Did Henne just take another baby step in his development?

I don't know about a baby step forward. But Henne the last two weeks has certainly taken a giant step backwards. He continues to show that he is not the answer for the Dolphins at the QB position.

 

Compare? We are two stiffs on a message board. You don't have to explain it. I said that I was pointing to no singular person. I really just scrolled through all this babble and saw those names. I paid no attention to who was saying what about whom. But since you find it so offensive and you brought yourself out as the poster child........

I will now point my finger at your posts mentioning Brady and Manning and I laugh at them.

 

And the Jets should clearly draft another QB high this year too right? There young, let them play.

 

I didnt know he was switching on their Christmas Lights.

 

Tom Brady also had 8 games with 3 TDs or more and a Super Bowl win by that time. I'm sure he earned the right to a clunker with his prior production.

 

I doubt that Brady and Manning are laughing. Unless it's at you and your lack of reading comprehension.

Please though, feel free to point out the thread where someone compared Manning and Brady to Henne. Or just ignore the fact that there isn't one and carry on with the diatribe.

 

Wow....

***Ziiiiing***

^^ That's the sound the "point" makes when it flys over a person's head.

 

This QB, in his 23rd start had the following stat in a game:

45% comp rate, 1 TD, 3 INT's with a 46 QBR

Whoops....I'm comparing again. Well, at least I am to those who can't read. To those who can read, all I'm doing is pointing out that all QB's have bad games.


(Matt Ryan, BTW)

 

Yes, all QB's have bad games. We all get that Marine.

But those QB's you point out also had alot of really good games. With Henne, people are still talking about a Jet game over a year ago.

 

You made your point. It was just "pointed" out that you missed some key facts.

When Brady has a stinker in his 33rd start, he had already played pretty darn good and even won a Superbowl already. So his stinker in #33 is an aberration. When Henne has a stinker in his 33rd start, it's another stinker in a resume that is full of stinkers.

 

And those people who think like that (he's only had one good game) are typically the easiest to debate against because it's provably false.

 

So much this.

 

You contradict yourself. I must not have made my point with everyone. If I had, and if you understood what the point was, then this post of your's would have never been created.

 

If we can draft Cam Newton, we should!! Not that I am biased or anything...he he he

 

Here's more context for you: Henne has only thrown for two TDs without a corresponding INT once. He's never thrown for 3 TDs.

 

Listen you guys, and before this gets out of hand, no one is trying to say that Henne is or ever will be Manning. I've yet to read ONE thread where anyone states that Henne is "great" or "good" or anything else along those lines. The point is not that Henne has had good games or bad games, the point is it takes longer than 25 games, with an offense like ours, to find out what we have for a QB.

 

Here's some context for you.

In Bree's first 25 games he had 25 TD's 28 INT's and only twice had a multiple TD game without an INT. He had 1 three TD game in that time span.

BAM!!

Check

and


Mate

 

Hardly. Brees had a season where he threw more TDs than INTs. Henne has not had a season where he's thrown for more TDs than INTs. SUPERCHECKMATESCRATCHMODEDYOURMOM

 

I think his Oakland game was better, but he still threw a dumb INT.

 

LMAO! You post up "context" then when you are made to look like the buffoon you are, you change the context.

Why? You can't make the rules, have someone beat you at the game you made up using those rules, cry like a little biotch, and then get all pissy like a 12yr old girl.

And did you just write "super check mate scratch moded your mom"? You have to be either 12 or have the IQ of corky from "Life goes on". WTF does that even mean?

 

B/c it's a possession based offense comprised solely of short-intermediate type possession receivers/TEs. Bess is a "short" possession WR. Marshall is a short-intermediate possession WR. Hartline is an intermediate (at most) possession WR. Fasano is a short-intermediate possession TE. Our RBs are slow and non-explosive out of the backfield which is comparable to being a short possession type WR.

It starts with the playbook that revolves around Penny's style of play and hasn't been adjusted...... and as such, players have been brought in to fit that playbook. This team has done nothing to bring in guys who match Henne's strengths IMO.

 

So we can start the developing process all over again. No thanks.

 

Great points.

 

I was mocking you. You missed that. I'll type all my posts to you in comic sans from here on.

 

This isn't really true as Penny wasn't even here when Henning installed the offense originally. Penny didn't show up until the 1st pre-season game.

If you want to say this offense was set up for josh McCown, that would be more accurate, but considering I can't even conceive of such a thing I think the proper reasoning is that this is simply Henning's offense and he assumed any QB can play within it (which is probably true)

 

No, no!!! Don't do that....

You will take away one of his main talking points if you do that!

 

No, you weren't mocking me. What I wrote made perfectly good sense. You wrote "scratch modded your mom".

