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Who do you want at OC....

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin D, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    ...that is actually feasible?
     
  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Sorry this isn't really a serious idea, but Urban Meyer? It would probably put people back in seats and make things interesting!

    But seriously, at this point I'm not sure. I had been hoping for Kubiak to end up here, but the Texans are keeping him at least one more. I don't really know of any "names" that are hitting the open market, or of an up and comer who might take the job.

    We may end up looking to the college or UFL ranks when all is said and done.
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Al Saunders, John Ramsdell. I’d also like Josh McDaniels but I suppose he isn’t “feasible” in the strict sense of the word, since Marshall and Nolan would probably mutiny.
     
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  4. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    What about Jim Zorn? He's currently a QB coach with the Ravens. Guy has had some success developing QBs, nothing spectacular, but frankly I don't think we are going to get "spectacular" with what seems to be on the table. I'd still think it may be best to look other than the NFL and pick someone doing good and interesting things at the college/UFL levels.
     
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  5. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Josh McDaniel, former HC of Denver. It's all over but the shouting.
     
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  6. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The desperation move to end all other desperation moves. Might as well dig up Vince Lombardi’s corpse; at least he has a better track record.
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Any of these 3 would be fine.

    Might be ok with Karl Dorrell as well.

    If Brian Schottenheimer were to get let go, I would be ok with him too.
     
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  8. Finfangirl

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    Rob Chudzinski; Ramsdell or Carmichael, Jr.
     
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  9. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    I think that at this point the reasonable choice is David Lee..... if they're stupid enough to keep Sparano, give him an extension and let him extort more power over personnel decisions as well, then Lee makes perfect sense.

    If you're gonna blow it up, then ****ing blow it up.
     
  10. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I don't see how we'd get Carmichael when he's already OC in New Orleans. He'd be my #1 over even McDaniels though.
     
  11. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Eh, not that horrible really. I will say the guy is NOT head coach material in any way shape or form, but he does have some track record with QB development. I would be leery that he doesn't have much full Offensive Coordinating history though. And the guy has been working with Cam Cameron the past year. As ****ty a coach as CC was for us, he is one of the better offensive minds in the league.
     
  12. Finfangirl

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    Carmichael could be named asst head coach with bowles vacating that position.
     
  13. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Charlie Batch? Matt Hasselbeck? That’s IT? Come on. Actually, it’s a stretch to even credit Zorn for Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck was developed in Green Bay by Holmgren before being traded to Seattle.

    Zorn is a disaster. If you want to raid the Ravens staff, hire Al Saunders, who’s currently employed as an “offensive consultant.” I bet he’d jump at the chance to be an OC again.
     
  14. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I'd agree with that.

    The one thing I would be leary of though is getting a guy who may be getting near the top of the head coaching candidate heap. I don't think it would help us long term to have a coaching carousel at OC. Though I'd rather have a short shot of glory in a guy like Carmichael than more of the same with Lee.

    FFG makes an interesting point, maybe we could offer the "assistant" title and OC job as a lure.
     
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  15. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I personally would be surprised if Lee is on the staff next year, let alone as OC.
     
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  16. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Just throwing out names. Batch didn't go on to have a phenomenal career, but started out ok during the first few for a rookie. And Hasselbeck was for years one of the better QBs in the league - hell he even took them to a super bowl. Age and injuries are on him now, and being in Seattle most people just didn't notice him to begin with. And Flacco has continued improving this season. Just saying there could be worse. I would certainly be more on board with other names, but never hurts to bring up more.
     
  17. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Charlie Weis; offensive coordinator for the Chiefs
     
  18. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    He's going to Florida.
     
  19. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Pretty sure it doesn't work like that. I believe that "assistant head coach" is not something the league acknowledges. From my understanding, even position coaches to coordinators are considered lateral movement and would need permission to be interviewed... thus the reason why Bowles needed our permission to interview for the Cowboys.
     
  20. adamprez2003

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    actually he was developed in boston college by wait for it..............dan henning. Hasselbeck says if it wasnt for Henning he never would have made it as an NFL QB

    AL Saunders would be a good choice for OC. Main thing you're going to want is an OC that can develop a dominant running game since its highly unlikely that we're going to get the next Peyton Manning that would allow us to become a pass first offense
     
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  21. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Serious question. With Sparano being lead dog does it really matter? Everything filters down and unless TS has a major overhaul in offensive thinking himself we are going no where!
     
