Just so we're clear, the Jets have won absolutely nothing of significance utilizing this so-called 'blueprint' -- not even a division title. And I would disagree with the sentiment that you can win anything by utilizing that approach without a once-in-every-two-decades type of defense (see: Baltimore Ravens circa 2000), which is just unrealistic to ever bank on.
I understand the problems Henne has been having. My issue is...are those problems solvable? Can a different coach or OC create a system that works better for him. Scott Linehan did wonders with Dante Culpepper, whom many said couldnt read a defense worth a damn....but 4700 Yrds 39 TDS and 11 Ints in 2004....tells me something went right....
Throwing the ball deep and letting Randy Moss in his prime catch the ball over two defenders isn't really a sustainable form of offense.
Although I do agree the scout's assessment of him was spot on I am not convinced that he cant grow out of it. Obviously he is taking longer than we had hoped but I dont see why he can't develop the ability to act (move safeties with his eyes, improve his play action fakes, etc). Maybe he wont be setting the world on fire right away. Maybe he's a guy that takes four or five years to develop. But I dont see any reason yet to feel he has plateaued. He's improved in many areas this year from last. I think Henne's biggest problem was he had a huge amount of flaws to begin with as opposed to Matt Ryan. His learning curve should take longer because he has more to learn
The real problem is outside Ronnie Brown, how many "exciting" playmakers do we have? Marshall maybe, but he is more of a possession receiver. Ricky is older, Bess is a smaller version of a possession receiver. Our first two picks should be play makers!!! Seriously! And not like Ginn!!! LOL
Exactly. I mentioned in another post that Henne must be one of the easiest QB`s to come up with a defensive game plan for in the league.
Which is EXACTLY why he was benched in the middle of the season to begin with. Lets not forget,if Pennington didnt get hurt Henne would already be an after thought,with good reason. This guy has major(and IMO incurable) flaws that are so obvious to others that are unbiased to the Dolphins. Why some fans here refuse to see it is either stubborn or in denial.
Little too much celebration on the opinion that someone on the team sucks. Yes, the homerism has been ******ed but I'm just sayin'.......
I dont really think its celebrating ZOD. Its just frustrating .And,I personally, get NO enjoyment out of bashing any player wearing a Dolphins uniform but it is what it is.
Several opposing defenses have already confirmed this, although a lot of that is not on Henne, but he definitely doesn't help the cause.
Henne's confidence is shot here in Miami thanks to this coaching staff, Just like Drew Brees he will go to another team ultimately in the right system develop and turn into a good QB. Then all you impatient hotheads who bashed him will be *****ing because we let him get away and why are we stuck with a washed up veteran QB or a wasted pick on a #1 that didn't pan out. I sure do love this team but it's fanbase is made up of a bunch of whining crying babies. Grown men who act like schoolgirls. I have never seen a young QB take all the blame for such a out of whack system that lacks identity and doesn't have a god damn clue what it wanted to be all season. I won't even call it an offensive scheme because there is absolutely no structure at all. ALL scouts have told Omar Kelly that Henne has no chance..... That is absurd and a bold face lie.
Because I don't believe there is just this holy grail QB out there waiting for us. It's nice to see things work out for teams like the Falcons and the Rams, but they are the exceptions to the rules. For every success story, there are dozens of failures. If you have fully convinced yourself that Henne is not and can never be "the guy," great. But I think we've been down the road of trying to find "the guy" several times now. I'm more prone to give a guy that I think has at least shown me more than almost every single other guy we've had here since #13 another shot with a functional offense and a coordinator calling plays who happens to have a pulse. Eli Manning won a Super Bowl. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson played each other in a Super Bowl. This notion that we have to keep turning over stones until we find Peyton or Brady is silly to me. Good QBs can get the job done in the right system with the right supporting cast. I think Henne can easily be a good QB. We're missing the other two pieces right now.
Last year with this coaching staff his confidence was high. this year with the same coaching staff his confidence is low
New Flash! Drew Brees was good in San Diego and Chad Henne was NOTHING before he was paid to do job for the people you accuse of tearing him down.
Cut it out. You are making way too much damn sense. It is so much easier for these so-called Dolphin supporters to throw the QB under the bus because he isn't Marino. -Edited by Staff
We made an effort to run the ball last year and it worked. This year we didn't do that. The scheme changed and they gave the guy no support or structure at all. Passing first is not the strength of the offense.
