Thats because there WAS no logic. Go back and watch the replay again. Even if Brown gets out of bounds it would have been at the 28 yard line. THATS EXACTLY THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE TO BEGIN WITH. The ONLY thing that play would have done is waste valuable seconds. Throw the ball deep sideline,or even a hail mary for that matter,would have made much more sense.
Henne is not good enough to overcome deficiencies in the running game, the offensive line, the tight ends or the wide receivers. Most qb's aren't.
You're a club member, I don't care how hyperbolic the original post was, you know better than to reply to a post like this.
I'm not sure if you played football, but when your there are plays designed for yard range and obviously Henning had a play he wanted to call if he got 4-5 more yards further up field.
It only got back to the LOS because Marshall DIDNT Block. If he did, Brown gets 5-8 yards and puts us around the 20 yard line. I see football logic is not alive on this forum
I just went back and watch the DVR. The play was dead from the start because Robert Horry didn't block. He ran straight at the DB and gave an EARLY, half-hearted effort.
And we were still running the ball pretty well last season yet Henne still faded down the stretch. He was still losing games at the end that Chad Pennington won. But it was easier to forgive him then because it was his first year starting.
Exactly, we have seen this movie for two yrs, we already know how it ends. I'd like for someone to explain what improvement, in any phase of playing Qb, Henne has made as a Qb? He is still the same Qb he was in 09 THAT is what bothers me about Henne..he is the same Qb making the same mistakes, that he did in 09.
? I don't understand this. How was he losing games that Pennington won? Penny spotted us an 0-3 record last year.
lol saying Henne lost us the Titans and Texans and Pitt Game. Titans makes sense because of the INT but the defense in all those games were atrocious. Now its the other way around. Maybe year 3 with Henne leads to a fusion of success.
I guess you wouldn't understand if Penny's Dolphins career in your mind is limited to three games in 2009. He played a whole season before that and did really well. His body was breaking down in 2009 as we saw when he had a season ending injury on a routine knock down.
With 19 seconds left and NO timeouts what good is 5-8 yards. Oh,I get it ,the play was designed to get us in touchdown range.
Thanks for telling me what I think. I'm well aware Pennington gave us the best QBing season we've had since like 1995. It still does not explain your post about winning games in 2009 (rather Henne losing games Penny won) when he did no such thing and didn't show signs that he was performing any better than Henne in his limited action that year. You can keep being a dick to me for questioning your thinking though. Why don't you tell me what else is my opinion, since your so good at knowing what I do and don't understand.
I did....I dont care what he had in mind, it wasnt a smart call....5 more yards is not gonna matter for that part of the field...
And he will be that way in 2011 2012 His ticket for the Boneyard express will be waiting for him here, or where ever he goes. Good backup QB and IMO, it ends right there.
Well, I could see him having a good career but I suspect his time in Miami is on the clock so to speak.
Oh please give me a break. I specified that I was talking about late season performances. You instantly honed in on the first three games of 09. Hence the comment. Now you want to get all indignant about it. It had nothing to do with what I was talking about. You would like your QB to be at or near his best when things come down to the wire. Yes Penny struggled out the gates in 09. I'm not trying to insult you here. I just genuinely didn't know why you were bringing up Pennington's early season struggles before his injury in 09. The only real point was that it would be nice to see Henne make some progress and step up a little in some of these situations. Not necessarily every time. Two years in a row he has seemed to fade near the end.
Yes it absolutely had to do with what you were talking about. You said Henne was losing games Pennington won which makes no sense because not only did Pennington not win any games in 2009 (you know, the year actually in question), but Pennington didn't even look like the same player from 2008 so you can't just assume they are games Pennington won. I instantly honed in on the 1st 3 games of 2009 because they were the only ****ing games Pennington played that year. And you're damn right I'm going to be indignant when you try and tell me what I ****ing do or don't think. Of course you would like your QB to be his best at the end of the year, but if he puts your team in a ****ing hole to start the year, than it might not even matter how good he ****ing is late because you won't control your own fate.