I love it how you make believe that Bree's 2002 season with 17 TD's and 16 INT's somehow show's he's better than Henne all because of that one extra TD.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!

2003- 11 TD's, 15 INT's

BBwhahahahahahahahah!

 

So Henne can not throw short or intermediate?

Henne has definitely shown his inability to throw the deep ball, so what does that leave us with?

 

Cam is the next Steve Young, the growing pains would be worth it...yeah, thats it.

 

What are these strengths that people keep on talking about?

 

Under throwing receivers that break free deep. Over throwing by a country mile open receivers in the flat. Stuff like that.

 

IMO, we need to draft a QB in round 1 to come in to compete with Henne for the job.

He has not done nearly enough to cement his role as the starter.

 

Okay, okay.... I confess. I'm gigglin' like a little girl reading this stuff.

 

It's a pretty good thread. I wish I wasn't on cold medication all day yesterday so I could have joined in earlier.

 

That's all a facade. Hartline looks "good" b/c of 2 things:
1. He has Marshall & Bess taking coverage from him, so he'd BETTER be picking up yards. He should be catching 80 balls and 800 yards merely by default.
2. There's absolutely NO ONE behind him to rotate in and take some of his snaps or even challenge his position.


Hartline does NOT scare defenses. I'm so tired of people giving Hartline a free pass b/c when you look at his stats, they show some yards. ANY #2 could come in here opposite Marshall, with Bess, and NO ONE behind him and still catch a bunch of passes. Marshall & Bess have created the perfect situation for a #2 to come in and absolutely CLEAN UP. But we don't see that from Hartline. He's an afterthought for defenses. He does not threaten a defense.... and if defenses weren't so worried about Marshall & Bess, Brian wouldn't have the totals you see now.

Hartline is a liability. He's a #4 playing as a #2 b/c we have NO ONE else who can do it, and that's just sad. A #2 on this team should be capable of 1000+ yards and 7-10 TDs with Marshall and Bess on the field. Brian is under production potential.

Hartline is NOT a Boldin, Housh, or Derrick Mason. It's hard to stop these guys b/c 1 of them will inevitably make you pay if you double someone up. You can't say the same thing about our 3. Defenses can still double Marshall or Bess without worrying about Hartline posing a real threat. That's the skinny of it. And that's not even taking into account that Baltimore has a stud TE with 2 studs in waiting (Dickson & Pitta)! They also have studs at RB who can do it ALL.

It boggles my mind how members always default back to Marshall and Bess as a reason for Henne to be good as if TEs, RBs, and depth at WR are insignificant. (And for crying out loud, Hartline is not a "good" WR. He's slightly above average at best who can occasionally beat single coverage, and should NOT be listed as a reason for Henne's need for success. He should be torching the single coverage bestowed upon him! He'd probably be a #5 on the Saints, Colts, Packers, Cowboys, Bengals, Broncos, Chargers, and possibly the Giants.... and a #4 on close to half the league. He is NOT a good #2. However, he'd be a tremendous and extremely valuable #4 who would still put up 360+ yards/season and a few TDs.... at least until he matures into a seasoned veteran).

Here's a few stats:
LeSean McCoy (RB): has 8 more catches than Bess; 10 more than Marshall; and 47 more than Ronnie. Not having a RB is the passing game is not to be overlooked.
The Patriots' TEs: have: 13 more catches than Bess, 15 more than Marshall, 41 more than Fasano; 465 yards more than Fasano, 223 more yards than Marshall; 7 more TDs than Fasano, 9 more TDs than Marshall.

Marshall, Bess, and Hartline do NOT threaten the field and force defenses to defend every inch of it. They're void of that key ingredient that allows us to get out of a 20 yard box at a time. I can't believe people are sick of our offensive performance yet are content with what we have at the #2 WR position as well as our depth. I'm at a loss for words.

 

Hartline looked pretty good during the two games where Marshall was hurt.

 

Since JJ totally dismantled the offense, this years offense is by far the most talented. No other Dolphins team had as good a combination of runningbacks, wide receivers and tightend. Even the line this year is great in comparison to some of the crap fests that have been fielded by the Dolphins.

Right now Miami has poor quarterback play. Henne is not playing up to Freotte or Fiedler level. He is down there with Harrington and AJ Feeley(who had a MUCH worse team to play with)

To make Henne look decent you have to take the entire offense and create an alternate version of them where they all suck and create rules that do not exist for how wide receivers get open

 

Fiedler had injuries and an inability to run. Hell he played 4 games with only one arm.

QB is part of the problem. To try to say Henne isn't part of the problem is creating an alternate reality that does not exist.