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Ricky is not retiring | Comments on Team

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CANEPHINS, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, I've actually listened to his show twice today, what struck me was Henne turning the wrong way on a handoff and the difference inbetween the Dolphins and Patriots, and how he used to watch the Chargers and Dolphins play back in the day when the Dolphins were always good, and he said now they are not.

    I've said this before today THAT is not supposed to be happening in yr #3 of what Parcells came here to do, the stuff about the game plan and not liking Sparano's coaching style means jack nothing imho.

    RW pretty much slammed Chad Henne a couple of weeks ago, now Marshall slammed him, sooner or later some people are going to have to accept some facts about #7 and how he is viewed by his teammates.
     
  2. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    And if Ricky was saying things with which you completely agreed, you wouldn't have a shorter memory? Right?
     
  3. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Sadly as time goes by I feel Sparano will be here again and we will be left holding a can of exploding **** while Ricky goes to an AFC east team and runs all over us.
     
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  4. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    I'm not pinning anything onto him he won't readily admit to.
     
  5. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    Why, exactly, does the point about Rob Ninkovich mean jack again?

    Wonder what this says about the Matt Roth situation.
     
  6. uab_phin

    uab_phin New Member

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    Two people that in the past put Dancing and Smoking ahead of their profession.

    We replaced Jason Taylor pretty well I think.
     
  7. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    My opinion of Ricky Williams hasn't changed since when he first quit on this team. And I have pretty much ripped into each coaching staff and regime that insists on bringing this moron back. That whole attitude of bringing a quitter back and telling the whole team that it is okay is part of the reason why they haven't been too successful around these parts. Ricky should have been a former Dolphin A LONG time ago. I will be happy when he leaves, to be honest. I really will. **** him, let him go to the Pats or the Jets or the backwoods somewhere.

    And yes, I know exactly why Ricky quit. The guy is a hypocritical mess who has, on more than one occasion, sold his teammates out for his own personal gain. We are talking abotu a guy who has a bajillion kids by as many women. To say he is repsonsible by any means is a stretch. Both he and Sparano can go. In fact, most of this team wouldn't be safe if I had my druthers.
     
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  8. JDelenne

    JDelenne Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Man I love RW saying it how it is. Everything he said has already been said on the forums we should be glad that he is publicity stating it to everyone else.
    Can't blame him for wanting to leave if he decides that but i'll be pissed if he goes to the Pats.
     
  9. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    Nice spin-doctor...Ricky said the main difference was at QB. but:

    “They had less to play for than we did … and they played harder than any team we played all year, and I just expect that from my team,” Williams said. He added, “I’m not angry at my teammates. I’m angry at the situation. That’s the coaches, myself, teammates, that’s everyone. That’s the whole environment that we have there, and I’m just frustrated that it’s not better.”

    Doesn't sound like the "only" difference between NE and the Dolphins. Heck, Brian Hoyer had a 117 QB rating against Miami...this team wasn't prepared and that isn't on Henne. That falls on the coaching staff.
     
  10. JDelenne

    JDelenne Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Man I love RW saying it how it is. Everything he said has already been said on the forums we should be glad that he is publicity stating it to everyone else.
    Can't blame him for wanting to leave if he decides that but i'll be pissed if he goes to the Pats.
     
  11. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Are you ever not full of yourself or talking down to others?

    I doubt anyone here worships Henne, and I doubt very seriously that people blame our coaching staff as a means of absolving Henne of a poor season.... but if that's all you get from members' posts, then you're just showing us how ignorant you are b/c posters have stated numerous times that we do not like Henning and Sparano b/c we simply do NOT like them, regardless of Henne. However, that's not good enough for you b/c you choose to twist and distort any post you can in order to make yourself feel good.

    Again, another straw argument from you. You should have your very own stat category under your avatar for these straw comments. I'm sure your rep power for that would be pretty high. :wink2:

    Many of us here are realists and don't think about lynching QBs etc until we know for certain that we can land a better option..... or until an entire dismantled offense is at least partially fixed. Not really sure how that qualifies for worshiping someone.
     
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  12. Zod

    Zod Ruler of the Universe

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    .....and that is totally false.
     
  13. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    no he didnt. he talked about preparation for the last new england game only not overall preparation throughout the season. use of player talent? when did he mention that? coaching style? you consider reminding players of the importance of 3rd down conversion, turnovers and red zone scoring a negative?
     
  14. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    Dude, his name is Zod. I just took that as a given. Whether it's real or just an online persona is anyone's guess.
     
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  15. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    I see...your solution is to take the Madden video game approach to the situation. Why do I get the sense you would be complaining about the replacement players needed to fill the roster after the fire-sale you propose?
     
  16. djphinfan

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    Has anyone heard Pennington's endorsement...completely opposite...Iam officially confused...I just want jim harbaugh..
     
  17. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    It's a contrived alter-ego to counter his normal one that no one takes seriously.
     
  18. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Well put yourself in ricky's shoes. He's literally got one year left. He's never won a playoff game. Wouldn't you wanna go where you think you at least have a chance???
     
