OmarK: Ireland feels Hilliard could be a 1,000 rb

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Thought these were two nuggest that Omark claims to have gleaned from his time in Mobile, the Garner one should surprise no one, the Hilliard one is surprising in light of Lexxy not seeing over 10 carries this past season after finishing 2009 strongly.

    Anyone else think, feel, believe Lexxy Hilliard could be a 1,000 yd running back? Or is Sparano correct and he is more of a fullback/ST type of player?

    For myself, Lexxy could top 1k, I think he runs to high and for a big back is knocked off balance a bit to easily, but he has a nice burst for his size and surprisingly good hands in the passing game.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=20218&draftyear=2008&genpos=FB
     
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  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    If we had a quality offensive line
    -and were committed to the running game,
    -and Hilliard was our starting RB, then I think he could get 1000 yards. But not in electrifying fashion. talking 250 carries for 1008 yards.

    IMO, he's nothing special. he's a 4th string RB that could be serviceable in time of injuries.
     
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  3. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I tend to think just about any competent RB in this league could reach 1000 yards if given enough carries.
     
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  4. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    Not sure if Ireland is off his rocker,
    or that he is pumping Hillard up to get him off the roster.
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think Lexxy is a RFA this season, I find myself agreeing with Irish over Sparano on this one, Lexxy could top 1k and avg 4 ypa, he has enough burst and power to do so, but I doubt we'd see long runs or explosive plays.
     
  6. Tone_E

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    Ughhh. Lets back him up with Jesse Chatman.
     
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  7. Desides

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    I think that Hilliard is more of a receiving back, a third down type. He’s not going to be the next Arian Foster, but Ireland’s position has merit. The few times Hilliard has actually been legitimately used, he excelled as a receiver out of the backfield.

    If what Kelly says is true, then Sparano seems to be looking more for a Julius Jones type, a guy who just plows for whatever yards the offensive line clears for him. In that instance, I trust Ireland’s position over Sparano’s. Hilliard can’t be much worse the R&R Express, though he’s certainly not very deserving of, say, 300 carries a year. If we could get a workhorse like a LeGarrette Blount, then Hilliard makes sense as the 3rd down back, and Kory Sheets, if he still has his speed, could be a good #2.
     
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  8. Jaj

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    Actually Hilliard would be useful in one way in particular. Hilliard placed on a spread offense is an excellent back to have. He's decisive, has burst, and he'll produce that consistent 4-5 yard gain and sometimes a bit more. He's a good receiver and a good blocker to have. In addition to say a DeAngelo Williams and maybe a rookie that's a good group.

    In rush oriented offense Hilliard is a mistake.
     
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  9. schmolioot

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    Omar also tweeted that the fins have not ruled out a 1st round QB and that the QB position will be addressed.

    Just as important a nugget as the hilliard one
     
  10. Ozzy

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    I would say he made the most of his opportunities. Probably better that both Ronnie and Ricky of late but I also think that Mark Ingram can be a 1300-1500 yard back....
     
  11. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    From what I saw of the kid in 2009 I would be much more worried about the Fins chances going into 2011 with Lex Hilliard as our starting RB than I would be with Chad Henne as our starting QB. He may be a 1,000 yard back but that's not an accomplishment in the least in today's NFL. You have to average 62.5 yards a game to reach 1,000 yards. Hilliard is not a starter.
     
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  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    At this point they have not ruled out anything as of yet, that is sort of gibberish bro, not aimed at you of course, just in general.

    "They have not ruled out _________ as of yet"

    Fill in the blank.

    For me, I have this vision of going OLB/DE at #15 to make sure the defense stays strong.
     
  13. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    not a knock on Lex, but this.
     
  14. ncdolfan

    ncdolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It is smokescreen season......can't believe much of anything you hear from any GM this time of year.
     
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  15. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    Garner surprises me. Two foot surgeries in less then 6 months ? I think their concern is him putting on more weight and his foot not holding up, not good. Hilliard rushing for 1000 yds ? Please, tell me what Ireland likes to drink at night, I want some. Then again, the news is from Omar so to me, its as reliable as a snowballs chance in Hell of not melting.
     
  16. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I bet no one remembers the epic battle I had with Boomer over Hilliard when I joined here.
    I think Hilliard could still be that every down back. Boomer said back then he is nothing but a third down back.
    Pod outlined some of his weaknesses. I think if you give him the ball more he would shine. Of course we didn't care about establishing a running game in '10.
     
  17. padre31

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    Well, here is how I look at this one:

    Would you rather have:

    Hilliard and Ronnie Brown and a Qb/DE/Tackle

    or

    Ingram and Hilliard and the #78 pick on a Qb/DE/Tackle?
     
