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The Rooney Rule...PC Gone Mad

Discussion in 'SoapBox - Rants forum' started by The_Dark_Knight, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    If you think thats equivalent to past racism you are sadly mistaken. And if abolition had countered the past as you had said then there would have been no need for the civil right movement. So no you are wrong. It doesn't make anyone look like a puppet or a fool, you view it as such because you don't like the rule.
     
  2. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    no place for the race card here
     
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  3. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    I also like the way some are hinting around that there may be "racists" here.
     
  4. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    If it was the main reason or even anywhere close to it then the Rooney's are more stupid than I give them credit for (Passing on both Johnny U and Dan "the man" come to mind). Mike Tomlin is a hell of a good coach and for him, if in fact he did say this, to claim that his skin color ment more than the grey matter between his ears shocks me no end. Maybe he's not the man I thought he was, sad!
     
  5. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Main reason as in got him in the door. Not main reason as in his skin color.
     
  6. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    This is NOT true! I am very pro Obama and support the hell out of him even through tough times. He is doing the best job he can and the Republicans are giving him the hardest path possible in terms of him getting the things he wants done.

    I think the Rooney rule is crap. There's more white coaches, and more black players. That's why you see more white coaches and more black players. Talent is talent. If your talented, you're going to get the job. Don't you think if Dungy decided to come back, he would be just about as coveted as Cowher? I do, and rightfully so. Race is overrated. You're either good or you're not. The good teams are the ones who hire the best guy, regardless of what they look like on the outside. This isn't the 60s.
     
  7. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I believe Dr. Martin Luther King & Adam Smith were great men & neither one a Dolphin fan ...
    there it is
    the end of my philosophical meandering

    this is a Dolphin Forum & I am a Dolfan not a candidate for office


    the vestiges of prejudice are as difficult, inappropriate & intense
    from black to white as white to black
    however, it cannot be over-stated
    the progress we have made as a people in this regard
    since my off-spring are neither Black nor White nor Hispanic but a mix
    I can only hope for a kinder tomorrow
    grow up, get over it, whatever, move on this is 2011 not 1911, we have bigger fish to fry
    speaking of fish:dolphin:
    not to worry a hundred years from now, you'll all look like a bunch of Brazilians
    meanwhile lets go with the Red, White & Blue and the Aqua & Orange
    commonality & cooperation win out every time, just keep drawing that circle a little bigger
     
  8. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There are only 5 black HCs in the NFL. There are 32 teams. You're telling me that only 5 black guys are talented enough to get the job. The rest aren't? Also, in the history of the NFL, there have only been THREE black GMs. Oh sure, its all about merit and the NFL is color blind, my ***!
     
  9. Coral Reefer

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    We know Gardenhead.
    It's still the 1950's in your world.
     
  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    This isnt a black or white thing GH, of course black guys are fit to be great coaches....

    However coaching in the league today is all politics, the same crapheads (Mangini etc) get canned and come back.....good ole boy network...
     
  11. Finsanity

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    Harbaugh is not going to leave 3 mil/yr on the table because he cant wait for the phins to interview a minority coach. That just plain stupid.
     
  12. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's a distinction without much of a difference. The good-ole-boy network IS about black and white. Its like saying the Civil War was about state's rights and not slavery.
     
  13. NaboCane

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    Oh, enough with the Rooney Rule ****, people.

    The RR has NEVER kept ONE team from hiring ONE HC they wanted to hire.

    E.V.E.R.
     
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  14. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    it is what it is
     
  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    makes no sense, so in that view guys like Holmgrem, and Parcells are racist?? Because Mike Singletary didnt benefit from the same good ole boy network to get his job, when he obviously cant coach...

    get out of the 60's bro....most people dont look at black and white the way you do, at least I certainly dont...
     
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  16. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Its not even about being racist really IMO, its about being unconsciously prejudiced
     
  17. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    which is being racist....

    if you say, "I am not even going to hire Perry Fewell because black guys cant coach." is the same as "I am not drafting Cam Newton because black guys cant play the position."

    the fact is those dude arent insiders to the good ole boy network of coaches...samething in politics, you are hooking your campaign backers before outsiders...all these younger cats did work for the older guys....go look at the resumes of the newer coaches...mostly all worked under a big name years ago....
     
