Sports Buzz: Kyle Orton

Great news!

 

Thats some good buzz Pod..

Palmer is serious about not playin for them, hes available, hes interesting, but what would they be askin for?..the 15th?..

I think we have to look at that option thoroughly ya know?..Hes 31, has a weakened arm from when that dude came out, an arm that could be getting stronger depending on his training, good leader, can deal with different personalities, get6 his *** out of the cold.. I could see a fit here, but I wonder if their gonna want the 15th for him.

 

I'd be fine with Palmer or Orton, IF we didn't have to trade a draft pick for them. certainly not the 15th pick.

 

I'd be fine with trading the 15 for Orton if they give us the 36 and the 46.
The latter being one of the picks we gave up for Marshall.

 

Schefter has said that IF Cinci decides to trade Palmer, they could well get a 1st rounder from a west coast team, where he wants to play, or from Zona.

 

I have just never been able to get comfortable with the idea of trading for Kyle Orton. I've tried. He's not as bad as Kevin Kolb. That much I know. My favorite option is still Carson Palmer, if we're not taking someone in this Draft.

If you can get Carson Palmer for next year's 2nd rounder, I think you do that. And it sounds like Cincinnati might be willing to hear that offer.

 

Have we not had enough bad experiences involving 2nd round picks and QB's? There was AJ, DC, Beck, everyone's favorite in Pat White,, and now Henne.

It's kinda like hitting your head on a brick wall. The only thing that makes it feel better is when you stop.

 

paying a 2nd rounder for AJ, Beck and White was highway robbery and we were on the losing end.
DC and Henne were worth the risk, for very different reasons. and I still hope we keep Henne, regardless of whether he's a starter, or preferably our #2 QB.
Given our priority is shoring up the QB position, I'm okay with paying a 2nd rounder for Palmer, less so for Orton.

 

Kyle Orton would never fit into the S. Florida social scene. Dude looks like he does 40 yard wind sprints in a gym that is 39 yards long.

 

For next years 2 is an easy decision imo , although I can't fathom Cincinnati would take that . For me, I would have to think any payment for Palmer would have to have compensation this year , at least part of that package.

 

Not if it's Vince Young that they DO find appealing.

I'm really not enamoured at all with Orton but I'd take him any day over Young.

Palmer is probably the best option but I'm not willing to give up what they'd probably want for him personally.

 

They might be, but I've heard that two NFC teams would be willing to give up 1st round picks, most likely in the 2012 draft. Rumored to be Seattle and Arizona. Not sure that'd get the deal done, but I wouldn't offer anything more than that for Carson Palmer.

 

I think there comes a time in every GMs life where you have to rely on your talents and make a gamble..The QB position this year will be that time..Free agency or draft, something risky is gonna go down.

 

There is no way Arizona is giving up the 5th pick of the draft for Carson.

I'll say it for the millionth time...Not one free agent or rookie QB is our answer this year. It's simple. We have a very wide window to work with here. Our defense is young and as good as it has been in years. It will only improve also. Our offense lacks playmakers and lacks scoring threats. Henne has 1 year left on his contract (cheap, might I add). If we can get him a solid supporting cast on offense, and he takes off, then we bring him back and everyone is happy. If he has a bad season, we let him walk and view our options in the draft and free agency in 2012.

I can tell you all right now, that next year's draft class is going to be 10x better than this year's. Andrew Luck, LAndry Jones, Nick Foles, Matt Barkley, Brandon Weeden, Steven Threet, John Brantely, Kirk Cousins, Terrelle Pryor, etc... (not saying I would want Pryor, but just throwing him out there).

 

I believe he can be had for a 3rd, I don't see them getting anything higher than that IMO due to the age factor. That and the team he's traded to would have to pick up his contract.

 

Whenever you hear that, I think the first thing you should be thinking to yourself is "subtract a round"...and that's going to be closer to reality. Miami COULD end up picking pretty high in the 2012 draft...we're a team in a lot of turmoil.

 

A year ago this 2011 QB class was shaping up to be STUNNING...and that was before anyone knew a damn thing about Cam Newton. A year ago everyone was staring at Andrew Luck, Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert, Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles...and saying DAMN...that's going to be one HECK of a QB class, 10x better than this year's.

But then Luck up and decides not to come out, as do Pryor and Foles. Christian Ponder's and Jake Locker's senior seasons fall like a limp d-ck, presumably because of injuries for Ponder and a combination of suckitude and bad weapons for Locker. Now Ryan Mallett's got drug rumors to deal with and people saying he's an a-hole.

You just don't know. You can't do business that way. Terrelle Pryor is not a good pro prospect. Neither is John Brantley. Kirk Cousins could easily be a flash in the pan. Nick Foles and Landry Jones could fail to progress just like Christian Ponder and Jake Locker did (and those two respectively compare pretty well too). Andrew Luck goes #1 overall, where we are NOT picking most likely, and Matt Barkley decides to stay in school...suddenly, OH SH-T, we're out of luck again, guess we'd better wait til next year because the 2013 Draft is guaranteed to have 10x better QBs than this 2012 class...

 

Hold on...is Steven Threet really on your list?

 

Rofl your cracking me up

 

Carson Palmer can take his 20 Int's to another team.