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Survivor - Redemption Island

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  1. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    Those Zapatera guys are idiots. Has any other tribe ever cared more about being BFFs than winning Survivor?
     
  2. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Boring episode.

    However, I think Stephanie sends Matt home next week.
     
  3. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    No sh*t. What a bunch of tools. They may not win another challenge.
     
  4. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    TIE GAME!!! wooooooooooooooooooo
     
  5. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    With any luck. The sooner the show gets rid of those boring bunch of idiots the better.
     
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  6. Dolfan984

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    I'd be SO happy if that happened. :)
     
  7. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    It should be entertaining to watch them lose another challenge because they couldn't bear to vote out Sarita and her aching teeth. The funny thing is they're probably going to vote out the dude who sided with Stephanie next even though he's clearly a better competitor than Sarita. He had the gall to threaten their love and unity, I mean they really don't have a choice here.

    This season would be a lot better if there was anybody around who actually had a shot at taking Rob down. Funny the two next best competitors are probably the ones on Redemption Island right now.
     
  8. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    This season was made for me. Russell gets an early boot and a one and done at RI. Rob gets put on a physically weaker tribe with more women than men, and looks like he might (as the leader) have them win the team portion. Grant trusts Rob 100% and the girls hate Phillip. Just an awesome season so far. :up:
     
  9. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Pretty season so far.

    Zap is full of idiots. They never should of thrown that challenge to get rid of Russell. Vote him out the first chance you get, but don't lose intentionally. Grant has shown himself to be a complete beast, and I will not be shocked when Rob double crosses him and votes him out near the end. I'm pretty sure Zap is done too. Matt has heard nothing but bad things about that tribe for 3 straight TC (Russ, Kristen, and soon Steph) and will likely rejoin Rob's team only to become cannon fodder. Phillip is interesting too. Like many other "idiots" he could change the game for the worse. He knows Rpb and Grant don't trust him, hates the girls, and will likely shift over to Zap. I imagine Matt will be the equalizer in the equation, going back to Andria (SP?) and thus Rob. Only Andria seems to be a little upset that Matt is getting close to the other girls... I could see her being apart of Rob's final 4 and excluding Matt.

    Honestly, I can't imagine Boston Rob not making the final 3/2. The only question is, will he pull a Russell and alienate so many people that he'll lose in the finals, just like All-Stars?
     
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  10. muscle979

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    They're making a lot of bad moves and they're one of the most boring tribes I've seen on the show as far as entertainment value. Just a failure all the way around. I really hope Phillip doesn't help them hang around any longer.
     
  11. Dolfan984

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    Whohoo! Ometepe at the merge with a lead!! Hopefully Matt does what he says in confessionals (wants to get back with ometepe) and they pick them off one by one. :)
     
  12. muscle979

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    I think he'll go back. He hears bad things about zapatera basically at every challenge. Speaking of zapatera they finally kind of did something that made sense for once. Though with the merge coming so soon it may not benefit them as much. Sarita wasn't a threat to anybody playing individually. Her going to redemption island pretty much ensures Matt will be the one returning. I saw he had a foot injury in the promo but he only needs one foot to beat Sarita.
     
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  13. rafael

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    I expect Phillip to flip to Zapatera. If Matt's injury is enough to give Sarita a win then Zapatera may actually have the numbers. If Matt does return, I don't expect him to flip per se, but I could see him reuniting with Natalie and using Zapatera to take out Rob. The fact that Natalie went to the challenge and got jealous of how Matt interacted with Krista may make that less likely. Either way I could see Rob being nervous enough that he is forced to use his idol. I'm sure he wanted to hold on to that secret a bit longer as it could make a guy like Grant question his loyalty to Rob.
     
  14. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    Phillip flipping is almost a sure thing at this point. You would have thought maybe Dave would flip before but since the tribe chose him over Sarita he probably will go back to them. Matt could get mauled by baboons overnight and still beat Sarita. Sarita is garbage at challenges.
     
  15. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    If Matt sides with Ometepe (and Phil with Zapatera), Rob needs to pick Phillip or someone from Zapatera off with his idol, and then pick off the rest of them one by one.
     
  16. Dolfan984

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    Once again another perfect episode for Rob. No more idol for Zapatera. :up:
     
  17. muscle979

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    Boy is Matt naive. I don't think he wins another Redemption Island challenge. His spirit seems broken. I loved Phillip calling Zapatera out for throwing a challenge. There's really no way they can even defend themselves anymore. I'm surprised Phillip didn't flip but I do believe he'll still go for Rob at some point. Ralph wasting the idol was hilarious. Matt should have asked them for the idol in exchange for his loyalty. I can't believe he didn't seem to really suspect that Rob would try to take him out again.
     
