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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. TheAnswer385

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    yikes
     
  2. Jt0323

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    I am 95% positive the Rock will Wrestle agian! which is something i thought i would never see!
     
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  3. Ray Finkle

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    I still don't think it will happen, but if it does there would be zero point in doing it at a random PPV event so we're going to have to wait a full year at the next WM. I do think The Rock is going to cost Cena the title match at WM though whether it's on purpose or by mistake. Of course this could all be a set up and end like it did at WM14 with The Rock helping Cena win, but I would doubt that. But that last interview segment was great.

    The Triple H/Undertaker/Shawn Michaels interview was great too. I kind of wish they did that a week or so ago to really build the whole "If HBK couldn't beat Taker how could Triple H think he could" which would add a little more to the match.

    I do think the big problem with WM this year is that there's only 1 match that are really going people care about (Cena/Miz) and that has more to do with The Rock than the match itself. Everything else is kind of blah as everyone knows Triple H isn't going to end the streak, Del Rio is going to win the title (although neither Del Rio or Edge is a big draw), who cares about the Snooki match, etc. So while the build to the main event has been great, it's only been great because of someone who's not even going to be wrestling.
     
  4. Samphin

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    Yeah, the buildup overall has been lackluster. I agree there.

    HHH-Undertaker has a big time feel for it and I assume that the match itself is going to be pretty good to great since both can dial it up at a moments notice. Cena and Miz should be a fun match, especially with The Rock involved. Del Rio vs. Edge seems sort of like an afterthought which is too bad considering that ADR won the Rumble and all, but the match quality itself should be good. And the Orton-Punk match has been built well with Orton taking out Nexus and Punk having to take matters into his own hands. Punk is probably going to eat an RKO, but he is teflon at this point. And I love me some Sheamus-Bryan, but that is a guilty pleasure for me, I know.

    The rest of the show is kind of meh.

    King-Cole will be fun just because you know Cole is taking a Stunner and King will get a nice WM moment.
    The 6-man mixed tag match is crap, but Snooki will get them mainstream press. It would have been better to have Dolph and Morrison wrestle each other, but it is what it is.
    The 8-man tag is awful, and really unneeded. I would have rather had an IC scramble/gauntlent match where members of the Corre were surprise entrants.
    And I don't care about Misterio-Rhodes, although apparently Rhodes is in heavy favor with management with his current character. So look for him to win.
    And I don't even know if there are any other matches on the card to be honest.

    Again, lackluster for the biggest show of the year, but every WM had filler and crap on the card I suppose. It will really make or break with the top two matches. If HHH-UT fails to deliver, the PPV will be a failure. If they hit a homerun with it, WM will be a success.
     
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  5. TheAnswer385

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    Could Sin Cara appear at Mania? He is scheduled to make his tv debut the day after.
     
  6. Ray Finkle

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    He could but I doubt he will, as his debut will be overshadowed by everything else that goes on in the show. Off the top of my head I can't really think of anyone ever debuting for the first time at WM besides Lex Luger who did an interview during WM8 for the WBF (which I guess you can't really count) or Luna Vachon at WM9 or a non wrestler for a 1 time match.
     
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  7. Rocky Raccoon

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    Rumors are building heavily that the Rock wants to wrestle again and I've read a few sources on other sites that stated The McMahons have told the writers to be prepared and that he could make his comeback on Summer Slam.
     
  8. Ray Finkle

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    Summer Slam would make the 2nd most sense since it's the WWE's 2nd biggest PPV but if it's only for a 1 match wrestling deal for I'd be very surprised if it was at Summer Slam as the real money is and always will be for a WM match. If The Rock is coming back full time then sure I guess it would make sense (although I'd probably push his return back 6-7 months for WM anyway since the money and gate would be huge). Again though I find it extremely unlikely he'll be back full time.
     
  9. unluckyluciano

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    I thought the promo last night was right where it needed to be. Letting cena end it with his move against the rock was also great.
     
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  10. muscle979

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    I'd see him more as a pay per view and occassional main event type of wrestler. Because he's getting older and he has no reason to subject himself to the grind of the regulars. If he came back solely to host this Wrestlemania then that is a pretty big disappointment. His persona kind of demands that he get in the ring at some point.
     
  11. Big E

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    I would like to see HBK interfere with the match with some sweet chin music on HHH. Maybe setting up a SS match with the two of them. Oh and I played pool on the table Trish got laid out on...just sayin...
     
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  12. muscle979

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    I don't see the point of it. Cheap shots don't exactly fall in line with the integrity he can't stop talking about. I'm really puzzled by this angle. I can't figure out why he's feuding with Cena at all. Is Cena about to pull a Hollywood Hogan?
     