  19. padre31

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    Not just Ninkovich, he is merely a symptom of the important bit that RW was making, RW does not believe (imho) that the current Dolphins Franchise is built to win yr after yr after yr, that was the point behind the Wanny reference (imho) he was saying with Wanny they used to win every yr, with Sparano, they have not, and it has not become a Culture of Winning in Miami, were players go out and play insanely hard week after week.

    That is far more important than the blather about micromanaging imho, it means Structurally, there is something wrong with the team.

    Imho players have A. gotten to comfortable B. they do not buy what Henne is offering C. Sparano is losing his voice with the players.

    Now those who want Sparano canned will focus on "C", but if the players were motivated that would not be an issue.

    I agree with Sammy on cleaning house, disagree about cleaning out Sparano..but I am neutral towards him wereas before I was solidly in his camp..Coach better examine himself this offseason as he is doing something wrong.

    And for pete's sake, Chad Henne should never start for the Dolphins again..dude should be done in Miami and as Joe Rose said 'he was playing bad enough guys with games like that are in danger of being waived"..ah-men.
     
  20. Coral Reefer

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    No it's not.

    When you read posts that are expressing a different veiw than your "The only issue with this team is Henne" posts you simply choose to see the words "WE LOVE HENNE" rather than the points were actually posting.
     
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  21. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    Yes. I consider it a negative when it is put this way:

    If you don't think that's worrisome, fine. But quit trying to pretend as though he didn't cast a lot of doubt on the effectiveness of Tony as a coach or the atmosphere currently being set by this staff. He did.
     
  22. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Show us one member who has a Henne shrine in his home and I'll give you a cookie........ or a ladder in case you ever want to climb down from your cloud.
     
  23. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Ricky never said it falls on the coaching staff. That's your spin. He blamed evryone coaches and players alike. And its only one gm at the end of the season. He also said all the players respect sparano
     
  24. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    If only we had some authoritative figure in charge of motivating them . . .
     
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  25. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    If sparano goes he might stay.
     
  26. Fin-Omenal

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    Its great to be in the nuetral camp of hating both Henne and Sparano and feeling both need to GTFOH...

    Jump on in the water is warm.
     
  27. padre31

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    Motivation does not work like that frayser, a firey speech or what have you generally means not a damn thing, a player is motivated, or they are not motivated, and it develops internally.

    Put it this way, do you think a speech will make Cam Wake more motivated?
     
  28. AdamC13

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    Ricky DID include the coaching staff, but you left that out and said the ONLY difference between NE and Miami was the QB. And "yes" I do say it falls on the coaching staff to make sure the team is ready to play each and every Sunday...YOU DON'T?

    “You can’t go 7-9 and say everyone loves what we’re doing,” Williams said. “And I think any time you don’t have success and you’re not winning, people are going to be unhappy, and they’re not going to love what they’re doing and they’re not going to buy into it and believe it.”
    Williams said the players are having a hard time believing Sparano’s message after two straight losing seasons, and said he can be too repetitive and nitpicky.


    Sounds like the players respect him as a man...As a coach, NOT SO MUCH!
     
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  29. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    What reason is there to cut Henne?
     
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  30. ToddsPhins

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    Exactly. Total hypocrite--- It's ok for him to have a different view point and say that the coaches aren't the problem, but if we feel the opposite, then we "have" ulterior motives for our beliefs.... that there's no way we can actually say what we mean or mean what we say.

    Everyone make sure they know from here on out: It doesn't matter what you believe or post b/c Zod's the ultimate interpreter who decides what you REALLY mean. :glare:
     
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  31. Pandarilla

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    I'm in a glass case of emotion!
     
  32. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    Honestly, I could not disagree more with this statement.
     
  33. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Ricky just wants to have fun. You don't think belichik stresses the same things? The only difference is brady and that creates the culture of winning which makes nitpicking more bearable
     
  34. Coral Reefer

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    Yes he clearly did throw everyone under the bus and whether you like Ricky or not he brought up all the points were all arguing about.
    The coaching V. QB camp will continue debating whereas Ricky pretty much pointed out that it's all of it and I agree.

    The QB is a problem, the offensive focus is a problem, coaching has clearly been a problem with all the scheme, time management, preparation issues that have become apparent and he touched on our lack of using playmakers enough (himself ) during the year. The only reason there is agrument here is because some want to solely put the entire failure of this team onto one position. To me that's absurd because so many areas of this team underachieved this season.
     
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  35. DolfanJake

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    Now there will be no RW, no Brown, we have no QB, our OLine is a mess. Great, just great.....we will be a real powerhouse again next year ! :tantrum:
     
  36. Fin-Omenal

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    I will be a little clearer......Henne has NO BUISNESS starting for this team next year unless he suddenly develops mental toughness.

    So hell your right he is a servicable #3 QB, let'm stay.
     
  37. NFL2102

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    But would we want him anyway?
     
  38. Coral Reefer

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    What does it matter what Bellichik stresses?
    Coaching does not affect games only players do.
     
  39. Fin-Omenal

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    Why do we fall Jake? So we can learn to pick ourselves up.
     
  40. DolfanJake

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    That is the biggest indictment I have heard in a while. If Ross keeps Sparano its the worst decision he ever made.
     

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