We are better with him than not imo. Ive read the stats and ive seen our QB play. Hes a good WR that can only help our team.
52 WR's in the NFL in 2010 had more TD's than Brandon Marshall. Those of you who are sticking up for him are making excuses. Even a washed up Randy Moss who played in 4 games total managed to get 3. That is really sad. We gave up comp that should be equal to a top 5 WR. We got hosed in that deal folks.
Ummm...Randy Moss played in 16 games this season and had a whopping 28 catches for 393 yards. Anyone that knows anything about football could see his lack of TDs are because Chad Henne is a worse Qb than AJ Feeley.
Actually Moss played in 8 and started 4 so my numbers may have been a bit off but it is still pathetic that Marshall had three TD's and 52 WR's had more than him. I bet everyone of the QB's that threw those passes were Pro Bowlers. Henne should have went out and helped BM hang on to his 12 drops. Twelve drops BTW is excessive and uncalled for from a top flight WR. Two second round picks for a middle tier WR is too much folks.
Dude...are you brain dead? Randy Moss played in SIXTEEN GAMES last year. Four for the Cheatriots, four for the Vikings, and eight for Tennessee... http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4262/career
Thanks for the insult bro. Fair enough you are right but that only shows that Marshall's TD production is comparable to a washed up nomadic Randy Moss. Brilliant!
And you lose...AGAIN! Randy Moss played 2 1/2 more games than Brandon Marshall and had only 28 catches for 393 yards and yet Moss is comparable to Marshall??? Dude, you look like a FOOL.
Brandon Marshall would be unstoppable with a better coached Henne,or a new more talented QB, and a more healthy talented Oline/running game . I really hope they keep away from recievers in the draft . Unless its an amazing pick they need to concentrate more on a QB, runningback, Oline . We really have a talented bunch of recievers already.
Chad throws ten yard passes to Marshall and then he falls over for 2.8 yards... He should break one once in a while. If he doesn't drop the ball. Maybe that stubborn Henning guy should have put BM in the slot
Well I guess we'll just have to wait until next season to see who's right.... you know.... when Cam Newton is throwing to #19 (For the record, I think Marshall was worth it. Better performance out of the other receivers the year Marshall came is no coincidence; Marshall commands double teams. He's a building block and a step in the right direction. We need to continue constructing our offense now, as we're not too far off.)
Think so as well, I went back and looked at his Denver highlight reel and the thing that popped out at me was BM was lined up in the slot, and the play design forced a Linebacker to try to cover him, and he created huge plays. In Miami, that rarely happened, in fact they would just leave him outside 95% of the time (seems like) and when he caught the ball there were two or three defenders on him by the time he caught the ball and turned upfield. THAT to me is a play design issue, Henning simply did not know how to use him properly add in Henne rarely throws slants and ta-duh, 1k season, very few catches and long runs. Watching the offense this yr I was reminded of a baseball game were the bases were clogged with baserunners, they could only move up one base at a time, sort of station to station. Not all on Henne much of it is, it seemed to me the routes were designed to have a Wr flash open with a turn in or curl, Henne would hit them with the ball, but they weren't going anywhere due to the design of the route, the only guy who made a play in that situation was Marlon Moore in Oakland and that was due to man to man coverage and the corner gambled and missed the ball and the tackle.
Maybe if Chad Henne could come even remotely close to hitting the WR in stride or at the best spot during the route more often than not Brandon Marshall would have started the Pro Bowl this year...yeah probably...
In Denver he had a better OC and a QB who threw the ball with confidence, better or not, Orton and Cuttler both had the balls to chuck the rock up to B Marsh and believe he would come down with it.
Wrong!!! He wasn't for sale last year because Boldin was and he's not going to be for sale now because he's the best player on their team. They just need someone who can throw the ball to him. No way they let him leave that team.
Worth it and when we have an offense that actually allows him to run routes that are suited for him, you will see that he was worth way more then 2 2nd round picks. For those that say he was not worth it, you will eat crow, believe me.
To jump in to the debate, I wouldn't blame Henne for his 2.8 YAC (although some balls were so badly thrown that Marshall had no chance at any YAC). The blame on BM's low YAC is all on Henning. You don't get YAC on out patterns where the QB is asked to throw the ball to the sideline. You don't get YAC on hitches (maybe on occasion, but rarerly). I can't even count how many catches Marshall had on these two patterns but I will take an educated guess that 60-70% of his catches were on these types of patterns. Your forgetting just how much of a physical speciman BM is. He is big, fast, and has to be used correctly to get the most out of him. Is BM the same as Fitzgerald? Probably not, Fitz has better hands. Marshall's hands were never his strong suit. You could say the same for TO back in his hayday. TO had many a 7+ drop seasons. That doesn't discount the fact that they are both physical specimans and great WR's.
Put this "fraud" in a Saints-Patriots-Packers-Colts, uniform and watch how much of a fraud he really is. These teams have one thing in common. A QUARTERBACK !!!...How the hell can we knock this guy after last season when we had NO QB ????. Talk to me after next season when he has a decent QB to throw him the ball. You want to talk about dropped passes? When we get a QB to be more consistent with his throws then we`ll talk about that also. Lets see, Henne gets a free pass because Henning sucked. But Marshall,even without a QB,sucked . Now I got it.
My basement flooded,Henne did it. The guy that threw him the ball for 1000 yards was Henne in spite of the poor play design. My house is on fire, ****ing Henne did it. Fins can't run the ball ****ing Henne is no good. The OL is a piece of **** ****ing Henne can't block The O coordinator is senile ****ing Henne did it Marshall drops the ball trying to keep Henne out of his pocket where his signing bonus is. Henne is responsible for giving up 2 second rounders for Marshal. Momma Henne is the ****ing devil.
Do you even know at all what you are talking about or has your Henne hatred tarnished your ability to think? Henne was a first year full time starter. Brandon Marshall is a so called top five WR in this league who was moved to the Dolphins for top 5 comp. You consider them to be judged the same. That is foolish. Stop it you are embarrassing yourself.
That is all you got. I point it out that Marshall is at best the 53rd rated WR in TD production and you blame Chad Henne. The same Henne that threw 5 TD's to Bess. Brandon Marshall is a possession WR.
You can't pin that on Henne you are correct but as abysmal as Henning was you can't pin it on Henning either. Marshall is a big boy who is supposed to be a stud in this league he should overcome things if he is what they say he is. His YAC average was horrid and no one is to blame for that but Brandon. More excuses for a guy who wasn't worth what we gave up for him. Over rated and Denver was over comped for his services. You get YAC if you are a playmaker and BM is not one. He is a glorified possession WR who has been elevated by the league and this board. There should be no excuses for a player of his magnitude unless it is all a lie. That is why I call him a fraud.
Hey Killer, thanks for trying to bring a little balance to the finger pointing exercise that goes on, the fact is that Marshall or not the offense was bad all around and it got worse when Hartline went down. I still believe that if Henne had an effective running game as he did against the Raiders we would not be talking about him as the"problem". Thanks for trying a little logic.
(1) Who said I hate Henne? He`s not a good NFL QB by any measure,but I dont hate him. Why would I ? Its not his fault he is below average. If theres any hatred around here its you towards Marshall. (2) Now,if you stated that Marshall was an under-achiever last year because his QB was a first time starter - then your arguement would have at least a little merit. But no, you said Marshall is a fraud.Simply untrue. (3) Read it pal .
I can't believe you Shula as your avatar and don't give the coaching any responsibility for what the Offense delivered
Can we wait until he has a good QB throwing to him befor we determine his ability with the Dolphins. On second thought say what you want, you dont have to wait. I will .
