It's mock draft and off season time, and I know many of us have opinions on what needs to be changed to make our team successful. I thought it would be interesting to look at what an outsider believes our needs are and to see how everyone feels about them. I would also like to see how people on this board believe that these needs should be addressed. Walterfootball always seems to do a decent job at this so I grabbed what they thought we need to do. http://www.walterfootball.com/offseason2011mia.php
If we cant trade down one of my approaches would go: (Trade Carey and a 2012 3rd for a 2011 2nd) Round 1. RT- Nate Solder. Round 2. WR- Titus Young or Jerrel Jernigan Round 3. RB- Jacquizz Rodgers (I love this kid's ability in space, which is hopefully what our offense will be creating) Round 4. WR- Greg Little (too much potential to not take no matter how many receivers we have) Round 5. OLB/pass rush specialist- Chris Carter Round 6. HBack- Charles Clay FA: Mankins, Ahmad Bradshaw (or DeAngelo), Ronnie, Owen Daniels
Off Season Ideas for Dolphins: Mine includes trades: First trade #15 to New Orleans for their #24 & 56- New Orleans selects Ingram Second-Trade again with Atlanta for their #27 & #123-Atlanta selects Kyle Rudolph. R1---#27-Gabe Carimi-ORT-Wisconsin R2---#56-Kendall Hunter-RB-Oklahoma State R3---#79-Greg McElroy-QB-Alabama R4a-#110-John Moffitt-OG/OC-Wisconsin R4b-#123-Jerrell Jernigan-WR-Troy R5--#143-Evan Royster-RB-Penn State R6--#174-Schuylar Oordt-TE-Northern Iowa R7A-#206-Quentin Davie-OLB-3/4-NorthWestern R7B-#207-Alex Wujciak-ILB-Maryland Comp Pick-# ??-Derrell Johnson-Koulianos-(Character Concerns-High risk-High Reward) Trade Carey, and Phillip Merling. Let Moffit and Richie Incognito compete for Center and LG. Be inclined for Incognito at Center and Moffit at LG. Resign Ronnie Brown for (2) years if price is rights. Do not resign Rickie.
I like both of these drafts, I think that we could supplement these with a free agency where we sign, a Left Guard, a Running Back, and a Tight End in Free Agency. My dream way that we would do this is: Left Guard Logan Mankins or Carl Nicks Tight End Zach Miller Running Back DeAngelo Williams A more realistic look would be Left Guard David Baas (He's been a solid player in San Francisco the last few years, and he's passable at Center if we need.) Tight End Owen Daniels (I think that he's going to take a hit in his stock because of the ACL injury, but he's good enough to take a chance on.) Running Back Mike Tolbert or Michael Bush (Neither has much big play ability, but they can be an every down back to supplement the rookie speed guy.) I would also like to see us sign a returner like Eric Weems or Leon Washington
Off Season Ideas Dolphins I would love to pick up a few pieces in the free agency. But the way it is shaping up we can not plan on a FA period until a CBA is signed. Therefore my draft reflected that. If we could get Mankins or Nicks and Zach Miller, and Michael Bush, wow, that would be awesome. That would have a huge bearing on the rest of our needs. Probably drop John Moffitt, Royster, and Oordt and then add Vincent Brown -WR, Rob Hoysler-TE Greg Little-WR (He is awesome)
I like the way that you had us acquire picks and if we could actually do that it would be huge for us. I would love to end up with Carimi, Hunter, Moffit and Jernigan, but I don't see Jernigan dropping into round 4. I think I would be actually break my television if in round 3 we picked McElroy over Jernigan, at the risk of not getting him. Outside of that though I think that this would be a successful draft for us.
I agree. I dont see any reason why we cant come away with a decent LG, quality #1 back, and a playmaking TE like Miller or Daniels after we shed some cap room. One thing some people tend to forget is that we CAN afford to go after more big-name playmakers on offense b/c we DONT spend $70-$100 million on a QB. That's how it goes- more on a QB=less on skill players. Less on a QB=more on skill players. Money wise, the Chargers having Philip Rivers for $92 million alone is like us having Marshall, Vincent Jackson, and Henne combined. I'd love to see V Jackson, Marshall, Jernigan, Greg Little, and Owen Daniels on the field together. Jackson, Marshall, and Little would make up a monsterous trio! One of those 3 would be mismatched on probably every down. Henne could throw jump balls all game long. lol.