  18. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Well, you said it yourself. He's too naive. Poor kid doesn't stand a chance against a player like of Rob. Especially given his moral values. That said, I'd love to see him continue his streak on redemption island and have one more shot late in the game. Don't know if he'd compromise his faith in order to make a bold move or not. But, the way he's played the game so far he'd more than likely have jury votes if he made it that far.
     
  19. rafael

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    I'd love to see Matt make another Redemption Island run if only b/c I have no doubt he be taken out instantly again as soon as he returned and that would be funny. I'm not expecting him to make that run, though. Rob seems to have control and just be smarter than everybody else. He made mistakes but with idiots like Matt, Phillip and that first chick that got voted out, the mistakes don't matter. I expect that at some point there will be an attempted backlash, but I don't expect anyone to be smart enough to make it effective. I wouldn't be surprised if he has both idols by then (assuming the one Zapatera wasted gets hidden again). He might not even have to find it. He'll probably just convince some idiot to give it to him in exchange for protection or something.
     
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  20. Dolfan984

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    I doubt we'll see another idol since there's just one tribe. Nobody knows Rob has his idol, so if they do end up attempting a backstab don't be surprised if Rob uses it at the perfect time.....and the more strong men they eliminate, the more likely Rob wins individual immunity every week.

    We're going to see Zapatera members voted out for the next 2-3 weeks IMO. Say bye to Mike and Ralph folks.
     
  21. muscle979

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    The other reason I don't think Matt makes it again is because stronger players are going to start getting voted out soon.
     
  22. VanDolPhan

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    I seriously laughed when they sent Matt down again. Just goes to show morals get you nowhere in this game. Even the girl that was supposedly close to him voted him out lol.
     
  23. muscle979

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    That was a little surprising but you could tell she was pissed when Matt went and told Rob everything about what they had been considering. When they initially blindsided Matt I thought she would be bitter about that throughout the game but man she's fallen right into line with the rest of the puppets in Rob's tribe. I just wonder how much longer Phillip will be able to stand playing good soldier.
     
  24. Dolfan984

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    Nailed it on the head.

    [video=youtube;Ph1K5qngyWg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph1K5qngyWg&feature=relmfu[/video]
     
  25. VanDolPhan

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    Yup. Matt was stupid and did it to himself. He could have gone over and taken her with him and really stuck it to Rob by getting rid of his closest ally in Grant (although they coulda got rid of Rob outright as he never played his idol)..
     
  26. Dolfan984

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    Just an absolutely fantastic episode. Tactics not used since season 1 I love it!
     
  27. wpgfishfan

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    Rob is getting a little to cocky

    Why do they have 3 on redemption??
     
  28. Dolfan984

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    The two people who lose on RI don't make the jury is my guess. Rob should be cocky, he's the best to ever play. He's the Dan Marino of Survivor. Was Dan Marino cocky?
     
  29. muscle979

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    I haven't seen all of Rob's seasons but I remember a certain other villain getting the better of him not too long ago. I don't think he should be as cocky as he is because if he would have been put in Zapatera in the beginning he would be sitting at the house now just like Russell. He may very well run into the same problems getting votes that Russell has in the past. In reality this season is making him look great because his competition is so weak.

    Speaking of Zapatera, hearing them whine about 'not being given a chance to play the game' made me laugh out loud. Serves them right. I am enjoying watching them get picked off one by one. I think Mike has a chance to slip into the final three via redemption island but the rest of them are as good as gone already.
     
  30. Dolfan984

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    Immunity Idols and Tyson being an idiot. This season Rob has absolutely demolished Russell. When you're the leader of the alliance with numbers and the highest vote getting has an idol played for them, then yeah you might get blindsided.

    Rob owned the first All-Stars. Lost the final 2 to his wife by 1 vote. He was a lot better at challenges when he was 27 :lol:
     
  31. Firesole

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    Im not sure how you can say Rob has owned Russel this season. The only reason Russel was voted out was because of his moronic tribe mates throwing a challenge. Although he was probably on the ropes anyway since Ralph found the HII. Clearly Russel was the only guy on Zap who had a clue on how to play the game.
     
  32. muscle979

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    Rob never went head to head with Russell. The only time they were on the same tribe Russell went to the final and Rob didn't even make it to the jury. This season he was put on a tribe of morons who didn't want to play with an experienced villain so they put him out right away. They are now reaping what they have sewn. Serves them right. This season would have been so much better if Russell would have made it to the merge as well as Rob.
     
  33. NJFINSFAN1

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    You know, I'm beginning to wonder if Phillip is just acting at being a nut. Every once in a while, he sounds like he knows what he is doing.
     
  34. Dolfan984

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    On heroes vs villians nobody had heard about Russell because he played back to back seasons. When people know how he plays they'll throw a challenge to get rid of him.