  18. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    That cuts both ways though, man. The kid got his chance to play in 09 and didn't impress. With the lack of production from Ronnie and Ricky both last year don't you think if the kid could be an every down back he would have gotten more than 0 rushing yards and 3 receiving yards on the season? Seriously, we're talking about a player who had 3 total yards for the entire season as being our starting running back next season. I could see if Ronnie and Ricky combined for 1800 yards and were tearing up the league and there was no chance for him to play, but the fact of the matter is he couldn't earn any playing time. ANY!
     
  19. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

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    So he's part of a rotation as opposed to being an afterthought by Sparano and Henning. Its about taking the talent you have and using it, something our coaches have failed at.
     
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  20. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    Ingram and Hilliard and a QB thru FA as a rental for a year or two.
     
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  21. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And where's that?
     
  22. Boik14

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    Actually bro, one of the things that got Hilliard benched in the first place is his inability to identify where the blitz is coming from and successfully make a block. He was horrible in that aspect every time we have tried to use him and its an essential part of the game now of you want to be a starting RB. Hes a decent 3rd running back and thats about it.

    Reading through the thread I was like come on someone say this ^^^. Its still an accomplishment but come on, if your back is only averaging 62.5 ypg and that constitutes adequate production then what constitutes a good running game nowadays? 1200 is the new benchmark.

    And no, Lex is not a starter. If Ireland thinks he is, i would tell him to re-evaluate how he identifies starting running backs. Hilliard is a grinder who can chip in but if hes this teams starter then its time for the "Suck for Luck" campaign to start.
     
  23. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    With Odrick, McDaniel, Starks, Langford and Merling on the team I would be exceptionally pissed if we went DE at #15
     
  24. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Ireland is our talent evaluator and he thinks Hilliard is a 1000+ RB? I'm weeping for this team.
     
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  25. NaboCane

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    Yeah...um, wow. Thanks, Jeff.

    I have SO much hope for our future with Ireland at the helm of personnel decisions.
     
  26. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Ireland is not a stupid man. Ireland does not say anything to give his competition an edge. In fact he goes to great lengths to disguise what he's thinking and what he's planning. To me this is just another misdirection, a smoke screen. To what end, I don't know. Maybe he does want Ingram and doesn't want teams to feel like they need to jump in front of us to get him if we think Hilliard can be a 1,000 yard rusher. Maybe that's not the case at all. But the fact of the matter is that it's unlike Ireland to make a comment like this out of sincerity. Grain of salt my friend, grain of salt.
     
  27. Boik14

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    McDaniel is a free agent...if there is free agency.
     
  28. Southbeach

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    Hilliard could easily run for over 1.000 yards. All we have to do is NEVER throw the ball. I've seen him play, and aside from NO passes, he has No shot. Can we get serious?
     
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  30. alen1

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    I don't buy a damn thing they say this time of the year. He could write down his draft intentions in front of me and I wouldn't believe it.
     
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  31. uab_phin

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    I think that Hilliard could become a solid every down back, but aside from that I think it's a little more concerning that more and more disagreement between our coaching staff and front office is becoming made public; especially after our Harbaugh debacle.
     
  32. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    The more public speaking they do, the more BS is said IMO. Its why I don't mind when they are quiet.
     
  33. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    I smell smoke for a trade at some point...
     
  34. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    What a damn joke Ireland is
    Hilliard had ZERO carries last season...ZERO CARRIES
    ZERO TO HERO IN ONE SEASON
     
  35. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Coming from Omar, this means nothing. He has no credibility.
     
  36. padre31

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    You?

    Come on Alen, Omark merely said that is what he heard at the Senior Bowl, he did not say whom it was from as I doubt he and Irish were drinking coffee together and chatting at 7 am in Mobil.

    I'd think if he heard that from anyone it would have been James Saxon who wound up on the Vikings staff.
     
  37. padre31

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    A passrushing De Trowa, on nickel passrush downs, Misi is fine but he is not really a guy who gets after the Qb.
     
  38. gandalfin

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    Like several other posters have already stated, you don't believe anything Ireland or any other FO folks say, particularly at this time of the off-season. It means exactly zero. In speculating on Hilliard, like Boik14 brought up, if he can learn to block adequately, he might play enough to rush for 1000 yds; that's no big deal. More likely 1000 yds rushing and receiving though.
     
  39. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    I thought Cobbs was the future......................
    That was the consensus last year,wasn't it?
     
  40. padre31

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    :jump:

    Anyone but Cobbs, I'd prefer Hilliard 11 times out of 10 over Cobbs.
     
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