Henning: Dolphins lack speed, changes haven't worked

yes, but how many of those yards truly matter? Not as many as DeSean Jackson's yards if his were equivalent. I'll take a guy who has a 1000 yards and scores 7-10 TDs who picks up chunk yards and sets us up for more scores than a guy who is a possession WR who scores a few times/year. At the end of the day, the yards don't mean anything; it's the points that matter, and Hartline does not provide us the best opportunity to score points from the #2 WR position.

 

well maybe the reason the buzzer was used was because came into the league with zero pocket presence. He was horrible at sensing pressure. Or maybe it was because he held on to the ball to long or a combination of the two. If you have someone who is horrible at sensing pressure you craft a ritual for him that will help him compensate for that and allow him to function. I still dont understand Henning hasnt put Henne in a place to succeed. Its used alot around here and it just seems like a bumper sticker saying that signifies nothing. Henning has tried repeatedly to establish a running game in the first half for Henne so he wouldnt have to throw the ball constantly but the offensive line simply lacks the talent to do it effectively. We are ranked 32nd out of 32 teams in offensive line second levvel blocking by football outsiders. Once we get behind, we are forced to throw. Henning has given Henne the option of calling max protect whe he sees blitzes coming since he's still unsure sometimes where they are coming from. You say that he should use more three WR sets. Thats fine but that is subjective. He could use five receiver sets but it doesnt mean it would work. It would simply be failing with different formations because at the end of the day we have a QB who is still learning how to attack cover 2 and is still unsure in what he's seeing and is still making bad line calls and is still losing his accuracy at times. Different Formations and different play calls wouldnt change that one bit because we simply dont have the talent to be anything more than what we are now which is 7-7. And I dont buy that Martz is to blame for Alex Smith. Alex Smith is to blame for Alex Smith. I knew he was going to be a bust when he came into the league and the only one to blame for that is the GM who drafted him and the coach who ok'd that pick. The QB who is ruined bu his coaches is so rare that I doubt there is more than a hadnful over the last thirty years. Lack of talent ruins QBs

 

Or perhaps the better question is, "if" those guys are racking up yds and catches, then why has Henne been terrible at producing TD's in the red zone?

It is not as if the offense makes it to the 20 yd line and the Receivers forget how to play the position....

 

Hes horrible in the redzone because he can't anticipate throws, and the Windows with a short field is much small. It's pretty simple actually

 

yeah well I dont even like Henning that much. I respect him though and just feel he is being made out to be a scapegoat by too many. Much like last year where people believed Ted Ginn was the reason our passing offense suffered. I knew it wouldnt change just because we brought in Marshall. QBs make passing games go, not receivers. I had hoped Henne would develop quicker though. To me the main thing I'm worried about is messing with the system just as we are getting good. We have a championship caliber defense, we are going to concentrate 100% on offense in the offseason so that means an influx of talent and playmakers on the offensive side. We are virtually guaranteed to be in the top half of offenses again no matter who is the offensive coordinator just by virtue of adding three or four new starters. Henne will improve in the offseason though we dont know how much but our running game could go from crap to great depending on how many pieces we add to the offensive line and backfield. Couple that with our defense and it means we should not only be in the playoffs again but unlike 2008 we might actually have a chance to win a game or two.

But instead the fans and media have created an atmosphere where change for the sake of change may take place and that doesnt guarantee success. Do we really want Henne to start learning a brand new system? Its taken him three years and he still hasnt figured out a QB friendly system like ours. Are we going to give him a more complicated system to learn now? Or will we run the same system with a new face and less experience like David Lee? Thats a step backwards to me. I just get the sense that this is a move we are going to regret. Maybe it wont matter. Who knows? I think we will miss Henning when we get into the playoffs though. That guy is brilliant at breaking down film of opposing defenses

I just come from the school of thought that you dont judge coordinators when they have crap to work with, you judge them when you have given them talent and they have failed to make it work. I simply dont see the talent on the offense to justify getting rid of a guy who took a Carolina offense to the Super Bowl and almost pulled off one of the great upsets of all time. I dont see how you get rid of a coordinator who took a 1-15 team to the playoffs the following year using nothing but creativity and smoke and mirrors

 

When I read what your saying it appears to me you are making stuff up in your mind and then assuming it to be true. There aren't any facts to support your logic.

