Who said he concluded he was a great citizen? Why do we assume the trade for Marshall was even one that Ireland supported? There have been reports that Stephen Ross was asking for a "#1 WR". I don't think we have nearly enough information available to conclude that x,y, or z is the case in this particular situation.
This isn't like a group of friends, this is his wife. You act like it's simple that he just drops the "drama" and moves along. He loves the woman. My brother is a walking mess. He's guaranteed trouble, but he's my brother, and I love the guy. If he asks me to pick him up on the side of the road because his car isn't starting, and the cops pull up and he has drugs in the vehicle, how in the hell is that any fault of mine? Because I wanted to help a family member I love. C'mon now people. I know we love to build athletes up like they're something special because they have money but good gosh.
His demeanor and onfield behavior this year will tell me a lot on whether he's grateful for being alive..He needs to be incredibly quiet and humble, and play like a mad man...
I tire of these cutting remarks Still-lett-o me make-a some points. Brandon has always thought he was a cut above the rest. Some may say he thought he was holier than thou. This wasn't an accident any way you slice it. Oh well, typical slice-of-life drama. Shanks, and don't forget to tip your waitress, I'll be spear all week...
Fine, remove Ireland and insert Dolphin Official X. Guess what? Dolphin Official X really messed up from a risk mitigation perspective if his own colleagues aren't surprised that Marshall was stabbed by his wife, one year after becoming the league's highest-paid WR. Just a shocking level of incompetence displayed by our front office.
Maybe you have comprehension troubles but it said nothing about the organization not being surprised by Marshall getting stabbed, It was a players response.
If you're going to continue insulting people, at least try to be right next time: ... or else you look like nothing more than a joke.
See this was my point from the time I heard it. You have people here acting like Marshall is an angel and there is no way he initiated this whole thing. His wife already stated it was in self defense. I take all the heat from people here who stick up for Marshall but the bottom line is Marshall is a hothead on and off the field. The guy needs serious anger management. You would have to be out of your skull to believe this woman all of a sudden said "Hey I'm going to stab my husband". It didn't happen that way. As I said from the start.... BM initiated this and it will come out eventually that he is at fault.
Armando's words...... I don't see a quote there I see an opinion. You are speculating on pure speculation. You are the one who is ranting on about an opinion. That is a joke my friend.
If the level of incompetence is proven by this latest incident, then you could apply it to any front office in the NFL. But then again, how has this affected the Miami Dolphins football team? Is Brandon Marshall going to miss any team activities? I would much prefer a flesh wound to a player that say, falls asleep in meetings.
True, to a point, now what if you have your family in the car and you know your brother more than likely has drugs on him as he usually does have some on him? Do you still offer the ride or would you drop off your family first? Where is your first responsibility in that situation? For me, BM's first responsibility was to avoid this very problem, the same sort of crap that happened to him in Denver, granted it is not his fault per se, he still SHOULD have made better choices to avoid it all together imho.
You are giving him way too much credit Pod. Brandon has neither the smarts or the balls to walk away. That is if at all the wife initiated it which I don't beleive for a second.
That is not even fair Killah, at the end of this he still was cut up and reportedly had DEFENSIVE knife wounds on his hands and a stab wound to the stomach area. My point is perhaps he should have had the maturity to realize even if/when he is "right" he could still be "wrong" that maybe he should internalize the "turn the other cheek" ethic even if he was perfectly justified in his actions.
Yes, because its not at all possible that the female in question acted without provocation. For all we know, she got mad he signed an autograph for an attractive female, and lost it. Nobody has really any clue.
You'll never see it, thats my point. We're all going to be in the dark about the reality of situation. My entire point is that Brandon Marshall's actions since arriving here are no more of a detriment to the Miami Dolphins than plenty of other things that nobody cares about.
I'll ask the question again though. Is all the headache and all the drama that surrounds Marshall worth 3 TD's in a season. Two dumb penalties that cost us 30 yards and drops that could have extended drives is not a negative to the team. Whatever man. You can give him a pass for his attitude and ineptitude on the football field. Me..... I think it is time for BM to act like a man instead of a douchebag. I'll believe that when I see it too.
There really isn't much headache or drama surrounding Marshall IMO. Would I trade two 2nds, and give him the richest contract for a WR in the NFL? No. But thats not because of his ability or what he's done off the field. I personally just don't value any non-QB that much. IMO its entirely too much of your resources devoted to a player that relies on others too much. If we had a healthy Chad Pennington, then I might have been a fan of the trade. As it stands now, the trade was not worth it unless we can find a better QB, or at the least one that can throw a quick slant with perfect placement. But all that doesn't mean I think he has a bad attitude or is inept.
