Watch the game or have sex with my wife.........it's like deciding if you want death by electrocution or by hanging.
No, we are all rooting for NE, Cromartie is a douche bag, the same douche bag that could not even name all what nine of his kids? The Jets players are like most of their fans, A HOLES. Sorry Bam, not you. I hope NE beats them 70-0
Not me...I'm looking at the overall picture. I don't want to see either in the Super Bowl. I think the Ravens/Steelers have a better chance against the Jests so I want the Jests to beat the Patsies
What? I just asked why he felt that Balt and Pit were sure wins and pointed out that the Jets have played both teams and lost one by a point and beat the other. That's all. Can I ask a question? Do you ever talk football or do you only speak fan?
And we played all 4 teams this season, it was a tough season. Well for me, I am indifferent tbh, I could almost wish the Jets well if it weren't for Jason Taylor. Besides, there is the Sanchez in cold weather factor to consider, that has not went away, with Smith having a bum hammy their goes their Wildcat and ST X factor.
True, still doesn't make what I wrote false. Also, that "difference" you're talking about is 0.6 PPG. 22.9 PPG for the Jets and 22.3 PPG for the Ravens.
I find this comical coming from Mr. Stats Don't Lie. You don't have a leg to stand on. After 16 games of football, the Jets have a better offense as determined by PPG (as opposed to yards, which is even more in the Jets favor). So we are clear, you stated the Ravens offense was better. I said I disagree. You then posted an opinion about which players/units you thought were better on the Ravens. I then posted the actual stat that shows the Jets have a better offense. /argument
Sure you can...if I can ask one too. If the Jets do win the superbowl, will the "respectful Jets fan" disappear and the guy who used to show up at the bowling alley after Jet victories return?
I will be a Patriots fan for the next few days so that I can talk football with Bam. The way I see it the Jets have two opions on D. #1) Blitz 80% of the time and hope that Brady makes a mistake or two #2) Do the Manning D, rush three and put eight in coverage. Place Revis on Welker and Cromartie on Branch. Double team the TEs and hope that Brady just does not audible draws to BJGE and Woodhead or throw them short passes. Either way not sure they have the personnel to defeat NE on offense but they can make it more challenging. On offense, they need to run, run, run and play action. However, Wilfork/Mayo are sick run stoppers and NE is getting Spikes back. And if the Jets end up at third and long the Sanchez is prone to mistakes and NE has two pro bowlers in their secondary in McCourty (more INTs than Cromartie and Revis combined) and Merriweather (dirty and big hitter). You can throw to the other CB, who sux, since I cannot recall who he is but they have that other safety Chung who is also a big hitter. Also, LDT is a warm weather player, he did great in the climate controlled stadium of Indi, lets see how he does in Foxboro. Lastly, turnovers will be key but Green Ellis has ZERO fumbles this year and Brady rarely throws pics. Also, Woody is on IR, that line of the Jets will not be the same. NE looks to be the better team on paper, they are rested, they are home and thanks to the Jets trash talking they are motivated. Jets win on a miracle only.
i will root for the jets here if thats the right phrase. i really dont care who wins since i will take joy in who loses. but my thinking is if the jets play the ravens (who i think beats steelers) they will lose. patriots have a better shot of beating the ravens so i would prefer the jets. i dont want either team making the big game having said all that the patriots probably win.
Stats don't lie. The PPG average shows that the Jets score about 6/10th of a point more than the Ravens. You hyped their season PPG ranking as actually meaning something when in all reality they're pretty much even in that catagory. However, and given that the PPG average is so close, we need to look at further STATS. I haven't looked up each individual players stats on both teams, but IMO, and as I wrote before: QB- Flacco over Sanchez RB- Rice over LT/Greene OL- EVEN WR- Boldin/Mason > Edwards/Holmes Do you agree or disagree with any of that?