Henne problems have mostly been when he is passing when Miami has the lead.

Henne when Miami has lead: 49 comp, 95 att, 51.6%, 513 yards, 5.4 ypa, 2 TD, 4 int, 13 sacks, 57 QB rating
Henne when Miami is behind: 172 comp, 275 att, 67.5%, 1903 yards, 7.5 ypa, 9 TD, 7 int, 11 sacks, 89.7 QB rating

Clearly Henne is being told to be safe and not make a mistake which, of course, leads to more mistakes. When Miami gets the lead Henning puts Henne in situations to fail. Play-calling gets conservative...more interceptions, more incomplete passes, less yardage, more sacks.

How many times have we heard the opposing defense say they knew what routes were being run ahead of time. Or they knew Miami was going to be conservative and go for the FG because that is what they do? That is clearly on HENNING!

As for the 3 WR sets, that is when Henne has been most effective.

0-1 WR: QB rating is 62.8
2 WR: QB rating is 69.8
3 WR: QB rating is 84.6
4 + WR: QB rating is 78

I would buy into your theory if the numbers supported it, but clearly they don't!

 

Yeah, he is saying something that is pretty obvious but it seems like he'll just blame whoever he possibly can as t why the offense sucks. He can't seem to figure out that he is a terrible coach. Oh well, he'll be gone in not too long thank god.

 

We have 6 rushing TDs this season. 6. We are DEAD LAST in the NFL. We're 31st in YPC. That's why we don't score in the red zone anymore. Henne has missed a couple throws, just like every QB in the league. But to blame him for red zone production is ignoring the facts completely.

 

You need to grow thicker skin Todd. No one mocked you. I strongly disagree that it won't be easy to find a better option at Qb. Unless Henne improves drastically he's easily replaced. You said bring in a Qb but they should bring two. One via the draft and one veteran. Henne needs to know he must improve drastically if he is to win the job again. Just getting him a couple of weapons has already proven for naught. Improvement in HIS game is whats going to set him apart.

I said 15 offensive lineman because the entire interior of the offensive line has been horrible and its where the Dolphins have tried to upgrade for three years now.

 

Brady struggled against the pass rush, not the Zones. Most of the time Miami played Cover 2 with a two deep zone. Basic formations then. Brady also did not start 4 straight seasons in college and pretty much lit up the league in his first two seasons.

 

To say a couple of throws is also ignoring the facts as well. Henning would be blamed the most but he did put the ball in Henne's hands in the redzone quite often.

 

Incognito has improved drastically since game #6, Jerry is a rookie, and Gardner comes back. Not quite as dire as some may think. And what about Polite forgetting how to block? No One on O is without blame.

 

Sad yes and sader that his Qb missed him behind the defense on many occassion. Would love to replace him with Speedy Gonzalez but not sure it would matter too much.

Signed:

Tedd Ginn's family

 

Add in no shotgun, no pump fakes and no fades, and what exactly is left to call down inside the 20 yd line?

Doesn't matter, we rarely make it inside the red zone anyway, which is why the offense needs to be rebuilt it is simply punchless.

 

Incognito has been horrible. Sorry

Like Gardner coming back but Cognito was a turnstile at times and who knows what happened to him with run blocking which is where I see him as a weak link

 

From what I've seen, Ronnie is not the same player. Dancing With The Stars should sign him up.

 

Which has been more successful than running the football.

Henne opp 19 to goal: 24 comp, 43 att, 55.8%, 178 yards, 4.1 pya, 9 TD, 2 int, 0 sacks, 13 1st downs, 86.1 QB rating

Henne has done well in the red zone. I don't know the exact number of balls Henne has thrown away in the red zone, but from watching games it has been quite a few. The "0" sacks reflect this. Of course, comp % and yardage significantly affect QB rating. I do recall one interception being against the Jets on 4th down when was Miami down by 8 with about :30 left and had nothing to lose by throwing into tight coverage in the end zone.

Over half of the pass attempts in the red zone have resulted in a 1st down or a TD.

 

First six games, I agree. I wanted him benched, cut, and was in the "Off With His Head" thinking. He is now the #18 G in PFF's rankings. He was in the 50's before. He has most definitely improved, which is why we are trying to re-sign him.

