Watching these two guys out there today made me sick to my stomach. I watched them give very little effort...very little fire and very little professionalism. I watched almost every play over and over again(DVR) and I could hardly believe my eyes. When you play afraid to get hurt...afraid to stick a shoulder in...giving less than 100%...its time to move on. Bet they moved a little quicker when it came to cashing thier paychecks. I wonder if they realize that when a future employer even thinks about signing one of these guys....that if these 2 would want the gamefilm of this game to be on thier resume. Don't get me wrong....there were alot of players to choose from today...just that these 2 stuck out clearly to me. Maybe I am just talking out of frustration from such a poor effort....but someone else who saw the game...saw some of the plays over in replay please tell me I am wrong. If we are ever to get to the next level as a football team....guys like these 2 and efforts like these 2 gave should NEVER be tolerated
Nobody played 100% out there today IMO. We should be calling out alot more players than these two, but they seem to be fan favorites to bash lately. This team was not ready to play today, nor did they care to play today at all. I wouldnt put too much into it. I bet theyre both back next year.
Sean Smith..yes...Crowder? I doubt it highly. You are right though...the list of players who mailed it in today would be a very long one
Smith has been are best CB this year. Crowder I can agree with Did you see Davis miss a bunch of tackles??? After the first few games he has not been good at all.
No doubt that Davis fell off alot after a great start. Watching Sean Smith play just sends my blood pressure through the roof. His effort always seems to be somewhere else. Crowder has to be gone. Has to be...
The players were making it clear they wanted Sparano out. So I wasn't really paying attention to any of it.
I just am the opposite. When things are going south...see who steps up and see who mails it in. I saw alot of mailing it in today and for that there should be accountability
I have spent 3 yrs watching Crowder being torched in pass coverage, yr #4 is not of interest, add in a 3.5 millie salary and adios CC...thank you for your time
I am hoping this is a joke. Any player who quits on a field should never be on a field. As for the words Crowder and smart....the canyon of space between those two words would make a blackhole envious.
Neither Smith nor Crowder should be playing in the NFL. They cannot tackle and even the Patriot backup players were running over and through them. Did you see the Patriot players laughing all day on the sidelines? They knew they were playing a very SOFT team that gave up a couple weeks ago. I hope Smith and Crowder will be cut in the off season.
Channing Crowder is gone. I've been telling everyone how much he sucks since I got here. All I heard was how much better he would be next to Dansby. What a joke. He is so average yet people supported this piece of trash the whole way. He has no structure to his game or awareness Crowder is toast just like I've been saying.
AHHHHH.. a convenient thread to get into yet another Crowder Hate session. do me a favor...get your DVR checked. These guys are professionals. They were beaten like the Jets were beaten by the same team 45-3. This thread is stupid and the constant gang mentality to hate on select Dolphin players is idiotic and is the reason why we don;t DESERVE a winner. We deserve to lose FOREVER.
as if Channing Crowder has been covering the TE all these years. It is entirely possible that he has gotten a 1 on 1 TE assignment...maybe 5 times TOTAL int he last 3 years. The 3-4 defense is not designed to have the scrape backer EVER cover anybody, but the occasional fullback or tailback on a 6 man release.
Are you kidding me? Did you feel this way about the Ted Ginn threads that FLOODED this site like no other player in Dolphins history? What about the Jason Allen threads? Saying we dont deserve a winner because we are critical of player that has been very average? Wow? Guess the jokes on me for being suprised.
Sean Smith has been average? Crowder has been average? They played on a unit that was top 5 in the NFL. ***** about the guys that suck on this team, not the ones that are doing their job. Dolphin fans deflect deflect deflect and then pick a guy to hate. Dolphin fans for lack of a better word are....LOSERS. I am an authority on Dolphin fans, I have been sitting next to them and suffering with them for a while now. I remember the "Dan Marino sucks, he has to go" complaints...and that was in 1995.
pfft, Crowder has to go, a tree stump in terms of athleticism is a Feast for Te's, we have seen it for years now. If anyone is making excuses mejo, look into la retrovisor
So the players you like should be off limits to the bickering but the ones YOU hate shouldnt be?? It all makes sense now. I think Smith has had a fine year clouded by dropped INT's even so people are not judging Crowder on just one year, he has been CONSISTANTLY average his entire career here.
Dobbins is not better anything. Crowder's eventual replacement is Misi. Get a another pass rusher to play opposite of Wake. THAT is the way to go. Misi's future is next to Dansby.
I don;t HATE any players on the Fins. I think certain guys SUCK, but I don;t HATE anybody. I am not a LOSER like most Dolphin fans.
Im actually in favor of this. Having LB's with blitzing ability on the inside creates a ton of options for Nolan....problem is its not very easy to find good OLB's as opposed to a good ILB. But if we get a suitable replacement count me in.
Yep..what folks must realize is the Defense is a work in progress, it needs upgrades and more foundational work, that is why Nolan needs a tip o' the cap for his work here with such a group of youngsters and limited Vets. If there is a Ray Willis at #15 do not hesitate to pull the trigger, if there is a premier pass rusher at #15, pull the trigger, if there is a premiere Safety at #15 pull the trigger. Foundation of the D is solid, now we need playmakers
Who has came out and said they "hated" Crowder? Or do you just assume that people who are critical of an average player are "haters"?
you need to buy a coaches manual and look up the part of 5-2 responsibility and the chapter on "pass defense in a 3-4 defense." he is the scape goat around here, that is obvious...but we now have a top 5 unit and the worst offense in team HISTORY...but yeah...it's all the scrape backer's (the 6th most important position in a 3-4 defense) fault... Me...I am gonna be original... all this **** is John Denney's fault. Who do you think is snapping all those balls back for punts and kicks? hmmmmmmm
LOL! ARE YOU KIDDING? for one...Killerphins advocated murder once and got called out by a mod. yeah...murder..as in killing one of our linebackers. yep..no hate. I know "haters" when I see them Fin-O. (wink wink...)
And yet, you point out, and I've said it before, Misi is a ILB and will replace the Stump, hmm, are you arguing for the sake of arguing?
No..I am saying that if you made a list of everything that is wrong with this team...Crowder will be waaaaaaay down on that list, yet "fans" harp on him as if he is responsible for this crap.
Crowder had a ****ty game, but a ****ty game based on his own merits. He can't cover athletic tight ends very well, and he's too slow to make tackles far outside of the hashmarks. If it's a lack of effort, it's been something somehow tolerated by multiple coaches. Sean Smith flat ****ing gave up, and while he's been very good as of late, it's clear he's a bit of a problem child.
Wrong answer..... I never said that.... Please link the post and show me where a mod tagged me for that. You are making stuff up man.
In this 3-4 the ILB's are responsible for covering the TE on their side of the field. Don't need a manual for that bro.....