  13. unluckyluciano

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    right but rock talking about bringing it then doing it via satelite didnt exactly fall in line with what he was saying either. I think the point is to give the rock a little more pump now that its him vs cena vs the miz. Not to mention giving cena a little bit more heat, which he was already getting. It reminds me of when the rock went up vs hogan. Hogan was getting all the cheers so in the end they kind of made the rock an *******. If you have no chance in being the hero might as well be the villian.
     
  14. muscle979

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    Cena is obviously top dog with the kids. I agree with him, nothing to be ashamed of. But when the kids are your most devoted fans it's kind of hard for you to go heel. I thought Miz was outstanding during his segment.
     
  15. unluckyluciano

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    yeah but I can't see very many kids following the rock. Cenas what they have known and always known.

    On another note im watching jerichos breaking the code. I remember why he's always been one of my favorites.
     
  16. Ray Finkle

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    I thought it was extremely smart having Cena lay The Rock out with the AA to end RAW, because it simply puts more heat (both good and bad) on Cena and it leaves fans to speculation if/when The Rock will return the favor. The Rock already said on Twitter he's going to get his revenge on Cena at WM.

    And I really don't think Cena is turning heel anytime soon. He's the face of the WWE both on and off screen and does tons of business for them in sales and also he's a good figure head for the company since he's a boy scout so the WWE never has to worry about him getting into trouble. The reason why Hogan was turned heel was because his character was stale and he was getting no reaction from the crowd anymore. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for the WWE to do it with Cena at this point in time.
     
  17. Jt0323

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    With the hhh-taker match I'm wondering if HBK would get involved....he said he's done wrestling and I believe him... part of me wants him to wrestle HHH because the two would put on a great match and I always believed his last match should he vs HHH but the other part if me wants him to stay retired BC I think its cool I saw his last match and HBK has always been my favorite...

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  18. Ray Finkle

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    I'm sure Shawn will show up during the match, even if it's just to sit at ring side to watch. I believe one of the early plans was to have him be the special guest ref but that was changed once the WWE got The Rock to sign on for WM because they wanted to keep the option of The Rock being ref for the Miz/Cena match open just in case they went in that route. I really don't want HBK wrestling again, he put on a great last match and just once I'd love to see someone not wrestle again once they retire.
     
  19. alen1

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    Maybe Mark Henry will retire one of these days and never wrestle again? :lol:
     
  20. wpgfishfan

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    I come here for WM updates

    Come on boys
     
  21. Rocky Raccoon

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    Holy **** that Taker-HHH match was awesome!
     
  22. Jt0323

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    Amazing match!

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  23. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Finally a good match.
     
  24. Jt0323

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    Also very glad HBK did not get involved...it was taker and hhh's moment.

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  25. alen1

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    Did Undertaker extend his streak?

    Please say yes.

    EDIT: Just read about it. Awesome. Too bad I missed it.
     
  26. Rocky Raccoon

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    Wow, that whole main event was pathetic. Just awful from start to finish. I like the Miz too and thought it was going to be a solid match but it was brutal. The crowd seemed non-existent the whole time, thankfully I didn't pay to see it.

    I guess the silver lining was this means the Rock will stick around.
     
  27. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Pretty bad WM. The main event was terrible.

    still happy to see a rock bottom though
     
  28. Rocky Raccoon

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    I mean, I don't watch or follow wrestling as much as I used to, but that had to be the worst main event at a WM ever.
     
  29. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    They looked like they had never wrestled each other before or practiced together.
     
  30. Rocky Raccoon

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    Yeah, that's a good way to put it actually. And the crowd being dead made it twice as bad.
     
  31. Ray Finkle

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    It sounds like the Taker/HHH match was great and the crowd was really going nuts during it, so that probably took the toll from the crowd (also hard to be sitting there for 4 plus hours too). I'm guessing (since I didn't see the match) the problem with the Cena/Miz match was that the crowd knew The Rock was going to be involved so they were waiting on him coming down and that was probably distracting them. I remember reading in Mick Foley's book when he was fighting Triple H in his 'retirement' Hell in the Cell match that the crowd wasn't giving them any reactions and he had no idea why until they started to climb the cage and the crowd got hot, he realized the crowd knew the match wasn't going to end until there was a big bump off the top. It sounds like the Cena/Miz match was like the Triple H/Jericho WM18 match were the crowd was dead and thus it hurt the overall feel to the match.
     
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  32. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    The Taker-HHH match was good, not great though. It got to a point where it was just finisher after finisher.
     