According to Scouts, Inc. -Patriots: 10 observations By Matt Williamson Scouts Inc. New York at After breaking down film of both teams, Scouts Inc. offers 10 things to watch in this week's Jets-Patriots matchup. 1. Prepare for Goliath: The Patriots ended the season with an eight-game winning streak and were undefeated at home. The Patriots also scored a whopping 205 more points than they allowed in 2010 -- by far the best mark in the league. They are 6-1 against 2010 playoff teams. New York has lost only two games on the road this season. The Jets beat New England in Week 2, but in the most recent meeting (Week 13), the Pats utterly dominated play, eventually winning 45-3. In both games, the losing team turned the ball over three times and the winning team did not have a turnover. The Patriots were best in the NFL at valuing the ball, committing only 10 turnovers. And only the Giants had more takeaways than New England. The Jets get the edge here on special teams, but that advantage is marginal. 2. Defend the entire field: New England is fantastic at dictating matchups through formation and personnel. And the Pats throw a wide variety of personnel groupings at a defense. They are also tremendous at attacking horizontally with a precision passing attack that Tom Brady orchestrates with surgeonlike skill. The Jets' defense allowed just 6.5 yards per passing attempt this season and held Peyton Manning to 225 yards through the air last week, but this test will be much more difficult. 3. Disrupt throwing lanes: Although the Patriots will attack the entire field, they focus on the short and intermediate middle of the field. A problem with targeting that area is that defensive linemen can be very disruptive of throwing lanes and can deflect passes easier. Getting to Brady is difficult, but the Jets' defensive front must be very consistent in getting its hands up and being mindful of disturbing lanes. 4. Get Sanchez comfortable: Mark Sanchez misses too many throws, and up until the final drive last week, he played a very poor game versus Indianapolis. New England's pass defense has greatly improved since the beginning of the season and is much better when it blitzes. Opposing tight ends have done very little versus the Pats, but Dustin Keller is Sanchez's safety blanket and will probably be a featured target. That might favor New England. It would be a mistake to overlook how dangerous Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards can be. But Sanchez could do nothing downfield a week ago. The Patriots do have one of the most promising young cornerbacks in Devin McCourty. 5. Matchup to watch: Jets C Nick Mangold versus Patriots NT Vince Wilfork: The Patriots' line uses Wilfork at both nose tackle and end, but his skill set is that of a nose tackle. And he might be the best 3-4 nose tackle in the league. Mangold is the best center in all of football -- by a wide margin. And he might have been the best player on the field last week for either team. This battle will be instrumental in determining the effectiveness of New York's interior run. The Jets averaged 4.4 yards per carry during the regular season. 6. Stop the run: The Jets rushed for 169 yards last week, but it won't come as easy in New England. LaDainian Tomlinson looked much more explosive and quick than he did toward the end of the regular season. He also is still a very effective receiver out of the backfield and could find favorable matchups against the Patriots' heavier linebackers. New England has not allowed many long runs this season, but it needs to improve against running backs as receiving options. Shonn Greene should receive about half the carries. Greene is more of a pounder but is somewhat of a liability in the passing game. New York has run for 288 yards against the Pats this season. 7. Keep Brady unscathed: Brady is a difficult quarterback to sack, and the Jets do not have one superb pass-rusher at their disposal. New York had only one sack last week. The Patriots' protection is exceptional, and Brady is unbelievable with his ability to maneuver around the pocket to buy time while still focusing his attention downfield. Brady has been incredibly good versus the blitz, and New York chose not to blitz Manning often last week. 8. Stay away from Revis: Darrelle Revis held Reggie Wayne to a single catch for a measly 1 yard last week. The Jets have enough cover men to target, so don't expect the Pats to test Revis. Antonio Cromartie is much better in press man coverage than off coverage. He is a superb talent, but doesn't like to tackle and is susceptible to double moves. As a whole, even though they employ as many as seven defensive backs on the field, the Jets are not really deep with quality cover men. That is a massive problem against New England. 9. Keep 'em honest with the run: The Patriots are an excellent timely running team. They employ two very different runners in <A href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11754">BenJarvus Green-Ellis</B> and Danny Woodhead. New York was among the best run-stopping defenses in the regular season, allowing just 3.6 yards per carry. LB Bart Scott is the Jets' defensive leader. He has played great this season and was exceptional in Indianapolis. But New York was very susceptible to play-action last week. Expect Brady to try to exploit this as Manning did. 10. Matchup to watch: Patriots tight ends versus Jets head coach Rex Ryan: No team in the league uses its tight ends like New England. The Patriots go three deep with Aaron Hernandez, Rob Gronkowski and Alge Crumpler -- and these three players have very different skill sets. How Ryan labels each of these players will be crucial, as will how he accounts for the multitude of sets his team will face. If he labels these TEs wrong -- or even if he labels them correctly -- New England is very capable of changing formations to dictate coverages to Brady's liking based on the variety of skills that its tight ends bring to the table. It is almost an unwinnable situation for a defense. PredictionNew York 17 New England 35
You answered. Thanks. And I have no recollection of talking smack about the Jets back in the early 90's. What was there to talk smack about? Those were some awful Jets teams. So to answer your question, I will be the same guy I have been all season.