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  22. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    You guys got to start thinking up and coming positional coaches. Can't use existing OC's as they cannot make a lateral move (no matter what assistant tag you give them). So scour WR/OL/TE/RB coaches etc and check into their backgrounds. If they don't go for a re-tread then most likely this is where a hire will come from.
     
  23. vt_dolfan

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    Everyone says its crazy...but the guy I think would be amazing is Chad Pennington. Genious smarts, photographic memory, this guy would never be outcoached
     
  24. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Pennington needs to seriously look at coaching, his shoulder just isn't going to let him play anymore. If he were to coach, he needs to start as something more like Qb Coach before taking over as an OC. Walk before you run.
     
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  25. Southbeach

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    The only one I like, who is available, is McDaniel. I have read that we do have interest BUT, we see how those things are working out this past week. LOL
     
  26. Southbeach

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    I would much prefer Penny over Lee as QB coach, not OC yet.
     
  27. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I want it to be Toddphins.
     
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  28. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    This will be unpopular to say, because I know that a change at OC is needed, but how much of this offensive mess is really Henning's fault? Usually on Friday morning the HC has an offensive meeting with all of his offensive coaches and the OC presents the plan for Sunday's game. This plan is what the HC has instructed the OC to do earlier in the week. Since the OC works under the direction of the HC, and only does what the HC wants - who should really get the axe here?

    Sporano is nothing more than another an inexperienced Parcells robot, (like David Lee and Jeff Ireland) now without Parcells and his "on the job training". When you are the HC and keep agreeing with the offense schemes laid out before you is the OC really to blame? Personally, I would fire both of them. But then again, we have Ross, who was dumb enough to agree with the Parcells arrangement in the first place.

    I think this whole Parcells experiment needs to end.
     
  29. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    How is sparano inexperienced?
     
  30. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I don't think this coaching virgin could overhaul a lawn mower engine.
     
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  31. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    How much HC experience did he have when he came to here? - none. The first two years he did only what tuna told him to do and when he was left alone he lost control of the team. Before he came to Miami he was the O line coach for Dallas.

    This position is waaaay over his head. maybe inexperienced was a bad word to use - inept might be better. We are looking at a guy who calls timeouts seconds before the two minute warning, cheers on FG's and (according to what the veteran players are saying) couldnt find his @ss with both hands.
     
  32. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    he had 4 years

    He has been coaching since 1984 and of those years 4 of them were in Dallas. Of those 4 years, 3 of those were with Parcells.
     
  33. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    Next OC should fulfill this criteria:

    - History of developing QBs.
    I am not thrilled at all with the veteran FA stopgap QBs that might be available. They all seem to be little more Trent Green (way past their prime) than they are Chad Pennington. The best bet at QB for 2011 is finding an OC who can coach up Henne or Thigpen to become the 2011 stopgap while a rookie QB develops. If we can select a rookie at 15 or who can come right away, then great.

    - Rhythm playcaller
    Unfortunately, Henning didn't give a **** about playcalling rhythm. The dolphins need a coordinator who cares about starting the game with a rhythm. Get the skill position players confidence up.

    -Some clout
    If tony's instincts are to be conservative and micro manage, then he'll need a coordinator who can take ownership of the offense and be more aggressive.

    I'm not against a young up and coming QB coach or position coach, but the risk there is an uncertain QB development history and the likelihood that he won't be able to break out of Tony's conservative philosophy.

    Now who is that guy?
     
  34. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    How about:

     
  35. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    This guy has never been 'on the hook' without Parcells over his shoulder and he is clueless.
     
  36. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    If you look at his career, that is not true.

    If you want to make things up, go right ahead.
     
  37. MarinePhinFan

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    Charlie Weis; offensive coordinator for the Florida Gators
     
  38. m ino

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    whoever it is we better damn sure pick a guy we would be happy with to step up as interem hc should things wrong this coming season.tony is on a very short leash and i think one of the reasons he wasn't let go in the last few weeks was we had noone(except nolan) who could step in.everyone wanted henning gone so no go there,david lee had been falling out of good graces(lack of development from not one but 3 qb's needs to be fixed)aswell.and thats on both sides of the ball,other than nolan theres not one guy on that staff that i can say would do a good job as interem..not one.
     
  39. bamadolphin

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    Mcdaniels and Brandon Marshall together again................ dont look for this to happen. Im not saying it wouldnt work. just sayin
     
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