How can Little see a pro route he liked after 1 year of playing receiver?...... and how can he truly be all-in at blocking when he's accustomed to being "blocked for"? lol. Cam and Little are entirely different. The list is so long I wouldn't know where to begin. Now if we're talking Cam Newton the NFL TE prospect, then I might feel similarly about the 2.
Seeing as how Mel Jr was tied at 14th with our very own Universal Draft (regarding top 100 boards), I'm not sure whether you're complimenting me or sarcastically insulting Conuficus, Boomer, CK, and Alen.
No he didnt..... unless by "10 split" you're referring to a bowling term. Not sure what that has to do with running the pigskin, but I'm ears if you care to explain. Not that I want to get in the middle of the Toddphins vs. Hurricane debate, it's fantastic btw, but Mark Ingram had the best 10-yard split of all the RBs at the combine at 1.53...which most scouts tend to look at in terms of burst/explosion from a stopped position. Obviously that's just in shorts and not in pads, so to each his own on who is more explosive on film, but Ingram's 10 yard split was better than Ryan Williams'.
I already explained it. Hold ctrl+F then type BPA. I already explained it. Hold ctrl+F then type Causation I said Ahmad Bradshaw because I was being realistic... I don't know where I got the idea you were rational, but that's why I said it. After realizing (I'm slow) that you're ridiculous, I took an equal stance. Fighting fire with fire is a universal principle--I now fully expect you to argue how fire has nothing to do with Dolphins. I already explained it. Hold ctrl+F then type Causation (I'll elaborate a little more here, because I feel that pea between your ears may be overloading at this point. It's a novel concept, really, so this shouldn't cause a meltdown for you: I never said Hernandez/Gronkowski were bad players, I said Tom Brady was an elite player and using them to their fullest potential, much like Montana/Young were and did. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Canton. The 10 Yard Split Ingram ran a 1.53 The sooner you stop posting, the sooner you can stop getting embarrassed, Toddy Oh and Marlon Moore was your choice--not mine. Since I have another roster spot, I get Peyton Manning. (Are you beginning to see how ridiculous you sound?) Look, Todd. You "traded back" and got an extra pick. I will take every single player you take and then 1 better than your worst player. There. Done. Period. End of story.
lol. thanks. NFLDraftScout has Ingram's 10 yard split at 1.55......... with Ryan Williams at 1.53. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6480/player?r=1
First I've seen that time for Ingram. Mayock et al made a big deal that he had the fastest 10 yard split at the combine at 1.53, but that's the first I've seen anywhere that had Ingram at 1.55...who knows which one is accurate. As evidence to who knows which one is accurate: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...gram-solidifies-first-round-status-at-combine And one more with Ingram at 1.55, but with the best split time: http://www.mlive.com/sports/flint/index.ssf/2011/03/flints_mark_ingram_will_re-run.html
Run first doesn't make any sense either. That's still putting an emphasis on a part of the game that doesn't yield as many yards as the other part of the game. In fact its probably making passing more difficult when you run first, whatever he means by that exactly.
On the contrary......... my draft would help lite a fire under them better than yours would. nee ner nee ner Ok, now I got ya. You're saying that we should ignore skill players at TE & WR b/c we'll never be able to use them to their fullest potential? Ummmm...... not to point out the obvious here, but how does that explain you wanting to take DJ Williams in the 3rd round? lol. Elite prospect Rudolph along with an extra 2nd rounder=not ok, but good prospect DJ Williams=ok. You're definitely overloading my brain all right........ but not b/c of sound and complex logic. so now 1.53 = faster than 1.53? You must've gotten that "special time" that calculated down to the thousandth of a second that us pea brains didn't. And only my aunt calls me Toddy........ Who knows------ maybe you might enjoy wearing high heels and dressing up like her. Each his own I guess. Wrong. Marlon Moore was yours by default when you failed to acquire an extra draft pick. Make up your mind------ either you want Moore or you don't want Moore. You cant keep flip-flopping players like this. How can you take every single player I take? You cant b/c then you'd have MY draft, which would make your draft just as good as mine.....which would make you some cooky member completely arguing against himself.
I don't know which one's right (maybe 1.55 was the official despite him running a 1.53 first), but I'll take either regarding Ingram. I'm not worried about .02 if you're not.
Considering last season when we ran between the tackles 64 % of the time and only second to Buffalo's 65% we don't want to stray from our predictable play calling. Bring on that 3.7 yards per rush up the middle
Who knows, but I agree, whichever time is Ingram's, I'm not worried about it. Same with a 1.53 for Williams. I'm just glad Miami's shown an interest in those two as well as Mikel Leshoure.
Williams...1.53...10 yard....5th Ingram....1.55...10 yard... http://forums.charlotteobserver.com/?q=node/5535
Hurricane, would you graciously allow me to point out another flaw in your logic? "yes". Ok thanks. A running back by committee as you say means less, not more, of a reason to use a top 15 pick on a "between the tackle runner" because you're now splitting carries. Your logic would make sense "if" the offense is using a feature back who carries the load. Purposefully spending a #15 pick on a back who might carry the ball less than 15 times/game might be considered over-drafting by some. I'm not sure how you can advocate this and then turn around and say a future pro-bowl #1 TE is a luxury pick.
I know we worked him out at his pro day and he's got a trip to Davie scheduled (it might have already happened), but I know we met/or will have met with him twice.
add me to your inconsistent list Ven, not sure what that means but..I like Little, and dont like Newton..were talkin a 3 round pick here, not a player we are mortgaging the farm on to move up to the fist to get, projecting talent in the thirsd is best when its filled with raw hi level ability, even if it needs some polishing..