I was not only referring to games played in 2009. I was actually talking about games in the second halves of the seasons. Now you are telling me what I am thinking. Yes you can get buried in a hole but we happened to have went into all three second halves with a chance to get into the playoffs. Happy ****ing New Year!!! [I can put all kinds of astericks in my posts too!!!]
I don't know if the first three games of 2009 are a good benchmark to judge Pennington by. Yes, he lost in the Colts game, but you know as well as I that the offense did more than humanly possible to win that game. That was as spectacular an offensive performance as any team could ever ask (save for the Colts). Also, Pennington went down in game three with the game tied, and that game was easily winnable. We'll never know due to the injury, but I wouldn't chalk that up to Pennington losing a game (since it was indeed only on ice when Henne threw a pick-six). The Dolphins were even up by a FG with Henne in the game, so why wouldn't that loss be on Henne?
I really wasn't trying to judge him based on those 3 games (however I have nothing else to go on for 2009), but I was trying to understand how losses by Henne in 2009 were games Penny would have won (since he didn't get us any wins, and didn't look like the same player in 2008). As to the SD loss, it's not on Henne because W/L's always are attributed to the starter. I don't credit Henne with the Tennessee win this year. And yes, the Dolphins were up by a FG with Henne in the game because he led them to 10 pts, whereas Penny only got them 3. Who knows, maybe if he played the whole game Henne would have won. I have no clue.
I can't understand all this love for Penny he won with an easy schedule and Fins were humiliated in the playoffs. 4 picks against the Ravens and at the start of 2009 against good Ds he was 0-4 and injured. If Penny didn't fall in our hands we would have had a better view of Henne over 3 seasons two of them with a running game. Look at Sanchez at the beginning of the season they were talking MVP, LT running for 5.8 yards on avg. Now running for 3.3 and Sanchez was almost benched.
I watched the show. Listen to what the host has to say. He was wrong about a few things that went on this season with the Dolphins. Did you pick up on that? If not then you really didn't listen to him and instead just went along with his bashing of Henne. BTW, the 2 WR's were open....AFTER Henne threw the ball to Ronnie the DB's moved towards him and that side of the field. The WR's weren't open when Henne threw the ball.
Well, the most damming aspect of Chad Henne's 2010 season is his performance in the 4th qtr afaik, no starting Qb has a lower QBR, or more int's in the 4th qtr than Henne, toss in we are the gang that cannot shoot straight on 2 minute drills and it is no mystery why the Dolphins are not better than a .500 team this season.
Exactly right, and without googling any stats I would assume his 2nd half rating isnt all that hot either. Part of it is our inability to adjust at halftime the other part is Henne himself.
No, we adjust just fine, the problem is Henne throws int's in the money Qtr, instead of stepping up, he shrivels.
Not sure about INT's, but Sanchez actually has a lower QBR in the 4th quarter (though not by much). Edit: 4th Qtr INTs - Fitzpatrick (7), Henne (8), E. Manning (8), Palmer (8), Brees (9), Bradford (9) Bradford actually has a worse TD/INT ratio than Henne in the 4th QTR as well (yet a higher rating, go figure), but he's a rookie.
Wouldn't surprise me, Henne has something like 6 int's and 3 Td's either way though more than anything that is the largest cause of our 2010 tailspin..again..same as in 09, though Henne's stats v the Texans last yr may look good, they dominated that entire game.`
Baldinger actually called the INT to Shuler an "overthrow". Shuler stopped his route while Henne expected him to continue across the field. Know way to know who screwed up, but clearly there was a mixup there. I know that Baldingher knows the game very well, so I'm assuming that he dumbed down his explanation for the audience.
Our pass offense is about where it was last year. Our run game has completely fallen off of a cliff. How does that equal Chad Henne is the problem? We're a team that is built to run the ball, eat the clock, and grind games out. Instead, we're relying on our QB to bail us out week in and week out, and then when he (predictably) fails everyone wants to blame him for it. Strange.