Dude...do you realize what you have been posting. I almost feel like giving you the Billy Madison treatment, "in no way was there a coherent thought, may God have mercy on your soul". You posted this, above the quoted post here. Then you followed that gem up by responding to a guy with this gem. You're calling a guy out for speculating after all you've done is "speculate" that Brandon Marshall is at fault because he's a hothead.
Given Marshall's history and the statement by his wife that it was an act of self defense I would say my opinion of Marshall being at fault is less speculation and more along the lines of "Oh hell not again". It's called a pattern and he was due for more trouble. It had been a while. I wish she would have dug the knife a little deeper. Teach him a lesson so he is less apt to repeat his actions. Calm his anger so to speak.
Yeah don't really mean it just trying to prove a point. Marshall is going to keep to this pattern until something tragic happens. I don't want that to happen but his life sure seems to be on that course.
I wish someone would take your keyboard away. You seem to have a difficult time using the word speculation properly. You use the word speculation to your defense in trying to chastise someone else. You used the word opinion and less speculation as catalysts for your reasoning that you KNOW he's at fault and the truth will come out. You actually did an awesome job of giving the message board a lesson on what speculation is. Maybe a "Fist Pump" is in order...
Are you so blinded by your love for the player that you ignore the history and the patterns. Are you familiar with the term repeat offender? That is what Brandon Marshall is. You turn your head and choose to ignore that fact if you want but it won't make it go away. We've read this book before.
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Absolutely meaningless - of course she would say that. Did you expect her to come out and say something like "Yeah I stabbed him, and I'm glad. I don't care about going to jail, lock me up and toss out the keys *****es, peace." Self Defense is the only angle she has if she is even the remotest bit at fault. Though frankly, I think it is 100% clear you just don't like the guy and that is fine, you are allowed to have your opinion. You are doing as much speculating as anyone though.
This is so awesome. You hate Brandon Marshall, but use my "love" of the player as the reason I'm blinded by fact?
Many fans do that when they are in support of star players. Never see the negatives because of the stardom. I call them player fans.
Word is the Broward Sherriffs department will release the 911 tapes anytime. That should give us more information on what happened.
Actually, the time he claimed he slipped on the McDonald's bag, he put his fist through a TV set. He later changed his story...what really happened was that he was horsing around with his brother, just wrestling or something when he went through the TV. Do you believe the second version? That injury seems worse than this one. He severed an artery and a vein, damaged a nerve in his right forearm and cut tendons to five muscles. He needed surgery to have his tendons and artery sutured back together. Did it take a few months to recover from? Now, this time, he slipped and fell again, this time on a glass vase. We already know that he was lying there, and we also know that he was lying last time in the TV incident, at least the first time, before the story changed. Maybe the next story will be that his WIFE slipped and fell with a knife in her hand while preparing dinner. You just can't believe a word of it. Lots of slipping and falling going on for any person, let alone a professional athlete. According to Sports Illustrated, when Darrent Williams was shot to death, those bullets were intended for Marshall. He may have got his teammate killed by being a douche-bag that time...not intentionally, but the end result is the same. Being stabbed and being shot at; this incident is NOT an anomaly. Then you have his well-documented history of domestic violence allegations involving more than this woman, his wife. Other things too. The guy is a problem child and has behavioral issues. Victim in this case or not, he is on thin ice here, which is unfortunate considering his propensity of slipping and falling and hurting himself. You gotta think that this looks bad. You also gotta know that the real whole truth of the matter will never come out. It's all about damage control right now, trying to minimize the legal repercussions for his wife as well as PR to save what's left of his reputation. Believe me, there are a team of well-paid experts working on this right now. It's basically a matter of law right now, not the truth; that's two different things. If you want to suspend judgment until the truth comes out, you will be waiting for a long time; forever, in fact. The only people that will know what happened is the Marshall family. Bank on it. I just have a hard time seeing Marshall as the 100% victim here.
Really? That's very classy of you. It's Marshall's fault he was stabbed. He's the one with defense wounds on his hands and she's the one who was arrested. Don't you think if he wanted to do something to her, he would have? You clearly have something against Marshall, what is it?
He most definitely has behavioral issues. I don't think too many people would deny this to a degree. That said, I don't have one problem, given his and her past, seeing him as a victim in this case. She is a certified nutcase for stabbing him and in their first confrontation, she was supposedely kicking and punching at Marshall like she was a dude. I've seen some crazy *** women in my life so it's quite possible that the only provoking might have been adultry of some sort. However, he definnitely needs to seek help, or more help because I 100 percent agree that a problem in his brain exists.
How is he a fraud? If people are calling him a top 5 WR, he must have done something to deserve that. I don't think getting stabbed by his wife is being a trouble magnet.
So you wish she'd have killed him, basically. He's not gonna learn any lesson like that at this point. It's probably chemical. The change has to come from within, which usually means he'd have to lose everything first. Least that's the common tale. We still don't know what happened. I have my theories and beliefs, but I'm not going one way or another until the story is told.