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Merged:Michael Lombardi: Parcells has convinced Ross to keep Sparano

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Desides, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you read that title right. If you read it right.

    On Inside the NFL, Michael Lombardi has said that Bill Parcells has convinced Stephen Ross to retain Sparano as head coach for the 2011 season. Because only Sparano was mentioned, I’m assuming that only Sparano’s job was in jeopardy. Thus Jeff Ireland also remains GM.

    Discuss.
     
  2. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    I'm ok with this decision as long as Henning is done.
     
  3. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    +! and some new other coaches too. Oline coach needs to go and WR coach Dorrell needs to be gone.
     
  4. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    It’s 100% certain that Henning will “retire” at the end of this season.

    The big question is the fate of David Lee. Ideally, we’d get both a new OC (not named David Lee) and a new QB coach (also not named David Lee).
     
  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I'm well off the Sparano bandwagon, but with the labor uncertainty, it can make sense. I wouldn't really consider keeping him if we can get Cowher, but as long as Henning is gone I can live with one final hurrah for Sparano. If Henning also returns ....
     
  6. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I believe David Lee is bye-bye.

    This is great news! This made my night. Thank you again Mr. Parcells.
     
  7. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Gary Kubiak, good offensive coordinator and QB developer, he would be my top choice.
     
  8. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He also said that was the case today and that things could change.

    If true we have a lame duck regime looking for an OC and god knows how many other coaches while having no QB.

    Sounds like a Super Bowl season to me!
     
  9. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    This.
     
  10. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I agree, really most of the offensive coaching staff could be turned over along with special teams. Just have to find the right guy for the job and I think you may have just named that guy off. Look how huge the Nolan signing ended up being, I think the right OC could do the same thing.

    I'm just soooo tired of watching the boring offense we have had for the past 10+ years. Running game and clock management. Wanny did it, Saban did it, Cameron did it, and Sparano/Henning did it.

    ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!
     
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  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Sure, by losing in embarrassing fashion to the Patriots. Possible but not something to be counted on.

    We’ll be looking for at least one and at most two new coaches: a new OC and a new QB coach depending on whether or not David Lee is promoted to OC or outright fired.

    Al Saunders and/or John Ramsdell, come on down.
     
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  12. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Yeah, I like Sparano and if we can get a new OC and QB coach then I think that would be best for our struggling offense.
     
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  13. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    If Henning is gone i dont care if Sparano stays
     
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  14. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Unless we're getting a veteran QB this move makes no sense. They have to be on a playoffs or bust string and Icannot imagine any sane human being betting his future employment on the golden arm of Chad Henne.

    This also means you can stop scouting Gabbert, Newton and Mallett. No time for a 1st round qb for this regime. Maybe Luck won't come out and we can get the #1 pick in2012
     
  15. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Is there a "no thanks" button??
     
  16. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    No, you keep scouting QBs because they’re absolutely going to draft at least one. What this means is Ireland and Sparano think a guy will be in there in free agency and, if Ross would open the pocket book, they can sign him. Carson Palmer on a 4 year deal, perhaps?

    Pennington and Thigpen are free agents. Ireland didn’t want to re-sign Pennington to begin with, and now he definitely won’t. Thigpen has not made a compelling case to stay, and he’ll probably try to pursue a starting job (or the promise of a QB competition) elsewhere.
     
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  17. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What was untrue about what I wrote?

    If you were on a one year deal and your future employment depended on making the playoffs in that one year why would you concern yourself with the future of the franchise? You just need to survive
     
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  18. padre31

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    This!

    For those who clamoured fo Bil Cowher, what sort of offense do people think he ran in Pittsburgh?

    Hint, it was not the Spread.
     
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  19. dolphan197

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    I'm fine with it as long as Henning is long gone.. hoping for Kubiak as OC if he is fired, and I'm pretty confident that we could get Chad Pennington as QB Coach
     
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  20. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Signing Palmer is the kind of move I thought we weren't going to be making anymore. Short term, not building a dynasty.