    They still played on the this season. The same thing Zapatera is complaining about "they're not playing the game" is what Russell and his 2 girls complained they were doing :lol: Russell Rob is beating the team that beat Russell. 2nd out of the game compared to someone who actually has a chance to win a Final Tribal Council vote, unlike Russell.
     
  35. The G Man

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    I was thinking the exact same thing NJFF1, but I'm quickly reminded of an expression that goes something like even a broke clock is right twice a day. LOL. Seriously though, the dude is a trip. Sitting their with that feather strapped to his head and referencing the other members of his tribe, what was is he called them...Stealth R Us or something like that? OMG...that was frickin' hysterical.
     
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    I still think Phillip is more idiot than not, but I think that he is smart enough that he is now playing up the crazy, "I'm the guy you want with you in the final two" angle. I thought that Stealth R Us was planned for that purpose. I expect that he'll have a new one at most every tribal council.

    As for Russell, I think he was kind of a one trick pony that didn't adapt. He was great at finding idols by using his intelligence, but that was about it. He came off as too much of a snake to be trusted by most except for the very young. He really only made it to the end b/c of the idols and b/c his opponents saw him as a guy who was no threat to win it all b/c he rubbed too many the wrong way. And really, Russell's strategy for finding the idols isn't that difficult to replicate. Anybody who's watched him play can do it. That negates Russell's advantage and he's mostly left with just the disadvantage of being Russell the villain.

    Rob is the better player. First, he's just as smart, but he also has the ability to make others trust him. He builds large alliances among varied personalities and ages. Second, he's humble enough to adapt. He figured out how powerful the idols could be and is just as good as Russell at finding the idols or clues. It's possible that if the tribes had been switched Rob would have been voted out early, but he may have built the alliances that Russell was unable to build.
     
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    Zap was more than willing to give Russell a chance at first, but then he started acting like Russell...

    I really think Rob might be the best to never have won. But I'm not sure of all-time. in Marqueses (SP?) Rob played the game in a way no one had before. Because of a numbers disadvantage after a tribal swap, Rob had to convince an alliance of 7 to split apart, which had never happened in survivor before. Rob was voted out, and the next week the first ever alliance flip took place to take out the majority one. So Rob gets some credit, but he could've played better if he shut his mouth. Rob as a leader is cool and calm. Rob at the bottom is frustrated easily.

    All-Stars was Rob's best all-around performance. He dominated in all aspects. His jury management as terrible though. Luckily, he has his future wife in the final 2 with him. And if it wasn't for that, I think he would've taken Jenna > Amber and won the game... So the ending to *** is a little odd. I consider this an unofficial win...

    HvV was interesting... Rob played good and he also played stupid. Rob started off right, building relationships, working hard, etc... But he got cocky and started taunting Russell, which served no point IMO. It kinda gave Russell some ideas too. Tyson did screw up the vote (although his reasoning is interesting). But Rob failed to accomplish anything after Tyson got voted out, because Tyson, not Rob was the leader. People tend to think otherwise, but the truth is, everyone loved Tyson and wanted to deal with him. Once Tyson left, Rob failed to bring back Jerri in (coach too) for 2 reasons. 1). Jerri didn't trust Rob because of ***. Without Tyson, she was free to move on. Not much Rob could do here...2). Rob is stubborn. He could of targeted Parvati, instead of Russell, and saved himself. Coach hated Parv and liked Russell. Jerri hated Parv, and liked Russell. Rob should have tried to dismantle Russ's alliance, but he was way to focused.

    in RI, Rob is playing the most calculated and honestly, perfect game I've ever seen (at least strategically). He knows the game inside and out, and has a plan or counter to everything.
    It's how a 4th timer should play. He has adapted completely to the game. This is why Rob > Russ, IMO. Russ said he was going to do things differently and didn't, and as a result, was targeted.
     
  38. Dolfan984

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    That's why I said he's the Dan Marino of Survivor. Best to never win one, but when he played, you know you were watching supreme talent at his craft.

    In All-Stars Rob lost by one vote to his wife at the end. Had there not been a tribe swap that moved Amber to the other tribe, Rob would not have had to completely lie to Lex to keep Amber around. If that does not happen, Lex is still Rob's friend and votes for him in the end. **** a tribe swap. :lol:

    In HvV when Tyson got voted out, the majority voted for Parvati. No idols, and Rob's alliance probably takes it to the house like they are doing this season. That's no excuse but Rob has learned A LOT from that idol gaff. Once again nobody had seen Russell play before HvV, which is a much bigger advantage than Rob has ever had.
     
  39. NJFINSFAN1

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    OK, Phillip is crazy!!!! And no I'm not racist!
     
  40. Dolfan984

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    Rob wins an individual immunity challenge, still has an idol, and another Zap goes home. Another great episode in my eyes. :up:

    Final 8 baby gettin close to the hard decisions. :)
     

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