belichik runs a erhardt perkins/ ken shipp/ Urban Meyer offense (lol thats a pain to write) like henning he doesnt use that many formations but has alot of variations built into those basic formations. you're right that belichik has a wider array of gameplans that he'll go to. he can go to traditional erhardt perkins type of ball or more urban meyer inspired ball depending on the matchups. but if you're criteria for getting an offensive coordinator the caliber of belichik we will probably spend the next decade searching for one and as to the personnel you just mentioned its the reason they will be bounced come playoff time. Scheme and playcalling never trump talent (well at least 90% of the time. 10% of the time coaching may trump talent)
IMO its the offensive line primarily. After that its Henne having trouble with zone coverage. After that it really doesnt matter because with those two flaws yyou have no chance
I edited while you were replying, it seems. haha I added this to my previous post: Perhaps it's because opponents have a years worth of tape on Henne and are exploiting his weaknesses? I am not sure how much cover 2 he faced in 2009, which is why I am asking.
he faced alot more man in 2009. they adjusted. Same thing is happening to Bradford right now. He started out hot and now teams have figured out how to play him. Welcome to the NFL young guns. Strap in its going to be a bumpy ride lol
The bottom line is, Henning WILL be fired this offseason. The only question is, will Sparano let Henning drag him down too.
As for the Offensive line... we're better this year pass blocking, so since Hennings System relies on a dominant run game, which is our weakness on the offensive line this year. Perhaps we should start looking at Ireland and Sparano for the personnel decisions on that unit?
well i believe that will be priority number one this offseason. They have to get an offensive line that can run block. Cant have our center going backwards on run plays and expect to have our play action offense work. They have been better at pass blocking but we really need two dimensional linemen not guys who can pass block or run block but not both
I'm actually starting to feel bad for Henning supporters. At first I thought it was just blind faith. Now I realize it's something much different.
All you need to know about Dan Henning is, the best QB he's ever had was Chad Pennington. So either he's had UNBELIEVABLY bad luck, I'm talking some of the worst of all-time, or he's just a horrible OC who is a detriment to QB's and offenses in general.
All I know is that week after week I see TD's scored by other teams with a reciever wide open trotting into the endzone because there was some kind of coverage that was blown because the offense confused the defense. Never do I see that with the dolphins. If we get a TD its because we had a reciever or RB make an amazing play to get into the endzone.
Adam...I have to disagree with the bolded 100%. Coaching and schemes trump talent 99% of the time. The actual difference bewteen players in the NFL is very slim. Now, of course, you do see a few greats come along who are able to out perform their peers by a pretty good margin, (Barry Sanders, P. Manning, Jim Brown..etc etc etc) but those types of players are rare. Or else we'd see everybody making the HoF instead of just about 1% of all players. So basically, 99% of all players have around the same talent, work ethic, drive, smarts and I could go on. The difference between the Patriots and the Steelers and the Colts and the Chargers and the other top teams in the NFL is not really the players (although i do think P. Manning is one of those rare guys) but the coaching. BB has 5 Super Bowl rings because of his defensive schemes and way of coaching up average (to the NFL average) talent.
Tom Brady, Ben Rothlisberger, Peyton Manning, and Phillip Rivers....... You come strong with that one.
I'm not sure I understand your post. Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, Phil Simms, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon....All Super Bowl winners. Great talent or great coaching/scheme? The latter, of course. I think Rivers is better than Ben and Manning is better than Brady. Yet Brady and Ben have more SB's than either Manning or Rivers. Again, coaching and scheme. Matt Cassel came in for Brady and won 11 games. Charlie Batch started the first 4 games of the season for the Steelers and they went 3-1. Again, coaching and scheme.
But you did not mention them. You mentioned teams of today. Are you trying to start some kind of shell game? I don't even go to Chinatown much less play a game on a board that was set up for me to fail. Like that's the only achievement? It's the ultimate achievement but the fact of the matter is they take turns defeating the other to get there. Yeah. He's in Kansas City winning too. What's does that tell you about HIS talent and the importance of that position in this game? Excuse me but did you actually see those games? It was four "Jets/Dolphins part deaux". By YOUR measuring stick we just outcoached and outschemed the Jets. Yet anyone that actually watched the game knows that the winner was the team with the better punter and the quarterback who made the least mistakes. Is that your point? Coaching and scheme got us the better punter and a quarterback that threw one less interception?
This particular franchise spent 17 years proving without a shadow of a doubt (whoooo!) that you can make the playoffs with a Quarterback as your only weapon in the NFL. In the same time span this franchise proved that even with one of the best quarterbacks that have ever played the game, you will not win the big one without a running game or a defense. No coach nor scheme took Dan Marino to the playoffs. Dan Marino took the entire team to the playoffs. The NFL then looked at the popularity of it being a quarterback driven league and changed the entire rulebook to make that particular position matter even more. THAT is the point of my post.
I have never seen anyone defend Henning to the degree Zod has. The bottom line is that Henning is very very inconsistent in his play-calling and its the same with the QB, Henne is a very inconsistent QB right now. One of the most annoying and disturbing aspects of this offense and its philosophy is that it calls upon players to EXECUTE almost every play perfectly due to the fact that they have very small chances of making a big play. The offense and Henning gives the offense big play opportunities, but only around 1-4 times per game. This offense is PERFECT for a seasoned vet or someone who can execute almost every play. Thats not Henne right now. He needs multiple multiple chances to make big plays. Don't get it wrong, this offense does have big play opportunities during games, but only in small quantities.