    I'm not against it but it's a short term move
     
  21. pumpdogs

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    I heard on the nfl channel that kubiak is getting another chance.That shocked me when I heard it.
     
  22. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That would be more of the same. No need. Maybe he can be a coaching assistant, but the full QB coach? I’m off that bandwagon.

    Signing Palmer, keeping Henne, and drafting a QB is basically hitting the reset button and re-implementing the 2008 strategy. It makes perfect sense, especially if the front office thinks Palmer can be a top five QB in the AFC.
     
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  23. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Assuming Palmer is even available.
     
  24. djphinfan

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    I'ts kinda of difficult to see how you can lose to 3 of the worst teams in the NFL, AT HOME with your season on the line, 3 years on the job, and keep your job...

    Chad Henne is toast ya'll..If anyone thinks Sparano is gonna let it ride with that dude, in this kind of evaluation year, i would disagree with you...I wouldn't do it..
     
  25. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    He said he won’t take a pay cut to stay in Cincy, which means that the Bengals offered and he declined.
     
  26. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Thing with Palmer, or even Orton, is they are both youngish Qb's, CP is 31, Orton 28, which would mean 3 yrs of reasonable service from them either way, but I am of the view that you cannot have one of those Qb's and Henne on the roster, which is why imho Henne will be traded and the big "reset" button pushed.
     
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  27. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    There's no reason to trade Henne, and we wouldn't get anything worthwhile anyways. If we traded him (assuming we got Palmer or Orton), we'd have to find a back-up. Why waste the resources on a back up when that could just as easily be Henne.
     
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  28. Rocky Raccoon

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    I know being 1-7 at home is pathetic, but there IS a lot to like about Sparano. First of all, we are one of the most disciplined teams in the league. And you can't discount the passion and sincere love he has for the players. It's crystal clear that the players believe in him and love playing for him. That's something we haven't had in a long time. No reason to give up on him.
     
  29. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Sparano is part of the problem keeping him ensures we keep the problems we have. Hes the head coach and he allowed Henning, Lee, and the Special teams mess to develop.

    If he stays we regress once again.
     
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  30. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    It's called an AR-15
     
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  31. Stringer Bell

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    Because if the owner is naive enough to let any of that happen we're doomed anyways?
     
  32. padre31

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    Because we then would have to take a Qb early in the draft as well, if you use the #16 on a Qb, and land one of those two Qb's where would Henne fit? How would the young Qb develop?
     
  33. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I find it highly unlikely (even more unlikely than the proposition of trading Henne; which I find significantly unlikely) that we would sign Orton/Palmer and draft a QB at #16.
     
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  34. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    ST moved from #31 to #19-#21 and has stayed there since Bonamego was fired and Rizzi replaced him.

    http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst
     
  35. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think Palmer goes for a #3 pick, and we trade back from #16 and pick up the #2 pick we lost and take a Qb either later in the draft 25-32 or in the second rd, bringing in a veteran Qb can only be seen as an capitulation on Chad Henne.
     
  36. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Ok, now I definitely don't agree at all. We're not sending a top 3 (round) pick out for a QB and drafting a QB in the 1st 3 rounds.
     
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  37. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I'm torn on this. It means that we get to keep a guy that the players apparently love and we maintain some continuity in the front office. On the downside though, Sparano isn't that great of a head coach and it means that we won't have a shot at seeing what Harbaugh can do (if he was ever possibly in the plans to begin with).
     
  38. huck1974

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    Guys, thats fine with me but Nolan will be gone. I started a thread about it a few days ago and got no response. The reality of the situation is Nolan most likely will be a head coach next year. We have no real way of salvaging the defense and reloading the offense. Catch 22 situation.
     
  39. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm torn but only because I don't know how much the offensive mentality falls on him, but I do like him a lot (and know the players do).
     
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  40. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Give Sparano credit, he’s adaptable. Not to the extent of, say, Belichick, but he’s willing to shake things up. Even if the blame for the offense falls on him, we’ll definitely see a new look offense next season.

    The biggest problem is getting a quarterback. As usual.
     
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