 

this might make sense if it wasnt for the fact that last year Henne was

when ahead 75.5 QB rating
when tied 73,3 QB rating
When behind 75.6 rating

it seems the more logical answer is Henne is the problem. Either he gets careless when he has a lead this year or he presses too much. Maybe when he's behind the pressure is off him in his mind. I dont know what his psychological makeup is this year but I do know if it was the playcalling the numbers should be consistent year to year. Clearly they aren't

cortland finnegan is one who said that and brandon marshall laughed it off and i forget who the other team was. as for the FGs that is Sparano not Henning. Its obvious that both of them dont feel Henne can be relied upon this year and Sparano is the head coach so his opinion carries more weight then Henning's who is only a coordinator

[/QUOTE] as for three receiver sets, we dont really have the running back for them. generally you want a fast back in the backfield so you can run out of that formation. you dont want to be so identified with passing that defenses trot out the nickel package every time you go into one. if we had arian foster it would make sense to run more three receiver sets but we have ricky and ronnie and ronnie just doesnt have the burst this year. also i would like to see what kind of yards we are getting in three receiver sets. qb rating doesnt necessarily reveal how effective we are. where do you find stats on three receiver formations and such?

 

No way the difference could be when the Dolphins are behind, the opponent simply drops into Zone Defenses and gives up underneath throws that are not going to hurt them but do put up seemingly positive looking stats. When Defenses play their base packages ie, no need for zone, Henne is even worse, as your stats show.

That is a wild assumption at best.

Oh sure, cause Henning is newbie OC...perhaps one should consider we are easy to defend because Henne cannot handle many of the nuances of playing Qb so they keep the game plan as simple as possible, the ball is thrown to either "A" or "B", A if they are more than NCAA open "B" the checkdown option, A rarely sees the ball.

I am in favor of that alignment, especially when we cannot run the ball effectively why wouldn't they trot out 3 Wr base offense?

That to me does indeed fall onto Sparano and Henning I disagree with 3 of your 4 conclusions, save for this one, to not at least try it is simple obstinance.

 

I don't know what the problem is: but I know what the problem is NOT. . . . . Fan support. We have been so patient and so supportive for so long and we all deserve better than what we are seeing on the score board.

 

didnt think it at the time but that gardner injury might have been the worst one we suffered this year

 

If you have a QB with poor pocket presence then you also adjust your system so you don't call play action every other play as that takes time away from the time he has to make his reads. And Henning has abandoned the the running game repeatedly. Even Sparano has said that they need to have greater commitment to the run game. Henning also hasn't adjusted the types of runs when the runs haven't worked. Like everything else, his system is his system and individual talents be damned. And yes, much of it is subjective, but its also obvious. We have plays in our offense that have worked better than others. The obvious adjustment would be to call more of the successful plays and less of the failing ones. The three WR sets have been more successful and the two TE sets have been less successful. We obviously lack talent at the #2 TE. Any basic analysis shows that shows that Henne's QBR out of the three WR set is about 85 and its about 50 in the two TE set. Does he adjust to use the plays where his QB is most successful? Henne overall has much more success with multiple WRs than he does with max protect. So if you wanted to put your QB in position to succeed then you would call less max protect. So yes, its a judgement call, but one decision has been proven to give your QB a better chance of success. There are so many examples that most everybody has come to the same obvious conclusion. I have to think that at this point if you can't see it, its simply b/c you refuse to do so.

 

we abandon the run because we are 31st in yds per rushing attempt. General rule of thumb is when you are in the 30s in some category no matter what you do to fix it, it isnt going to work. if you honestly feel you are seeing run plays we should be running more then you should be coaching because being 31st tells me its talent and not playcalling, especially from a guy who's made his living off of running the ball. I am not opposed to using more three wide receiver sets per se but I would want to analyze more than just QB rating. I agree that we dont have the second TE and our third WR would be an upgrade in onfield talent but its not so simple that if a QB happens to have an 80 QB rating in some stat you automatically go to it. You need to identify all the reasons for that first to make sure it makes sense. As for the max protect, I believe Henne is the one calling them because he wants the protection. Isnt Henne making the line calls. Doesnt he have the ability to let the backs and TEs out into the patterns?