  18. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Maybe your not understanding what im saying by unconsciously...

    If it was unconsciously, one wouldnt say "I am not even going to hire Perry Fewell because black guys cant coach." or "I am not drafting Cam Newton because black guys cant play the position."

    What im saying it people would unconsciously pass over minority candidates, meaning they dont even think about race. its natural for them to go straight with the white guy.
     
  19. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    KB?
     
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  20. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    1946 first black NFL player

    1989 first black NFL head coach..

    thats not that long ago folks.
     
  21. GARDENHEAD

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    I agree with this. They hire the guy they know...and they mostly know other white guys.
     
  22. jupiterfin

    jupiterfin Mild Irritant

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    I'm scratching my head.
     
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  23. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    yep....thats is exactly it....people who they have worked with from the beginning...

    now as more and more black, spanish, etc guys have more more opportunities to work and come up through the ranks that has been going on in the past 15 years, and so on....you will start to see more black coaches....

    You or me if we coached and got a gig, would immediately hire our friend to fill a position rather than an outsider...nevermind one of a different color...
     
  24. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Freinds Gardenhead & Nappyroots:
    very reasonable deduction & I agree
    however
    eventually talent tends to win out
    Patriots are are a good example
    two white players that were in inadvertently "overlooked"
    1) Welker's talent @ WR was not totally discovered & exploited until the Patriots found him
    2) Danny Woodhead @ RB
     
  25. bamadolphin

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    Who cares about the Rooney rule. Ross wanted Harbough............ Ross went and got Harbough.
     
  26. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    and the rooney rule helps those minority coaches be more well known...its pretty simple rule.
     
  27. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Friend jupiterfin:
    could it be the "Mild Irritant"?
    give it another read or maybe backtrack to some previous posts to get the flow of the conversation
     
  28. Themole

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    You are correct "Jarhead" $$$GREEN$$$ is the only color these owners are looking for.
     
  29. bamadolphin

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    just interview some black dude on the plane back to miami
     
  30. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I really don't know what more we could do in the NFL to erase the illusion of the 'black barrier'. Gosh, when will enough be enough? Black coaches are now winning superbowls dude. When can we finally throw this crutch away and move on with true sportsmanship.

    I think that regardless of race everyone should be given equal chance. I am all for equal rights, but not so much for special rights. I think the RR was started by a senile old man who was thinking forty years before the decade that he was actually living in.

    Black dudes are 6% of the total US population (it's true - look it up) do they all have to be in the NFL to remove this stupid RR?
     
  31. MarinePhinFan

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    What is it with Dolphins fans having trouble with the "A" and "O" in people's names?

    Sporano
    Harbough

    Sparano
    Harbaugh

    lol
     
  32. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    1950s? Is that when prejudices and racism stopped?

    I wish the rest of us lived in your world!
     
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  33. MarinePhinFan

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    No, but that's when it was pretty much tolerated.

    Today, not so much.
     
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  34. Coral Reefer

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    Exactly, these guys who want to push the racism deal as far as they can ignore all the advancements and all the programs that actually go well beyond the goal of "racial equality". Racism hasn't dissapeared but it's on an eqaul and common ground for all groups at this point and sometimes very much over policed.
     
  35. Coral Reefer

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    Not what I said at all but an expected answer from some.
    That's always the angle taken.
     
  36. GARDENHEAD

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    You are living in a fantasy world.
     
  37. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Your right, its not tolerated as much today, but it does exist. The Rooney rule is in place to not tolerate any of it.

    Hello! You play to win the game!

    Er....I mean hello! That's why the rule is there!
     
  38. Coral Reefer

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    What an ironic statement! :lol:
     
  39. MarinePhinFan

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    Do you really believe that today's racial problems are similar to the 1950's?
     
  40. muscle979

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    No kidding, he'll get a year's salary as a severance package and we're supposed to feel bad for him.
     

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