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Who has the best Athleticism and speed to execute the QB position, the best.?

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by djphinfan, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Speed of motion..

    Would like to get your thoughts on our prospects from an athletic perspective {Besides Newton}. We have a good amount of QB's in this draft that have good athleticism to run the QB position with some explosiveness, crispness, the ability to extend plays, and run for yardage.

    Who do you think can execute the position, athletically, the best?, within a heavy motion, and movement offense?.

    Who can extend the plays the best?

    Best feet, mechanics, and ''Athletic QB Functionality'', in ya'lls opinion?

    CK..Dalton..Weeden..Gabbert..Stanzi...Colt Mccoy....speed of motion.

    I've come to the realization that this ''athleticism to execute the position with speed'' I covet, has to be in the QB that I select..
     
  2. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Athleticism in a quarterback has no effect on the quarterback's success in the NFL. It is much more important to look at how they work from the pocket, go through their progressions, read coverages, etc.

    I don't even take athleticism into account when looking at a QB, because it is a meaningless attribute.
     
  3. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    It's a good question but not one that comes with an easy answer. As far as the speed of footwork and execution in the backfield goes, nobody I saw this year had quicker feet on that front than T.J. Yates and Pat Devlin. Maybe Christian Ponder belongs in there.

    The most sluggish feet off the snap surprisingly belong to Cam Newton. Followed by Blaine Gabbert, and then Brandon Weeden, and then Ryan Mallett.

    But quick and lively setup isn't necessarily what you're asking for. You're asking for the feet to execute a variety of offensive concepts. To me, that means west coast, bootlegs, waggles, and zone hand-offs with stretched exchange points. The feet of guys like Yates and Devlin start out fast, but get less impressive every second that the play progresses. Meanwhile, the feet of guys like Newton and Gabbert start off slower and get more impressive every second the play progresses. This is because the best athletes are without a doubt Newton, Gabbert and Ponder. So, if you're looking for guys to execute those bootlegs, or to be able to sprint out to those stretched exchange points, those are your guys.

    Gabbert really improved the speed of his setup in the month running up to the Bowl game. That's the thing about these guys like Newton and Gabbert that kind of start off a little slower and get quicker...the potential to get better. Teach them to be more committed to their footwork and suddenly their feet are lively from beginning to end of the play, and they're better players for it. But Yates and Devlin are never going to be better athletes.

    Weeden is just very middle of the road on both fronts, speed of his setup and the athleticism. He's got valid quarterback athleticism, unlike Henne. He was a professional athlete. As a pitcher, you've got to run, you've got to play defense, and in the minors I've no doubt he had to bat and run the bases. It shows when you get him outside the pocket, he can launch the ball on the run pretty well and has surprising athleticism even though he doesn't use it much. The speed of his setup is not bad like Newton's or like Gabbert's was before the bowl game...but there's room for improvement. There's no reason he couldn't get up to the level of Devlin and Yates on that.

    Mallett has sluggish feet start to finish. His upside on this front is the most limited of all the names we're discussing.
     
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  4. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Got a text today , Auburn has prepared to counter big blitz pressure tonight. Not a revelation perhaps , but they feel Oregon will try this to counter Newton , and Auburn feels Newton will make them pay tonight.

    FWIW , looking forward to a highly entertaining game tonight.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I disagree with that, I believe there is a certain amount of suddenness within your coordination needed, to be able to extend plays within the pocket, to execute all facets of the game with quickness, and escapability athleticism.

    I asked you a while ago if Henne had the overall skillset to play that position at a championship level, you said ''absolutely''..I disagreed then, and I disagree now....remember, iam not asking for a running QB here.
     
  6. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Easy answer Jake Locker
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    he does look the part, and has the suddeness to execute all intricacies that the position demands...not sure if the fit is reasonable at the stage were in..
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The main point I am trying to get across is that from the crop of QB's to target, they have to have that athleticism first and foremost..Its my starting point in evaluation of QB's..Then I hope to find out, out of that crop, the one that has the best instincts and ability to read coverage.
     

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