 

When your up by a TD or less, which is usually the case if we are leading, defenses don't go into this zone defense and give up underneath stuff as you stated. So your theory here does not apply at all. There is definitely something to this drop off because as the post referenced showed, Henne was the only QB that had a dramatic drop off in stats, and of the QBs listed their teams were up by 2-3 scores on a regular basis.

The funny thing is the guy who you want, Palmer, has gained 70% of his "stats" when they were down by 2-3 TDs in the second half, and this is exactly when teams go into mini-prevent mode and allow underneath stuff all day. So again you continue to use the same arguments for and against your cause depending on the discussion.

So it's Henne's fault that Henning continues to call plays that defenses can diagnose by the time Henne is under center?? I agree Henne doesn't help the situation at all, but the fact that this is taking place has nothing to do with Henning's experience as an OC. You'd think Henning was a newbie OC because we've yet to see a game plan designed strictly to benefit Henne. As a matter of fact the entire offensive game plan this year has been setup in a way that we will fail. Guess what? Were ranked #31 in TDs and had no realistic chance of making the playoffs. But your right, this has nothing to do with the OC and is simply because of Henne.

 

Changes haven't worked?

What changes??

He hasn't been fired yet.

 

I love when responses are pure verbiage and speculation without anything to support them. I do understand that is all anyone can really do if in support of Henning though.

No way am I saying Henne is the real deal. He shows glimpses and then it is WTF was that Henne? But Henne has been coached to play afraid. Henning and Sparano both said they wanted Henne to take chances, but don't make a mistake. WTF kind of advice is that to give to a developing QB. Henning/Sparano are about 25 years behind when it comes to where offenses are.

I will say Henning is without a doubt a problem calling plays. He has had plenty of opportunity to prove himself and hasn't. He never was that good and he hasn't learned and grown. I heard Nolan's press conference today and he states several times it is the "COACHING and the PLAYERS." He refers to the schemes. Henning throws his players under the bus. What a DOUCHE! Not once has he referred to his play calling as needing improvement.

Opposing defense absolutely love having Henning as the OC:

Right after the Miami Dolphins broke the huddle and got into their offensive formation Cortland Finnegan would look Brandon Marshall right in the eye and tell him the exact route he was running.

Finnegan, Tennessee’s starting cornerback, admitted he wasn’t right all the time, but he guessed he was on the mark about 80 percent of the Dolphins’ offensive snaps.

“You shouldn’t be able to do that, but I’ve watched every single game Miami’s played this year and the formation doesn’t lie. Formations tell a lot,” Finnegan said. “He didn’t like that. Much respect.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...or-dolphins-offense-frustrating-marshall.html

Amazing to me how a DB can flat out say he was right 80% of the time based on "FORMATION" and you have interpreted that as Henne's fault.

I have yet to come across anything saying Henne is responsible for implementing the formation. That honor goes to the Offensive Coordinator.

Really, is there anything to actually SUPPORT that Henning is not a problem? His offenses pretty much max out at ranking around 15th in the league and then take a dump.

 

ah yes the famous cortland finnegan remark. right after we passed for 324 yds on them. that damn henning. if he was more tricky we would have had 700 yds passing. You do realize that Marshall basically laughed at that statement when the reporters quoted finnegan at his press conference? the better, more intelligent quote was provided by Ed Reed IIRC after the Baltimore game when he said they knew that Chad would always make the correct read meaning he would always checkdown and their gameplan was simply to take away the deep game and force chad to dink and dunk, knowing that eventually he would make a mistake. 231 yds and 3 interceptions. that is the proper quote to use to make a case. they dont know the actual routes. they dont need too. they know chad henne and he is too predictable. he will never challenge anyone. he will always settle for the easy safe pass. give him the short stuff and thats all he will throw.

but yeah use finnegan's quote. i mean 324 yds shouldnt cause you to question his honesty. apparently he was the only one who knew. thank god he didnt tell his teammates and fellow defensive backs. then we wouldve been in trouble

 

No, you shouldn't abandon the run especially if you're not passing well either. You need to keep the defense honest with at least the threat of a run. We actually did that (not abandon the run) in the Oakland game. Our YPA in the first quarter was as bad as it had the rest of the season, but that was the game where Sparano had said that he wanted to make sure that we kept our emphasis on the run. The result was one of our better offensive outings and in that game Henne looked good. That's the difference between being set up for success and being set up for failure.