Chad Henne is nowhere near as good as those guys you've mentioned. Henne stares down his checkdowns. That should sum up what type of player he is. There is no 'right' system for a QB like that.
the scheme changed because the talent on the offensive line changed. We can't run. We have proven that all year. Next year we'll fix that regardless of who is the coach or offensive coordinator
Did you happen to watch a Miami game this year? Special teams killed us twice, a ref claimed the victory for Pittsburg, and we dropped at least two pick 6's that would have ended ballgames. Last week Henne was driving down the field until we ended the drive for runs/wildcat since we were in FG position..........that's 6 of our 7 losses. I won't even get into the Henning argument; taking a strong armed QB and trying to make him Penny II is a completely different story. So you really believe that if all the other problems magically fixed themselves and we were 13-1 right now, Henne would still be the only problem? Come on, you can't be that blinded by the media.
He had the best pass blocking since Marino and three of the best receivers since Marino as well. passing first is not the strength of this offense because of Henne.
That's easy to say, but who do you see us spending our draft picks on, and legitimately having a chance to get? Newton and Luck will be long gone by the time we pick. Looking at two of the bottom teams, you have to think between Carolina and Cinci (Assuming all that stuff I hear about Palmer falling out of favor is true) that they'll be off the board early, if not within the first 3 picks. Outside of them, I really don't think anyone is worth trading down for (and even that is a bit of a stretch for me). Especially seeing as we don't have a second round pick. In all likelihood, trading down this year is not an option outside of burning half our draft and/or getting rid of talent. I think for the long term success of the franchise you have to fix a lot of key offensive issues this offseason on the O Line, finding a TE to complement Fasano (who finally, thank god, found his groove), and upgrading the RB position which has not lived up to its pedigree this year. My point I'm trying to make is for everything Chad Henne has done wrong, he's done about as much right. He's the epitome of a .500 QB in my opinion, right now. And as hard as it might be for some people to hear, and accept, there really aren't any clear and present options that are better than him. Sure we might be able to grab a Carson Palmer, or a McNabb to compete with him in the offseason, but we'll likely have to get someone like them in FA who is in decline and has fallen out of favor. That's honestly what I see as a best case scenario. And even then, you'll probably end up eating a lot of cap space to overpay someone who might not necessarily translate into more wins.
Was he on the field? Did he EVER have the ball in his hands? You heard Ronnie Brown yesterday but YOU DO NOT LISTEN. "We have to execute." Somehow in some way that FACT that was repeated over and over this year BY THE PLAYERS ...........somehow it just slipped by all the Henne homers.
Ronnie Brown has class and didn't call out his coach unlike the OC who called out his QB in the media. That shows a ton of class when you are still in the playoff hunt. Henning is an egotistical, stubborn puke who gets the blame. Not only is he a douchebag in the box but also during interviews he is ruining this team. Not only should they fire him but he should be euthanized.
And you're blaming the entire execution of the offense on everyone but the people who the buck stops with. The Coaches. If the entire offense save for Jake Long is not executing, including pro bowl players (Ronnie and Ricky), then it stands to reason it's more than just the players. I don't think anyone is saying that the offensive players are playing perfectly, hell even well for that matter. But the fact of the matter is that the entire offense has been pathetic. The Coaches have either messed up in their assessment of talent on a grand scale, or their gameplan has failed. Bottom line, the Coaches messed up, in one way shape or form, and need to be held accountable, just as the players do when they fail on an individual level.
No it's Henne's fault I saw a wreck on the highway this morning.... Henne was cited. Someone just burned their hand on the oven.... Henne's fault. Piss on the floor in the bathroom... Henne's fault. It's raining today..... Henne's fault. The student is to blame for everything. The teacher is exempt from failure even if his methods of teaching are wrong. I hope some of you are not parents because there will be some fugged up kids running round.
I don't know if it was mostly Parcells, but I recall a lot of discussion about how much the front office liked Derek Anderson after that season. Since it looks like we'll need 2 QB's if Thigpen doesn't re-sign, I wouldn't be totally shocked if they picked Anderson up off the scrap heap and tried to resuscitate his career.
The ironic thing about the Boller to Henne comparison is Brian Billick believed in him so strongly, it cost him his job in Baltimore and he had won a Super Bowl.
You don't listen. Watch this: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...-henning-insists-chad-henne-has-a-future.html Stop reading other opinions and read what the man said: I don't know how Chad Henne will ever recover.
No, read my posts. There is a history of consistency. Nobody gets a pass from me. But that's the key - it's a freaking TEAM.
