Hyde: Draft Winds IV - A thorough breakdown of Cam Newton

We're quoting CLARKE JUDGE as evidence now?

Judge Judy next?

 

IMO, Visualization is a very important component in being sucessfull in what ever profession you choose.
Newton see's himself as an entertainer/Icon. See it, be it, but tread lightly talking about it pre draft.

 

Why not Judy? She has a *****in' attitude!

 

Is she an icon though?

 

Apparently Newton was talking about becoming an icon for Under Armour. Like Mike was for Nike.

 

It seems that people are looking for reasons to criticize Newton. Everybody wants to draft a franchise QB that can be the "face" of your franchise. The comment he made makes me more confident that he is ready to that not less. I've expressed my concerns about him in the past, that he wants to be an entertainer rather than a QB is not one of them.

 

It doesn't bother you that he didn't realize bringing up something like "seeing himself as an icon" in any context might stir up controversy?

 

I was thinkin Mike Judge.

 

I disagree. A quote like this could be an indication of a bigger issue (and my feelings have nothing to do with what Judge said). I'm not sure that he's not taking his future in the NFL for granted..... and that has nothing to do with me liking the kid or not.

Quote by Warren Moon on Cam:

Asked about his upcoming interviews with NFL officials, Newton said:

another fun Cam quote.

 

I don't question his football talent. I question the thing above his neck that is responsible for all his decision making.

 

Well obviously hes talented and wins. lol. In his one year his team went undefeated and Ray Charles can see hes very talented. Really not telling me anything I cant already see. People like myself who arent that keen on him have never questioned either of those things. Of course taking snaps from under centre, being able to read a defense and not rely on his legs when his first read isnt there, somehow these things cant be graded because we havent seen him do it. I admit I dont really like the guy, but that aside, any person who is a fan of him still has to admit taking him top 3 is a major leap of faith.

 

He has looked to scramble when his initial read wasnt there, Ive seen him do it. Not saying he does it EVERY time, but he does it. In the Championship game he looked like a deer in the headlights at times when they blitzed. Instead of looking to make a play with his arm, his initiai instinct was to scramble.

 

Serious question. In doing your research, did you actually speak to any contacts you might have at those two colleges or perhaps know people who have such contacts, or did you rely on published quotes?

 

What he a deer in the headlights or was he scrambling?

 

Both.

 

It's no leap of faith at all.

 

It doesn't bother me one iota.

 

Well Newton is a stud athlete no doubt. Incredibly gifted. He has a strong arm and he can run. Everybody can see his athleticism.

But, he played in Malazahn's spread system with very easy (and scripted by Gus) throws to make (and who EXACTLY) to throw it to. So of course the first question is can "he" read a defense? He rarely (if ever) went through progressions. He did not throw many "pro" type patterns. And he obviously did not play under the center.

Auburn also had a great running game with 4 senior offensive linemen, and 3 of them that were 3 year starters I believe... that's like having 2 or 3 pro bowlers for a college team. Also, Malazahn's misdirection helps to open up passing lanes as defensive players have to account for all the motion. Plus Auburn had some serious speed (Fanin and McCaleb) that teams had to worry about the edge all the time. Then there is the threat of Cam running himself. In essence Cam had a ton of things going his way that helped make his passing much easier me thinks. But Cam is a great player and if he could grasp the mental aspect of the game he could be great.

But I wonder why nobody is serusly questioning Cam's character at all. This is my big "if" with Cam. The computer theft at Florida (and yes it was theft pure and simple). The 14 traffic violations in 1.5 years while at Florida. Of course he transferred out of florida, but the real story is... why did he transfer? Was it because of Tebow? Or was it because he was about to be expelled from Florida for because he was caught cheating on exams multiple times? HMMMMM. Of course there is the Cecil solicitation (and anyone who thinks Cam didn't "know" should be evaluated) that lingers. That is alot of baggage for an "icon and entertainer".

I think Cam could really be a pretty good pro down the road... but I have to wonder if Karma isn't penciling him somewhere in the near future. And with the luck of The Fins... I don't want to find out.

 

how bout two iotas?

 

If there's a CB out there who could back pedal and change direction as well as you did regarding Tebow and Percy Harvin we should draft him asap. You were dead wrong on both and then covered yourself with "yeah, buts" and "yeah, ifs." Congratulations on exposing yourself on both counts, and in the process being rude and disrespectful- a common occurance given your level of arrogance. Bravo. You obviously know next to nothing about throwing a football given your comments- I'd love to see how far and well you could actually throw one and I could give a squat of your assessment of Cam Newton- and given your equating of Ginn and Harvin you know very little about Wide Receivers. Not to say that I don't enjoy some of your analysis, but you're limited at best. Your screen name should in all likelihood be Alfred Ogilvie as an homage to the character from the "Bad News Bears", and you know what you can do with your other comments.

"Sort of semi got one thing right about Tebow"? Classic Boomer. I totally went against the grain and was dead right in the process, and you were dead wrong. So live with it, and maybe next time you'll be less arrogant, stubborn, asinine and rude about your opinions as they conflict with the opinions of others.

 

How did Cam look yesterday folks?
Marshall Faulk did say when cutting to commercial after watching Cam throw... "I smell a back up".

 

Hmm, maybe more like a Jot instead of an Iota?

 

Not good bro, he was off on his throws, and it had little to do with timing he was sailing passes which is sort of a sign of mechanics being scewed up.

Imho Newton and Ingram overtrained for the Combine and did things they typically would not do simply because it was over emphasized, same thing happened to Tyrrod Taylor.

 

Well the thing is... Newtown is only used to throwing at wide open receivers that are standing in a spot for the most part.
Tis a shame Cam didn't play for MSU... then it would be a true barometer of his talent.
He walked into the perfect storm at Auburn... dominant Senior (4) o-line, a oc / great play caller with a system that uses a ton of misdirection which gets defenders running all around confused, and Cam throwing to screens or to guys running wide open becasue of the defenders cheating on the misdirection, and Cam being the great athlete that he is took off running into wide open lanes when the pocket broke down. O-Lines are what define college teams and Auburn had it in spades. I wonder what Cam would do if he came back to Auburn this year with 4-5 new starters on the o-line. Smart move to come out while his stock was high.
Anybody who watched any SEC football could see thta Cam threw 85% screens, short slants, TE drags, and took a shot once in awhile deep.
He never made NFL throws.

 

This thread makes me laugh as well.

TEEEE-BOWWWWW.

Wait, how did Cam Newton work out?

 

That Gadaffi reference is gold Boomer!

 

Cam Newton is scary scary good , to no surprise of some of us. No surprise at all.

 

I love reading our thoughts on players a year later. Great stuff. Thanks everyone.

 

I'm tempted to bump a thread about Cam Newton. KB21, Killerphins and ToddPhins were riots.