try and talk him out of it, just granted him the release. Matt Moore swears there is no bad blood there, but really...how anxious do you imagine Moore would be to come down to Miami and have Karl Dorrell be his QB Coach overseeing another QB competition between Moore and the incumbent Chad Henne? He did that once in his career already, and it didn't work out well for him. I don't imagine Karl Dorrell being all that excited about it either. He didn't see much talent in Moore's arm before, I doubt he's going to see any more now.
I agree. But if you have a concept in place, you don't let the media know it, unless you know everyone else is doing the same thing. You don't just give other teams a great idea...
I don't think that is unusual. All staffs, except maybe Cincy, have certain scouts who are exclusively college scouts. Then others who are pro scouts. It appears we have currently 8 college scouts and a director, and 2 pro scouts, 1 scouting assistant, an assistant director, as well as the director of player personnel guy. So 9 covering college and 5 covering pros. Also of course is Ireland himself.