And how can Newton have proper footwork, mechanics, coverage reading skills and whatever else - not without merit, by the way - you're saying he does not when he's started 1 year of college football? It's amusing that one player gets a pass because he can't possibly have the proper technique while the other does. Consistent argument, thy name is not Todd.
I've learned through the trials that I must make two responses to each of your nonsensical banters. One for you and then one for the people who will actually comprehend what I'm saying... Toddy Tight end is currently deeper than runningback. For the competent Phins readers Because our runningback depth chart right now is: Lex Hilliard Kory Sheets Neither even had a carry last year, and the latter is coming off of a torn ACL. Neither would even make half the teams in the league, let alone be 1-2. We need help; Ingram is better than Williams. That's a start. Then we need a change of pace, which is where free agency kicks in. Bradshaw, Sproles, Norwood... take your pick. On the other hand, our tight ends are: Anthony Fasano Mickey Shuler Jeron Mastrud The last two aren't anything, but Fasano is a fine blocker; to waste resources on a guy like Rudolph is unnecessary, when we can get DJ Williams, whose skillset (speed, pass-catching) is better for our team. Another option would be Virgil Green.
[SARCASM]Because that was my point.[/SARCASM] The whole thread is about adding a speedback to our offense. As Detroit showed us all last year, that doesn't fly unless you have a complement (which Lex Hilliard is not). But thanks for stopping by to disregard everything in the OP, everything everyone else wrote and making yourself look mighty cool!
Seriously? Cam's "improper footwork, mechanics, coverage reading skills and whatever else" wont contribute to us winning in his first year. Little can play a complimentary role where he DOES contribute. There is such a difference it's not even funny. I guess guys like Jacoby Ford, Dez, Arellious Benn, and so forth didn't help their respective offenses while developing. How many developmental QBs helped their offense last year? If Cam throws for 2200 yards, 12 TDs, and 21 INTs while he's learning, it would be considered a bad year for a QB and detrimental toward 2011 success. If Little has 500 yards and 5 TDs in a complimentary role while winning a game for us with a big play, it would be considered a contribution. Maybe you don't realize that WR is completely different than QB. Do you understand that they can "help" a team win even while they're developing where as a QB mostly hurts your team while he's developing? You do realize what we currently have at #4 & #5 WR right? You do realize that you can find easy ways to get Little the ball to where he can still make an impact while he's learning right? Now if Greg were to say he's switching to QB, then I'd have to agree with you. However Little has intelligence and doesn't have a past with cheating, stolen laptops, and a dozen traffic violations in one year. He excelled at WR in his first year at the position, so I at least know there's some natural ability for the position and that he's a quick learner.
What's not to get? I'd rather have Ingram and Williams rather than Rudolph and Williams. It's not Rocket Science. Marlon Moore was brought into this by you. I'm talking about filling out a roster, which you were too, since you included him. You are one stupid ***. You're 36 and your aunt wears high heels? Who is she? Angela Bryant?
Yes. It's not that hard to get if you give it a little try. All you have to realize is that I am not talking about Cam Newton or Greg Little as players/prospects at all. I'm merely holding you to your standards. You set the bar - now you also have to jump over it.
What bar? Oh is it that thing all the way down there? Pft. At least someone knows what I've been putting up with.
Sorry, but that's your standard, not mine. If you'd like to lump every position into 1 category, that's your choice. I don't do that. When I discriminate one QB over another even though my "standard is the same", then you can hold me to it. In my book, my standards for early WR contribution are different than my standards for early QB contribution.
why? is that a style faux pa in your book? Will you be wearing flats at her age instead? There's nothing wrong with having Ingram and Williams....... wait..... which Williams? But to dog the idea of having Rudolph, Williams, and Williams (sounds like a lawfirm) instead is plain silly.
I disagree that we need a new QB if we're going NY Jets. The difference between Henne and Sanchez existed in Defensive takeaways, INT's dropped, two WR's who could actually stretch the field, a TE that people respect, a solid O-line all year, and a good running game. You said Sanchez took shots downfield. Yes he did. He had time to sit there and had guys who consistently got down field. Say what you want about Braylon, but he has all the measurables in the world. The Jets were built to do that. We weren't. You're prematurely dismissing Henne while admitting our offense wasn't tailored to what we wanted him to do.
No...... the one that you've been drinkin at all day to come up with some of this nonsense. what? Vendigo has a hangover from drinking all day too?
Nah man, I've have Kobes worth more than your entire outfit right now.... but at her age? Lol I'll be dead 1st Williams is DJ, not sure who the 4th one is. He's yours, I guess.
Probably. I'm sitting on my couch right now....... but it scares me to know that you know what I'm wearing at 9:30. Lasssssst peak before I close the blinds.
Wow. Not what I meant. You're a bigger perv than the guy I referenced. ...I'm not saying this to continue a debate. I'm saying this to assure you that I'm not sexually harassing you. http://www.retrojunk.com/tv/quotes/89-pee-wees-playhouse/
I think he's trying to say that a team averages more yards per attempt passing than they do rushing so it "makes more sense" to be a passing team. However we both know that it's more complicated than that.
Oh, I see. In your book, a slow wideout who has never run a proper pro route in his life, gives lazy effort when blocking, hasn't played a down in over a year and got suspended because he took diamond earrings and a trip to the Bahamas is ready to impact early. What's the book called, by the way? 'Todd's Believe It or Not?" I suspect Todd stole my stash and drank it ...
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