As for needing more analysis on the three WR sets, its more than just one stat. Henne has been better all year when he has more passing options and worse when he has fewer. He was clearly better on third downs than any other down. In fact, through the first half of the season, he was amongst the best in the league. As a rule of thumb, you measure how good your QB is by how well he does on must pass downs. It wasn't just QBR it was all the components. There's so much more, but really it was most obvious when you watch him. I only used the one stat b/c its an easy example for a post on a message board and it is fairly encompassing. Without being in front of film, it is difficult to fully explain the many areas where Henning has failed Henne and the rest of this offense. In short, Henning has adjusted almost nothing to fit the skills of his players. All he does is trot out the same basic system every week and then point at the players and say "lack of execution" when it fails.

And no, I don't believe that Henne has the ability to send out players on routes. We know that Henne doesn't have audible authority. Henne just has the ability to adjust protections. That would allow him to keep players in from routes but not the other way around. That would involve audibles and/or hand signals (to indicate patterns)which I've never seen in a Henning offense and certainly not in Miami this year.

 

Cute response, but the reality is Finnegan was able to shut down Marshall with single coverage and had an interception. When the opposing DB is able to shut down the offense's best player ahead of time because he recognized the "FORMATION" there is NO EXCUSE for the OC. Good try though!

Henne checks down because he has been COACHED to do that. Henning/Sparano stated such in the media, NOT to make mistakes.

The 316 yards was a result of the QB being able to make their reads and take what was given to them, NOT because Henning is a mastermind. I like how you try to give him Henning credit when Miami does well passing, but all QBs fault when they don't.

Hmmm...are you Henning in disguise?

Baltimore shutting down Miami's offense is nothing new. Just take a look at the wild card game when Pennington was in there leading the offense. Henning didn't have answers for attacking the Ravens defense in 2008 and still doesn't have a clue.

I am NOT saying Miami has the most talented offensive team or QB, clearly they don't. But I am NOT in denial about Henning SUCKS as an OC.

 

BTW here is the Ed Reed quote:

"He follows what he's supposed to do on every play and that helps a lot," said Reed, picked off Henne in the fourth-quarter.

Somehow you have twisted Henne following the PREDICTABLE game plan designed by Henning as being Henne's fault. This falls on Henning, NOT Henne.

 

although i agree in theory that you dont abandon the run, its based more on how your defense is doing and what the score and point of the game is. The reason we ran against oakland is we were ahead. the reason we abandon the run is we are behind. now if we are behind in the first qtr, there is no reason to abandon the run but this season has been a tale of two halves for the most part. we usually run a fair amount in the first and in those games where we fall behind we abandon it in the 2nd half and go to the air. it's not entirely due to that but if we are behind you go with what is your more effective weapon. and this year due to the craptitude of our run game, the passing game is actually more effective way of moving the ball. how scary is that? i do think we could have made the offense more friendly for henne but it would have come at the expense of wins. so instead of 7 we might have 5. and considering the flak sparano and henning are getting, sacrificing the season to speed up henne's learning curve was not an option.

can you provide a link for the thrree man sets. i dont doubt the numbers but i cant find those stats anywhere

as for the spread formations. the problem with running them too often is that we dont have the personnel. you generally want smaller faster, quicker linemen and you want speedier running backs. you are advocating using a formation that doesnt play to our personnel. it is interesting that he's having more success in it but without the rest of the team being built for it, you cant run that formation too often.

 

no it falls on henne. what he's saying is that henne is predictable not the plays. a QB is supposed to take shots in this system. henne never does. he should be like jake was in carolina but he's more like jay fiedler

 

324 yds and you're standing by that staement. the fact we passed for that much doesnt sway you. the fact that marshall basically laughed off the suggestion doesnt sway you. hey i got a bridge in brooklyn i would like to sell you

 

Thank you. I swear Pad talks in a circle and seems to not realize it or not care. Palmer's been padding his stats in blowouts all year while throwing back breaking INTs vs. NE, Indy, Pitt, Miami, TB, and leading his team to 9 straight losses. He's 30+ with a huge salary, declining skills and little arm strength. But he'd be a good fit here. OOOOOOOkkk.

 

Where that comes from I don't know. When is a QB supposed to take shots in this system. If that were the case wouldn't they have kept big play receivers that go deep, RAC RBs, etc...

