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Defining Greatmess

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Southbeach, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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    Here's a tuff question for all, especially Phins Phans because of "The Don" & "Dan The Man.


    There are so many things to consider, stats, longevity, regular season wins, playoff wins, titles, comparing to those in the same time frame, and comparing to those all time.


    Is Shula the best coach of all time because he won more games that anyone else? Are other coaches better because they won more titles in less time?



    Is Marino among the best without a title? How much does individual talent matter without it?


    Should a player like Gayle Sayers, or even a Jim Brown, lose points because they did not play as long as others?


    Does the era in which a player played make a big difference?



    Many questions.

    Answers?
     
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  2. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Defining Greatmess

    "Great mess" is appropriate with defining the Dolphins of late
     
  3. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    best title ever
     
  4. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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    AAAAAAAAAARGH!!! "Wonderful reply."
     
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  5. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Damn, someone beat me to it. I had a good one too.
     
  6. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    You just teabagged a piranha tank...
     
  7. Garryowen

    Garryowen New Member

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    Greatness=The inability to tell the story of football without the person mentioned being in it.
     
  8. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Greatness is getting the absolute peak of your talent and ability. Greatness doesn't have to come from the greatest to ever play the game. Take the 80 Olympic hockey team for example, not the best team, but they reached Greatness.
     
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  9. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    never get into defaming dolphin icons, very bad medicine
    sometimes the truth & the reality conflict when it comes to fans
    love is blind. it is what it is
    Don Shula & Dan Marino were the best @ what they did in Miami
     
  10. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    :scared:
     
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  11. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    GreatNESS:
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    GreatMESS:
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  12. godolphins

    godolphins New Member

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    Nice one :clap:
     
  13. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
  14. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    Greatness is simply dominating the competition .... duration of greatness, # of titles, and # of wins is what truly defines where you stand against other 'greats'

    'Dan' had some limitations, but he never won a title because Shula failed on the defensive side of the ball. Shula had such a run from 70-85, but by then all the defenders he had thru the 70s were done. He also got hosed by the defection of Zonk and Warfield to the WFL. The 70s could have and should have been the greatest period of current era Football success (of course it still remains ours) -- even with the emergence of the Steelers.

    People get enamored with stats in player evaluation and when you don't have the titles and wins ...

    God love both of them, but someday .... some coach and QB will team up to win 2+ SBs and the legend of Dan and Don will die .... just like that of Griese -- why, because when that FINALLY happens, that generation of bloggers won't know who Dan, Bob or Don were .... except us old timers ....
     

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