No shell game. When you look at the history of the NFL time and time again average (NFL average) players win championships. Of course great players win themm too, but typically the main ingredient is great coaching/scheme. If you only want to look at the past 5 years of NFL history to make your conclusion, have fun. I didn't think I needed to mention all the NFL average players by name. I wrote "average NFL players". Most people would take that to mean "all average NFL players" and not expect a list of names. Winning a SB isn't the "only" achievement, but it's the ONLY goal. If it isn't, why play or coach? Cassel is in KC playing well. You're right. Then again...he's not starting his first football game since High School (like in New England) either. He has now played in 57 NFL games. However, I'll wait until he has more than 6 good games before I say his "talent" is the main reason the Chiefs are winning. Afterall, the only 2 good teams they have played this season are the Colts, where they lost, and the Chargers where they are 1-1 with the most recent game losing 31-0. You're excused. I did see those games. They looked like typical Steeler football. Kind of like how Tom Brady, in 3 of his last 7 playoff apperances, has thrown 9 total INT's and the Pats went 2-1. Brady can throw 3 INT's in 2 different post season games and still win. Manning can't. Rivers can't. Coaching and scheme.
I know I don't post nearly as often here as I do in the POFO, but for the posts that I have posted here... How many times have I complained about Dan Henning...time and time and time again???? Henning is garbage...straight up garbage. We will never be successful with him as our OC. If there was any way we could lure Mike Martz from Chicago...and if Sparano and Martz could co-exsist. Martz sucked as a head coach, but as an OC...he'd know how to use the talent we have and reincarnate "The Greatest Show on Turf"
If you believe that the Dolphins got to the playoffs only because of Marino, you're delusional. It's true that having a player like Dan on a team will get that team a few more wins (probably) than if you don't have him, but the Dolphins had some decent teams while he was here. The biggest reason the Dolphins never won the big one with Dan was because, and Shula has even addmitted to this, he SCHEMED using mostly Danny's arm and thought he could win it all by himself. Shula schemed and coached wrong while Dan was here. Shula won Super Bowls with average players and great defensive schemes. This again proves my point that coaching/scheme matters more than talent. The NFL changed the rules to favor the entire offense because they found that they could make more money, and become more popular, if there was more scoring. The NFL is an offensive driven league and not just a QB driven league. Look at all the rule changes for hits against WR's.
I wouldn't go so far as to call Henning's career horrid. Or place all the blame for our offensive woes on his shoulders. But he's just not getting it done. I think part of it is his age. I've stated before in a different thread that I don't believe Henning is using things like trend analysis, etc to game plan against defenses. I also don't think he's aware of how predictable his own play calling is. I think the fact that our first couple of offensive series are the best speaks to how poor a job Henning is doing reacting to defenses. He can have a couple of good series figured out before the game, but when the defense starts to adjust, Henning doesn't. The constant play fakes on 3rd and long are just mind numbingly infuriating. And I've never forgiven him for the Ricky Williams half back pass fiasco in Buffalo last year. He's got to be held accountable for at least a good share of the offensive problems. And the fact that he isn't willing to accept any of it is sad. I've said it once, and I'll say it again over and over again. If having Tony Sparano back means having Henning back, I don't care to see Tony Sparano back.
I agree. I don't think Henning is the only reason this team has a poor offense right now, but he's part of the reason and maybe the biggest reason. The predictability of our offense is a problem. Here's the rub though. I don't think our coaching staff thinks being predictable is a problem. Let's face it. A lot of this stems from Bill Parcells's philosophy on offense where you run a few plays but run them well enough that you can tell the defense what is coming and still execute the play. The talent in the NFL is too even across the board for this philosophy to work in the NFL today. Dan Henning seems to think the problem with the offense is 100% on execution. Tony Sparano seems to think that it is 75% execution and 25% not sticking with the running game. Another issue I have is when we decide to actually do something creative. It seems like when we try to get cute with our play calling, it is almost always at the most inopportune times. This dates back to last year when, in the middle of a good drive, we would inexplicably put Pat White in the game only to have him completely wet the bed and stall a drive. Now, we are using the wildcat as a means to slow down our drives.
This. I have a better chance of peeing a diamond kidney stone than watching Henne get a freebie TD pass. Everything we get basically has to be worked for. It shouldn't be this difficult. It's like Henning is purposefully choosing the path of MOST resistance (as well as Sparano and Ireland for that matter).
That's bc he runs a ******ed offense that relies on (requires) 100% perfect execution. That's ridiculous, especially considering our players' relative inexperience level. It doesn't take a genius to realize that inexperienced players=greater difficulty regarding execution. There are other teams who DONT need to rely on 100% perfect execution, yet are putting up points. Wow, imagine that! It's called: having PLAYMAKERS and better PLAYCALLING. However, we pass up on these playmakers who make life on an offense a little easier for EVERYONE!! Why do we do this? It appears b/c our coaches enjoy the challenge of taking the hard route.