This isn't an excuse for Henne I'm just curious where that comes from, because this is about the most bastardized version of the Coryell offense I've ever seen.

 

Again, you have NOTHING to support that Henning is a good OC...NOTHING!

Show me where "ONE TIME" the defense says Miami kept us off balance by their play-calling. They ran some plays were weren't expecting. We got fooled. Just ONCE! At least 3 games Miami lost this year the defense has come out and said we KNEW what they were going to do. That means Maimi is PREDICTABLE and that falls on HENNING. What is really so hard for you to understand about that? Keep your bridge in brooklyn. I am betting it is Henning that sold it to you in the first place.

What is Marshall supposed to say? He owned me! He knew what I was going to do before I even did it.

What I recall is Marshall started showing his frustration on the field. Chucked the football off the field of play after making a play resulting in a penalty. Sounds like Marshall may have been "laughing it off" to cover up his frustration of the truth that Finnegan was right on the mark!

 

Actually, Finnegan is one of at least four defenders who have publicly criticized some aspect of our offense as predictable. You've also had several media/analysts people make the same claim. I've been watching football knowledgeably for 30+ years and I've never seen that many opponents come out and say that about any team. So people can pretend that Finnegan was full of it and that Reed actually meant something different, but when that many people are saying you're predictable, you probably are. And that doesn't even count what I see with my own eyes, which for most of the season has been incredibly predictable. Now I will admit that Henning has been a bit less predictable since the public criticism started. My guess is that despite his public finger pointing even he realized that he was being predictable.

 

Dolphins also lack a competent offensive coordinator.

 

First of all I don't care whose running the ball how he runs etc when the results speak for themselves. Miami runs the ball best out of 3 WR sets. Doesn't matter if Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, Dan Henning, Tony Sparano, or Anthony Fasano are running the ball. Miami has run the ball best with 3 WRs. A yard is a yard, how does that effect what kinds of yards they're getting? Are they purple yards? Are they yellow? Are they fresh grass or astroturf? It's a much higher average period out of 3 WR sets.

Also Arian Foster? Are you kidding? The guy that ran a 4.69, had poor quickness drills, went undrafted, and doesn't even look fast when you watch him? Also what makes you think a fast RB is the only kind that can succeed out of a 3 WR or spread out look? If anything a power back can run over a nickel or dime CB on the outside. Ben Jarvis Ellis isn't quick, he just takes on undersized defenses that are in coverage formations to stop Tom Brady. Danny Woodhead's quick but I remember just as easily BB was lining up FBs back there a couple years ago to take advantage of dime formations.

As for the Henne comes from behind argument, how about trying to look at the 1-8 points behind instead of the 8 or more approach from 2009. Defenses when far ahead or far behind are very different. Either they're in prevent or they're not attacking the same way. That's usually when a QB pads his stats (cough... Orton... cough). That makes a major difference as far as what kind of defense you're facing.

Ahead by 1-8 40 68 433 58.8 6.37 67 2 2 5.0 75.2 10 7 0.7 12 1
BY LOSING PT DIFF CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
Behind by 1-8 100 165 1152 60.6 6.98 57 6 4 8.0 83.7 3 5 1.7 3 0

That's the line you look for because that's a defense at its best. Ronnie Brown's averages are two YPC higher against teams when Miami is behind. Team defenses changes tremendously based on lead and the toughest situation for a team is right around there when the game is close. When you're behind you're facing the other team's absolute best especially if it's close because you don't see prevent.

I can show you Pennington's lines and how they changed between NY and Miami. I can show you Henne 2009. I can show you Henne 2010, heck I'm even tempted to find Delhomme 2003. There's a massive difference in the route combinations, the approach, and the way Miami operates when barely ahead in a close game. Why do you think it often takes Miami being behind to do anything offensively. Wouldn't that be the toughest time to exploit the other team though the air? But it's not for Miami. When Miami has the lead in every game except Oakland they've gone towards the approach of we'll try to run. Oh well **** we can't. Ok Henne try to move us down the field but don't take a risk since we have the lead. Oh shoot you know what I bet they're still expecting pass on this 3 and 9 let's see what happens. BUT BUT BUT Henne how did you throw a pick on that? It was unexpected! ****ing stupidity.