Rex already said that he called a much too aggressive defense in the last meeting, so I don't expect to see them blitz that much. However, I don't think they will play the same defense that they did in Indy either. I think he will play a hydrid of the two and pray it works. The NE running game is average at best. If they can't stop them, they need to make sure that they at least make them use a lot of plays and clock, and hopefully hold them to a few FG's instead of all TD's when NE is in the red zone. I agree about the your assessment of the Jets offense, but as long as Sanchez is not constantly in obviously passing downs, I think they will be able to move the ball through the air. I truly believe that much of NE's defensive success comes from the fact that they are up 3 scores early in most of their games. If the Jets can keep it close, I think it will limit NE's aggressiveness on defense. Sanchez did have a good game against them back in September. I am not terribly concerned about Woody. Hunter has played well as his replacement. Oh, please don't reference Revis's lack of interceptions to illustrate a point. By now we know he is one of the best CD's in the game and he is rarely thrown at. Hard to pick off a pass when the guy you are defending gets targeted once per game. I think we will see more Greene than LT...at least I hope so. NE is an 8.5 favorite for a reason. I don't think they are motivated by the "trash talking". This is a playoff game, not two eliminated teams playing a week 16 game for pride. I hope for a good game, win or lose.
Bro...I have to remind you??? Go ask Andy or Joe Breese what bowling would be like that week if the Jets beat either the Dolphins or the Giants. But good to know you'll be the guy you are now.
I see you are looking for an argument Look. If you say you are taller than me and I disagree, and then we measure and I am 1/2 inch taller, you were wrong. Doesn't matter if it was close The Jets scored more points than the Ravens (and I would bet that if you removed ST and defensive points, the disparity is even greater). If you want to look further, you'll see that the Jets have average more yards per game (351 vs 322). Even Miami average more yards per game than Baltimore. The Jets average 148.4 yards per game on the ground to the Raven's 114.4. Is that close? And Baltimore has the edge in passing yards per game 208.4 to 202.6. So I still contend that Baltimore does not have a better offense than the Jets. That brings me to my next point. We are talking about the two teams offenses that play as a unit. Why you want to compare the different sections on the offensive unit is beyond me (well, I think you are trying to save face by changing the argument). There are plenty of examples where a team will have a better QB than another team, but not a better offense. Or better WR's and not a better total offense. Do you agree with that or do I need to point out examples? Anyway, I will indulge your OTHER argument about the different offensive positions (because I love a good debate). QB - Edge Ravens. While I am not a huge Flacco fan, he has better stats than Sanchez...complete more passes and throws more TD's and less INT's. RB - Edge Jets. I like our tandem better. Rice is a good back, don't get me wrong. But as a tandem, Greene/LT rushed for more yards and a better average than Rice/McGahee. OL - Edge Jets. Best center in the game, Brick is a great LT and they play together great as a unit. I think the Jets OL is one of the best in the league. Baltimore has a good OL, but I think the Jets is a better unit. WR - Again, I think Edwards/Holmes/Cotchery/Keller is a better set of receivers than Boldin/Mason/Houshmandzadeh/Heap. Do I think it's close? Yes and probably a matter of opinion. There you have it!