Do we really need to go RT in the first? There are some studs, but we definitely have more pressing needs. When healthy, Vernon Carey is easily a top 5 RT in the league. Easily. I think in order, these are our needs: PLAYMAKERS WR G RB TE OLB CB I would love to trade down a couple times til either the late first or even out of the first round completely. There aren't too many guys that interest me in the late 1st other than Pouncey and possibly Titus Young or Torrey Smith (depends on how much these guys' stock moves between now and the draft). In the 2nd-4th rounds, there are so many playmakers and needed positions for us. RB- Ryan Williams, Kendall Hunter, DeMarco Murray, Dion Lewis, Noel Devine, Shane Vereen, Delone Carter, Quizz Rodgers WR- Titus Young (possibly), Torrey Smith (possibly), Jonathan Baldwin, Jerrel Jernigan, Ronald Johnson, Austin Pettis, Randall Cobb, Tandon Doss, Greg Little TE- Kyle Rudolph (possibly), Luke Stocker, Lance Kendricks, DJ Williams G- John Moffitt, Rodney Hudson, Steve Schilling I really want us to focus on these 3 rounds. So much talent.
Outside of a playmaking WR, I don't think there's a more pressing need than QB protection. I don't put RB in that category b/c there are plenty of them in FA and in the 3rd-4th round of this draft, where as a top flight RT is pretty much only guaranteed in the 1st round this year. If we're planning on opening up & spread out the offense then we're going to need great protection from both sides, especially if we want to get past teams like the Packers & Matthews in a SB. Carey costs a lot of money, was injured, and IMO is declining in ability. A RT can start off at LG initially, and then move to RT in a year...... or Carey could be traded outright to free up money to use on a guy like Mankins at LG. The line needs solidifying, so if it's between a RB, Ingram, (who has been injured and has an easier chance of being injured in the NFL) or a likely Perennial Pro-Bowl RT, Solder (who will see twice as many snaps as Ingram), then I'd prefer the RT, especially since we have an owner who is willing to open his checkbook to grab a top RB in FA. If we're tying to open it up more, then elite QB protection trumps an emphasis on a running game IMO..... and I don't think I'd call DeMarco Murray or Jaquizz Rodgers a slouch in the playmaking department.
Not really. When our line was healthy last season, they looked great in pass protection. I think the only need on our OL is LG at this point. Carey is worth his money when he is healthy. Before this season, he hasn't missed a start since 2005 either. In the late first, give me Pouncey or Mark Ingram or a playmaking WR and I will be happy. I am leaning more towards Pouncey now, but Ingram has all the potential in the world to become a great starting RB in the NFL. If we pass up on Pouncey and go with a RB or WR, I won't be mad, because there are still a few guards that will be available later in the draft that I could see as potential starters. What is the point in moving more linemen around? Good offensive lines stick together for years. Right now, like I said, I only see 1 need on the OL, and that is LG. That's it. If we trade Carey, then that opens up another hole and more movement on that line. We then may have 3 completely new starters next season, rather than 1 or maybe 2 on the line. (LG, C, and RT) I never said that Murray or Rodgers were a slouch...? In fact, I have Murray as my number 4 rated RB in the draft and Rodgers as the guy I want in the 4th round if we don't go TE or Noel Devine.
Well my signature has been bearing my draft plan for the past couple of weeks... I just tweaked it this morning from Jake Locker in the first to Cam Newton. With respect to Locker, mobility aside, the accuracy just worries me too much. When I think about it, what is a better quarterback? One with a strong arm and very little accuracy or one with a weak arm and great accuracy? Rex Grossman/JaMarcus Russell and Chad Pennington/Ryan Fitzpatrick, respectively come to mind. Now, none of these guys have won anything so it's not a perfect example, but I'd take Penny/Fitz over the other two any day of the week. Anyway, back to the draft, my signature reflects staying pat. As of now, that's the most accurate thing I feel I can do. There are millions of possibilities of trades that could transpire, so it's impossible to tell, really... In my Kaepernick thread, I floated the idea of swapping our 15 for Seattle's 25 and 57, in which case Seattle selects Jake Locker and our draft/offseason could look something like this: 1 (25) - Jonathan Baldwin, WR - Pitt (6-5, 225, 4.5 40yd) 2 (57) - Colin Kaepernick, QB - Nevada 3 (79) - DeAndre McDaniel, FS - Clemson 4 (110) - Orlando Franklin, OG - Miami 5 (143) - Dion Lewis, RB - Pitt 6 (174) - Virgil Green, TE - Nevada 7 (207) - Jah Reid, OT - UCF 7 (208) - Quinton Pointer, CB - UNLV Baldwin across from Marshall would REALLY open up our offense. We know what we have with Marshall, but Baldwin is a guy who can get deep and make those Calvin Johnson-like jump ball catches. He had a relatively down year last year due to ineffective quarterback play amongst other things, but he is top-15 talent that will slip. The reasoning for Kaepernick can all be found here. With that, I like the idea of reuniting him with his Nevada tight end, Virgil Green. He's not Rudolph, but he would complement Fasano as our catching tight end and along with Baldwin, Marshall, Hartline and Bess, make us the most dangerous passing team in the league (you hear that, Brady!?) Hopefully, McDaniel could step into the starting free safety spot. Franklin would compete to start at the guard position. Lewis would be our back up running back. Like Baldwin, had a down year on Pitt's anemic offense, but showed Ray Rice/MJD potential in his Freshman year, en route to rushing for 1700 yds and garnering Heisman consideration. Reid would provide depth behind Carey and be a developmental project. Pointer is a speedy corner that could, perhaps, compete with Sapp to be our nickel. Now with this scenario, many of our needs are filled, allowing us to resign our players--namely Incognito and Soliai. We would let Ronnie and Ricky both walk and sign DeAngelo Williams. Our runners would then be Williams, Lewis, Hilliard and Cobbs. The beauty of this plan, in my opinion, is being able to solve most of our problems from the draft as opposed to free agency.