  33. Dolphins1Beatles

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    Glad I didn't have to pay much. I wasn't going to watch since I haven't been watching, I stopped watching after HBK retired, but I knew someone who had a bunch of people over so I only paid a few dollars, figuring it would be worth seeing The Rock, HBK possibly being around for hhh/taker and Trish. The Rock was obviously great on the mic, but not something you would pay 65 dollars for.

    Overall I thought it was a bad show, the HHH/Taker match was good but it was basically a much slower version of the Taker/HBK matches. The tombstone spot from HHH onto Taker was the high point, but it got confusing. Trish hasn't missed a beat at age 35 is better than all the women they have now, that was an entertaining match. But WrestleMania without Shawn Michaels is like Chicken soup without the chicken. It just doesn't work. At least not for me who grew up watching him, always knowing that no matter how bad or good the rest of the event was, the HBK match would always save/steal the show.
     
  34. Jt0323

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    HHH-Taker match I thought was very well done. I actually believed that maybe HHH was going to win when he did the tombstone. The rest of the PPV sucked. Orton-CM Punk had its cool moments but it did not feel like WrestleMania. I also don't get taking away the Kings wrestlemania moment. But to be honest i never expected this to be a good Wrestlemania so i am not disappointed.
     
  35. Big E

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    HHH Taker should have been the main event. Miz is terrible.
     
  36. TheAnswer385

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    Highlights for me

    Miz's pre match video was one of the best I've seen in a while if not ever. Cena's wasn't too bad either.

    HHH's entrance was bad ***

    I also slightly thought that it was perhaps over a few times in the HHH Taker match with HHH winning. Only thing is now Undertaker looks completely unbeatable at Mania regardless of match-up, not that he has many left anyway.

    Cole/King match was fine with the finish leaning towards an extreme ppv match.

    Snookie surprised me with her back flips, was not thinking she had that in her.

    I don't mind the finish ONLY if they are building to a Cena/Rock match in the future, which I think they are.

    WTF happened to Daniel Bryan and Shamus for the US title? I'm guessing we will see it on RAW tonight.
     
  37. Ray Finkle

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    Come on how could you think Triple H was going to win? There's zero money in him beating the Undertaker nor would it help Triple H since he's already a mega star. Next year the WWE can sell The Undertaker vs. anyone (even Snooki) in a match for his streak and it would generate buys. The Undertaker isn't losing at WM ever, even when he retires, that way the WWE always has the option of bringing him back to face a new up and comer. Really the last dream WWE match for The Undertaker would be against Cena.

    And I said it a few times in this thread that the build to WM has been bad. Besides the Triple H/Undertaker & Orton/Punk there wasn't much in terms of building up interest to any of the matches. Even the Cena/Miz match was made by putting The Rock into the mix. Without him I don't think WM does nearly as many buys as it will do.

    The US title match ended up being a dark match before the PPV started. It started out as a Lumberjack match but all the wrestlers on the outside charged the ring and it ended up being a Battle Royal which was won by The Great Khali. The WWE obviously felt there wasn't enough time to fit the US title match in, so it got bumped which is disappointing.

    I actually think an awesome way to end WM would have been have The Rock helping The Miz beat Cena which is what happened. But then have The Miz get on the mike and just run down The Rock saying he didn't need his help and his moment was overshadowed by him and he's sick of it, how The Rock is a washed up Hollywood actor now and couldn't hang with the WWE Champ. Then have Miz challenge Rock to a match which sees The Rock winning the WWE title when John Cena hits The Miz by mistake when he tries to get his revenge on The Rock. That way you close the show ala Wrestlemania 9 with the crowd going nuts with the unexpected title change and it's a big WM moment, which WM is about more than the actual matches.

    Then that way RAW gets a huge rating the next night (since The Rock is suppose to be there live) and the WWE could go with the typical 'RAW GM strips Rock of the title because it wasn't an official match and Miz gets it back' or 'set up a WWE title tournament at the next PPV' etc. Or if The Rock is planning on sticking around and wrestling, he's your WWE champ. Either way the fans are happy, the WWE would make some more money and it puts more heat on The Miz and Cena.
     
  38. alen1

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    [video]http://www.metalinjection.net/tv/view/6728/triple-h-comes-out-to-metallica-at-wrestlemania-27[/video]
     
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    What happened I thought the Rock wasn't going to wrestle?
     
  40. Ray Finkle

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    While I'm still very skeptical he will wrestle, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets back into the ring for at least 1 match. I can't see him being a full timer again but I think it's more likely he's going to face Cena at some point in the future.
     
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