I am not saying McCourty is better, but he is a play maker so if Sanchize decides to get aggressive it could backfire. Do you really not think NE's running game is good. I just saw the stats and Ellis had 1,000 yards and Woodhead has been very good too?
Thank God, because I would have lost all respect for you Average at best might have been a little strong on my part. It is better than average, but it doesn't concern me. The Jets handle the run very well.
Green-Ellis: 1,008 yards rushing, 4.4 YPC, 13 TDs Woodhead: 547 yards rushing, 5.6 YPC, 5 TDs ~ 379 receiveing yards on 34 Rec and 1 TD. LDT: 914 yards rushing, 4.2 YPC, 6 TDs ~ 368 yards receiving on 52 rec Greene: 766 yards rushing, 4.1 YPC, 2 TDs Even at best, but NE seems better?
Vs the Jets on Dec 6th BJGE = 72 yards, 4 YPC, 2 TDs. Woodhead = 104 receiving yards They are better than you and actually I gave them credit for. That tandem is dangerous.
Every time NE hands the ball off, I am happy. What do you want me to say? I am not going into this game thinking, "Man, I am concerned with NE's running game." I'm not. Brady is my concern. Jets: 2374 total rushing yards, 148.4 yards per game, 4.4 average per rush NE: 1973 total rushing yards, 123.3 yards per game, 4.3 average per rush
BJGE in the first Jets game: 10 rushes for 19 yards. 52 Rushing yards as a team. That doesn't mean he stinks, and your one game of stats doesn't mean he is awesome.
Maroney was the starter then not BJGE, that was a vastly different NE team in week 2. If you're down 14, you don't want to see that clock killing run game and I disagree with you. If you cannot stop the run and the safeties have to cheat, it opens up play action for Brady. Brady is not Manning or Favre, he does not mind handing off as the stats illustrate.
Which makes them pretty even as the Jets ran the ball more, resulting in the higher YPG total. But when you add in a couple of important stats: NY: 14 RTDs, 11 Fumbles NE: 19 RTDs, 2 Fumbles. It kinda gives the edge to NE.
BJGE got the most carries out of anyone that game. What do you want me to say, Dude? I give up. NE has an incredible rushing attack and passing game. Yay!
The Jets really don't have a pass rushing specialist, which encourages Rex to send multiple players on a specidic side. I think that's wrong. We blitz 3 or even 4 and put as many people as possible in coverage. I won't be shocked if we see Darrelle Revis play a little bit of safety. Yeah, he's that damn good by the way.
I know, he is the best CB EVER!!!! Best NFL Player EVER...If he played QB, he'd be the best QB EVER.... Problem is, if he plays safety who covers Wes Welker? Your 3rd corner, nickel? Good luck with that. You lost all credibility, when you said he was the best CB ever. Deion Sanders and Nightrain Lane laughed out loud at you.
Well since I won't be here for the game day thread and all the laughing that will be going on , I will post my prediction and say goodbye until next week. After taking everything into account, it all comes down to four things: 1. Brady is an excellent QB. Debate it all you want, but it is what it is. 2. Sanchez hasn't played well in Gillette. His numbers are awful. 3. NE has a tremendous home field advantage. 4. BB is a better and more experienced head coach than Rex Ryan. There is no way in good conscious I can pick the Jets to pull off what would be one of the greatest upsets in playoff history. I just can't. I think the Jets want this badly and will play an excellent game. The result will be a respectable loss. I'll say 28-17, with the score 21-17 in the 4th quarter. I really hope I am wrong, but I just can't go against logic.