Got to recoup that 2nd round pick by moving current players not trading down.. if so, I'll go... 1st..Mark Ingram 2nd.. Titus Young 3rd..Hendricks/Dj Williams 4th ..John Moffit 5th.. Tyrod Taylor Just playin here but daddy like..
Hmm, I see more small ball moves being needed: -ST stud, we need to cover kicks better -CFL returner like Owens or Taylor Oline: -Sort through options on the roster, could be they like Murtha and think Garner will make it back 100%, that solves a RT potential problem along with LG problem -Sign Incognition, put him at Center -Berger moves back to swing G/backup Center Defense: -take a sniff at Phil Hunt -Identify later rd passrushing prospects -Resign Paul Soliai -Identify a ILB in FA, maybe someone like Barret Ruud whom the Bucs will not resign Offense: -add at least one running back for the practice squad -sort through Te's on roster and make some decisions -ditto with the Wr's QB-Not touching that one.
Not in the traditional sense.. Imo, Tyrod taylor could be a great football player..I just hope he gets it, and embraces it..I want him on my team..I think he's one of the most talented players in this draft.
Can you imagine the months of Pat White comparisons? That's a nightmare in itself, but I could definitely get behind that. He's a bigger framed guy than White, maybe he could be a Hines Ward type prospect? After watching the Shrine Bowl I just don't want to see him throw passes for us.
The kid is just as, if not more electric and explosive in the open field as anyone in this draft... I understand the comparisons, so if this regime wants to get it right this time, they will listen to me {lol} and make him the ultimate X, which is something we desperately need..
1.Quarterback: Am I The Only One Who Really Likes Greg McElroy or Ponder in the Later Rounds if we were to Draft a QB then?? Earlier Quarterbacks Dalton/Mallet 2.Anyone Wanna Put A Trade Out There For Reggie Bush if we Can Get D.Williams. Other Than Him Id Like Dion Lewis, Kendall Hunter or Mikel Leshoure, Pretty Much Any Fresh Legged RB 3.Ehh I Heard Champ Bailey Wanted To Make A Switch To FS This Year, All the Other FA SUCK, Work W/ Amaya And Jones And Maybe We Can Switch Clemons To Strong Safety *If He Gets Bigger* 4.I Agree 5.I Agree Also But Keep Incognito 6.Fasted WR Available! 7.I Agree Hopefully Nolan Carroll Can Step Into Nathan Jones Former Role 8.I think Were Giving Up On Koa Misi Too Quickly Look At Jason Babin. 9.I Agree, Hopefully Draft A Few Linemen Sign Some FA
1. Christian Ponder, yes. Greg McElroy, no. It may be my bias, but I just don't see him as a great NFL QB I think he'll be a solid back up though. Outside of that I think that our best shot right now is too stick with Henne as starter and not pick a QB early (especially with next years QB class if he fails). 2. Reggie Bush would be awesome, but I doubt that's a possibility, I think the 3rd round is our best bet there's some depth this year. I also really really like Mark Ingram, but I know it's a faux pas to pick a RB in the 1st. 3. Yeah I think that Clemons is solid enough there and will look even better next year after the experience he got this year. I think Reshad Jones could eventually be that playmaker in the secondary we're looking for at Strong Safety. 4. Yep 5. And move him to Center 6. Young or Jernigan let's make this happen 7. I think he will, as long as we don't kill him returning kickoffs 8. I don't think we're giving up on him, I think he's the starter next year, but I would like to see improved depth. Maybe a 3rd down specialist to help out Wake. 9. We need it badly, back to back years we've seemingly run out of guys.
